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Tag's reason for splitting the page[]

Do not delete! This is supposed to be a central, overview article for Shady Sands, covering its history, evolution and role as the capital of the NCR, with two sister articles (Shady Sands (Fallout) and New California Republic (town)) covering its appearances on games. We really need a policy on that, though. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:08, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Merge[]

Could we merge this with New California Republic (town) or vice versa? they're pretty much the same.

-1337 merc

At the Sheriff's building...[]

At the Sheriff's building the flag is of the United States not the NCR. Can't tell if its pre or post Commonwealths.

Does anyone know where Shady Sands would correspond in real life? Or the closest city next to it?

Brotherhood of Stealing?[]

Little thing. Why is this listed as BoS territory?

Definitive Merge[]

I petition that the following articles be merged: Shady Sands, Shady Sands (Fallout), and New California Republic (town). I propose the following article to take the place of all three: Shady Sands (Town) - pending possible dropping of the "(Town)" if merging is deemed acceptable. Wabango (talk) 01:43, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Can't believe this hasn't been done in over two years. Yeah, this is a no-brainer merge.--DirtyBlue929 (talk) 16:17, September 15, 2019 (UTC)
I don't agree with this. Merging Shady Sands and Shady Sands (Fallout), ok we can look at that, but not with New California Republic (town). It becomes way too bulky, the overview of the town between the different games becomes lost. Also it's two different games/two different names, at least two different pages. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:58, September 15, 2019 (UTC)
I don't agree on that. Vault 13, Vault 15, and Mariposa Military Base are all merged for both of their appearances in the first two games, and look and read just fine. And the only other argument I've seen against it, that the location isn't called Shady Sands after Fallout 1, just seems pedantic - it's called Shady Sands in pretty much every non-Fallout 2 source. DirtyBlue929 (talk) 18:06, September 15, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, Vault 13, Vault 15, and Mariposa should be divided between two games, since their appearances are substantially different and so are their interactions. A third page would act as a lore overview, as is the case with Shady Sands. There's no real reason to keep them on one page tbh. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:55, September 16, 2019 (UTC)

Edited the article to show what I mean - and what I wanted to achieve when I created it in the first place... Uhhh, eight years ago. Well, better late than never, no? Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:04, September 16, 2019 (UTC)
I'll remove the merge tags in a week. Nobody weighed in with the suggestion. Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 14:12, December 4, 2019 (UTC)
Sooo, remove the tags? No? Roger555 (talk) 22:12, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
Lord this is a delayed response but I have removed the merge tags. :) --L84tea Tea kettleWould you like a cup of tea? 22:17, February 7, 2020 (UTC)

"Shady Shores"?[]

I don't own any Wasteland Warfare materials; can anyone confirm whether it's actually stated that the town was renamed? It seems more likely to me that this is a case of a third-party licenced product accidentally getting a name wrong than new lore. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 01:43, September 18, 2019 (UTC)

Sandy Shores
LovinglyGaslight (talk) 01:49, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Though that still contradicts Fallout 2 and New Vegas, where it's still referred to as Shady Sands over a century after the founding of the Republic; it seems the writer just made this up. Makes me wonder how canon these materials are overall. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 01:54, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
Given how most content is framed as "Accurate Circa Fallout 4" It might be assumed the time period is 2287 and it got a rename then. And regardless of if it is or isnt canon, its info that warrants mentioning. LovinglyGaslight (talk) 01:56, September 18, 2019 (UTC)
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