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Why Can't We Be Friends?

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Why Can't We Be Friends?
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Quest data
locationVault 19
given byPhilip Lem or Samuel Cooke
reward300 XP
Powder Gangers fame
Technical
base id0013e5af

Why Can't We Be Friends? is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Contents

[edit] Quick Walkthrough

  1. Speak with Samuel Cooke and/or Philip Lem in the overseers' offices in Vault 19.
  2. Enter the sulfur caves beneath the vault.
    • Cooke's objective: Kill all the fire geckos within the caves.
    • Lem's objective: Find a way to block off access to the sulfur caves.
  3. Report back to Samuel Cooke or Philip Lem.
  4. Ending options:
    1. Lem only: convince Philip Lem to surrender the group to the NCR.
    2. Lem or Cooke: Ask Papa Khan about the Powder Gangers joining the Great Khans.
  5. Report back to Samuel Cooke or Philip Lem.

[edit] Detailed Walkthrough

Speak with Samuel Cooke and/or Philip Lem in the overseer's offices in Vault 19 to receive the two quest options - the offices are located on either side of the vault entrance. Then travel through either the Red or Blue sector living quarters of Vault 19. There are a few frag mines and fire geckos you have to worry about once you enter. From the living quarters find the common room with the pool tables and a hole in the floor. It will bring you down to the sulfur caves. Now you may either choose to kill all of the fire geckos for Samuel Cooke, seal the caves for Philip Lem, or blow up both the caves and Vault 19.

[edit] Samuel Cooke

After you have killed all the fire geckos, go back to Samuel Cooke and you will get some Powder Ganger fame and 300 caps. He then sends you to the Red Rock Canyon to meet with the Great Khans, where you have to convince Papa Khan to join forces with the Powder Gangers in the vault. After you have convinced Papa Khan, return to Samuel Cooke to finish the quest.

[edit] Philip Lem

In the caves, follow the path to the right into a large cave. To the left is a large yellow rock formation peppered with lumps of gray rock. This is the "microcline rock". If you activate it, you will see that it contains enough potassium to create an explosion large enough to block the caves or destroy the vault. You will need a Science of 40 or more to receive the options. Choose to "Plant enough C4 to blow up the caves" which requires Explosives skill of 60 and three C-4 plastic explosives.

Return to Philip Lem and let him surrender the gang to the New California Republic to finish the quest, or with a Speech of 40 you can convince Philip Lem to join the Great Khans. The Speech check is not required if you are liked among the Great Khans. He requests that you act as a liaison, requiring you to visit Red Rock Canyon and talk to Papa Khan to secure their alliance. Return to Philip Lem after talking to Papa Khan to finish the quest.

[edit] Blow up Vault 19

In the caves, find the microcline rock and activate it. Choose to "Plant enough C4 to destroy the caves and the vault then run like hell." (Explosives skill of 50 and 5 C-4 plastic explosives).

  • WARNING: This will fail the quest, and you will not earn any XP. You will be transported to the outside of Vault 19 and the Quest Failed message will pop up.

[edit] Journal entries

For Philip Lem:

StageStatusDescription
1 Find a way to cut off access to the sulfur.
2Quest finishedReport back to Philip Lem.
3 Speak with Papa Khan in Red Rock Canyon.
4Quest finishedReport back to Philip Lem.

For Samuel Cooke:

StageStatusDescription
1 Eliminate the fire geckos in the caves under the vault.
2 Report back to Samuel Cooke
3 Speak with Papa Khan in Red Rock Canyon.
4Quest finishedReport back to Samuel Cooke

[edit] Notes

  • You can find four packs of C-4 within the vault:
    • One is between filing cabinets in the clinic, behind the front desk; one is located between the two vending machines in the cafeteria; one is outside the underground entrance to the overseer's office near the doorway with the firehose box in a nearby pile of junk; the last one is located under a couch in the Blue Sector living quarters (not the first floor). The couch in question is located on the second room to the right and is on the far side of the room. The C-4 should be next to the right front leg of the couch.
  • Despite the fact that the convicts in the vault are escapees from the NCR Correctional Facility, they are not labeled as Powder Gangers, and while they will comment on you relative to your Powder Ganger reputation, it has no effect on being able to obtain and complete this quest. However, either convincing Philip Lem to join the Khans or agreeing with his decision to surrender to the NCR after destroying the caves will gain favor with the Powder Gangers.
  • Killing Papa Khan will cause the immediate failure of this quest.
  • The doors to Philip Lem's overseer's office will be locked after completing the quest by helping Cooke, and the only way to get in is through the cave. Upon entering the room, you find no one there and only a puddle of blood with unidentifiable body parts. Going back and talking to Cooke reveals that he has killed Philip Lem.
  • The doors leading to Philip Lem may not always be locked.
  • If the quest is completed by helping Philip Lem form an alliance between the Great Khans and the Powder Gangers, the vault will be empty the next time it is entered.
  • If the you use C4 to destroy the vault, the car park at the entrance will become a small mound of debris with smoke billowing out of it.
  • A detonator is not required to detonate the C-4 plastic explosive, although it is required to use C-4 during regular combat.
  • Having Boone as a companion will sometimes cause trouble, as he may start attacking the Great Khans, which result in failure, best thing to do is make him wait at Vault 19, since you will be coming back.

[edit] Behind the scenes

  • "Why Can't We Be Friends?" is the title track of the seventh studio by the funk band War, released in 1975.

[edit] Bugs

  • PCIcon pc.png PlayStation 3Icon ps3.png Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png If following the Lem quest line, the map marker will tell you to go to the sulfur caves entrance (now blown up and billowing smoke) to find and talk to Lem about joining the Great Khans after talking to Papa Khan. Lem is actually located in the Overseer's Office, and if you've opened the stairs leading to the sulfur caves he can sometimes be found stuck there.
  • PCIcon pc.png PlayStation 3Icon ps3.png Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png If you enter the Overseer's office from the elevator entrance (Hard lock) in the sulfur caves and open the Overseer's Office with the Average terminal, or just go through this route at any time, you may have some issues with your companions as mentioned above in less detail. When you ascend the stairs into the office your companions become confused and instead of following you up will run out the door back into the caves. If you are at the top of the stairs with a companion and run down they will run back into the vault. It is possible, however to keep your companions with you during this if you manually "push" your companion up and down the stairs. Just crouch and slowly move them and they will glide up, or down the stairs from your push.
    • This seems more like a path finding issue. Your companions will go back the way you came and reappear by your side a few minutes later, the same way they will if you jump from a ledge, (yes, it's an oddity).
  • PCIcon pc.png PlayStation 3Icon ps3.png Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png If the player chooses to destroy the sulfur caves and the vault, but didn't kill Cooke personally, then the ending sequence will still show Cooke still alive and the Powder Gangers terrorizing the Mojave.
  • PCIcon pc.png Xbox 360Icon xbox360.png After speaking to Papa Khan for Cooke and returning with the news, it is possible to enter Lem's office through the main door (not the overseer tunnel) to see the piles of bloody entrails. Returning to Cooke will not trigger the dialogue where Cooke admits to killing Lem; he asks you once again to go and speak to Papa Khan on their behalf even though this is now impossible.
  • PCIcon pc.png It is possible to re-enter Vault 19 on the PC version using the no-clipping command to pass through the mound of earth that appears over the entrance.
  • PlayStation 3Icon ps3.png The option to blow up the caves may not appear.
  • PlayStation 3Icon ps3.png If you have initiated the quest Oh My Papa and haven't triggered the conversation with Regis, the option to ask Papa Khan about Samuel Lem's group is not a dialogue option.
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