Talk: Skire

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Man there are some unfinished projects out there. And some people want to create new ones as well. Here is my opinion. As per the other forum we have going we need to clean up the other projects. A lot of those projects can be finished by the people we have here as those people are still here and apparently either got bored with it or something else happened. Who know, point being is that we have unfinished projects that need to be completed before we go about making new ones. Once Fallout 4 comes out, we really won't have the time to go back and fix these projects and they will be lost forever in the category of "inactive projects". The graveyard where no project ever comes back from. Some of the older game stuff will be hard to find editors for but FO3 and FO:NV we have plenty here who play either or both. Let's do this peeps. Discuss!--Kingclyde (talk) 20:26, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Um..... Agent c (talk) 20:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't be rude and dismiss this forum. That forum addresses reassigning old projects. I am concerned with new and possibly unneeded projects being created when there are plenty of current unfinished projects. That is the purpose if this forum.--Kingclyde (talk) 21:24, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not being rude. I think the issue of the number of projects and content thereof is all one big issue, and to sepreate it into new and old doesn't make sense. In any case, you're advocating that people should work on an old project in deference to creating a new project, which is actually what the other forum (by your own words) is for: reaassignment - it goes beyond just simple reassignment too. I think you're just confusing things by having another discussion away from the discussion. Agent c (talk) 21:36, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I noticed this earlier today but I am just a member so I moved on without making any fuss but now that the topic is open.. It makes better sense if you want to start a project to find other members and discus it first. Then as a group approach a mod or admin that might help redefine it and or put it into action.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 21:23, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I understand what you mean, and the release of Fallout 4 will put most of our current projects on the back-burner for even longer. However, innovation has a mind of its own, and newer projects that have proven their worth should remain addressed, as well. It wouldn't do us any good to ignore new ideas and/or issues just because we already have some not properly or entirely addressed. Did you have a solution? An incentive prospect might help get these projects done. Not sure what we could do to incentivize editors, however, and there's always the issue of editors expecting to be incentivized later instead of doing it out of good will. I'll let you all know if I come up with something. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:32, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

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+Man there are some unfinished projects out there. And some people want to create new ones as well. Here is my ''opinion''. As per the other forum we have going we need to clean up the other projects. A lot of those projects can be finished by the people we have here as those people are still here and apparently either got bored with it or something else happened. Who know, point being is that we have unfinished projects that need to be completed ''before'' we go about making new ones. Once Fallout 4 comes out, we really won't have the time to go back and fix these projects and they will be lost forever in the category of "inactive projects". The graveyard where no project ever comes back from. Some of the older game stuff will be hard to find editors for but FO3 and FO:NV we have plenty here who play either or both. Let's do this peeps. Discuss!--[[User:Kingclyde|Kingclyde]] ([[User talk:Kingclyde|talk]]) 20:26, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
+*[[Forum:Cleaning_up_the_projects_page|Um.....]] [[User:Agent c|Agent c]] ([[User talk:Agent c|talk]]) 20:56, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
+:Please don't be rude and dismiss this forum. That forum addresses reassigning old projects. I am concerned with new and possibly unneeded projects being created when there are plenty of current unfinished projects. That is the purpose if this forum.--[[User:Kingclyde|Kingclyde]] ([[User talk:Kingclyde|talk]]) 21:24, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
+::I'm not being rude.  I think the issue of the number of projects and content thereof is all one big issue, and to sepreate it into new and old doesn't make sense.  In any case, you're advocating that people should work on an old project in deference to creating a new project, which is actually what the other forum (by your own words) is for: reaassignment - it goes beyond just simple reassignment too.  I think you're just confusing things by having another discussion away from the discussion.  [[User:Agent c|Agent c]] ([[User talk:Agent c|talk]]) 21:36, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
+I noticed this earlier today but I am just a member so I moved on without making any fuss but now that the topic is open.. It makes better sense if you want to start a project to find other members and discus it first. Then as a group approach a mod or admin that might help redefine it and or put it into action.
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-== Chickenoflight ==
+I understand what you mean, and the release of Fallout 4 will put most of our current projects on the back-burner for even longer. However, innovation has a mind of its own, and newer projects that have proven their worth should remain addressed, as well. It wouldn't do us any good to ignore new ideas and/or issues just because we already have some not properly or entirely addressed. Did you have a solution? An incentive prospect might help get these projects done. Not sure what we could do to incentivize editors, however, and there's always the issue of editors expecting to be incentivized later instead of doing it out of good will. I'll let you all know if I come up with something. [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 21:32, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
-Hey Skire. I though personally that Chickenoflight actions were indeed bannable offenses yet I couldn't do that myself so I left the notice instead. I just actually jumped into chat to see if an admin could take care of it. Nice hit though Skire. <s> Side note though, even though you banned the user, he still seems to be sitting in chat. Not sure if you want him kicked or something as I know a ban should disallow chat aswell - unless I have misunderstood wiki bans all this time >_> </s> Anyways, see you around Skire! --[[User:The Old World Relics|The Old World Relics]] <font color= "Black"> <sup> ''([[User talk:The Old World Relics|talk]]/[[User blog:The Old World Relics|blog]]/[[Special:Contributions/The_Old_World_Relics|contributions]])''</sup> </font>  21:37, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
-:Scratch that. Chad got it. --[[User:The Old World Relics|The Old World Relics]] <font color= "Black"> <sup> ''([[User talk:The Old World Relics|talk]]/[[User blog:The Old World Relics|blog]]/[[Special:Contributions/The_Old_World_Relics|contributions]])''</sup> </font>  21:40, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
-::AdNinjaStrator! [[User:Agent c|Agent c]] ([[User talk:Agent c|talk]]) 22:19, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
-== Votes ==
-This will be a circulating message to all users that expressed their opinions over my recent [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:DB:New_Wiki_Features_-_Vote discussion and vote.] Please make sure to update your votes accordingly to this new information:
-*Info-box Mk.II - For those of you wanting to see an example first, an example for how the changes will look (Keep in mind that this example is in its most basic form.) can now be found [http://communitytest.wikia.com/wiki/User:MarkvA/test here.] If a positive community consensus is reached, the new design will become functional here and the community can decide from there whether the final design is appropriate or not on Nukapedia.
-*JunkRadio - I would like to share a quote from the JunkRadio designer himself: I was thinking of adding it to the top left or bottom left corner of the wiki. I can give it absolute positioning, which means that it will display on the top left, regardless of screen resolutions. If necessary, I can make it scroll down with the page as well, although this might distract users from reading the actual pages. - Mark van Alphen
-**Thank you for reading, and I'll be looking forward to gathering everyone's final opinion over these new changes. Due to the overwhelming support so far for all three changes, only needing minor points to update them for clarity, the vote will continue as normal, and will end on the 23rd as scheduled. If you would like to dispute this, please leave your concerns and reasons behind them over my talk-page. Happy editing! [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 17:03, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
-== Bots ==
-Yup. It sure would go faster with a bot. But, as far as I know, Nick's using AWB, which can't use regexes to make changes like these. I'll message him, but I think we'll have to do these by hand.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:13, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-:Thanks, but I think we're good. I did have some problems editing some of the blog comments. Some would allow me to edit them, some not. Got any ideas?'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 19:44, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-== Still Here ==
-Responding to your message, I fully plan to continue to support this wiki, (it is my favorite), but my job and education are taking up increasingly larger amounts of what was my free time. I've been unable to actively contribute on a regular basis but I still check the wiki once or twice every week for any news. I will still be available if anything needs doing, and if there is anything specific feel free to contact me, (I will try to log on more to check my messages). Believe me I do want to help and become a more active member, I just don't  always have enough free time. If something big does come up, (possibly Fallout 4), then don't hesitate to contact me, I'll help in anyway I can. [[User:Atlas Star|Atlas Star]] ([[User talk:Atlas Star|talk]]) 20:46, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-== Van Buren Reversions ==
-Hey, just thought I'd let you know the VB reversions I made were done after talking in chat with Chad and being told that we try to preserve the original spelling for VB stuff. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 21:07, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-: Don't sweat it, man, I dropped you a line to let you know why I did what I did. Wouldn't want you to think me a vandal or some such. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 21:16, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-::In regards to the protection, short sighted was the wrong word to use, Chad explained the logic to me, however I see it as something that would create difficulty when updating links, adding links or any other editing that may need to be done. Additionally, I feel that it is further made a bit unnecessary by the fact that they don't get edited much, and Wagnike's edits to them are the first in a while and protecting the pages, in my opinion makes it harder for those users who might be working on Van Buren articles to make any changes to that page, and while as you said one can contact someone with rights to unlock it or edit it themselves I feel that adds an extra step in editing something that isn't often touched upon to begin with. I understand the desire to protect them however, say they had already been protected, then unless I'm horribly mistaken, it wouldn't have stopped Wagnike from editing them as he's staff, it would however, make it harder for those edits to be reverted. This is just my opinion, and while I realize that it differs from yours, I felt that I should let you know my reasoning. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 23:26, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Understood. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 23:40, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-==Sledgehammer==
-You do realize that the edit I made was to terminate the Strategy that is currently making up for more than half of the Characteristics?--[[File:User_ncr.gif|30px|link=User:For NCR]][[User talk:For NCR|<font color= "Orange"> <sup>''A Safe People is a Strong People!''</sup> </font>]] 22:58, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-#Sorry about that. I searched the pages' edit history and yours were the latest, so I assumed it was you. I'll take it to him, then. Thx!--[[File:User_ncr.gif|30px|link=User:For NCR]][[User talk:For NCR|<font color= "Orange"> <sup>''A Safe People is a Strong People!''</sup> </font>]] 23:05, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
-== Learning a new language ==
-Hey, I just noticed on your profile page that you're fluent in Mandarin, cool! Did you get a tutor for that? Because I've been wanting to learn Japanese, but not sure how to go about doing it...
-Currently, I'm just doing some free introductory lessons online.
-[[User:BrandonFox|Brandon Fox]] ([[User talk:BrandonFox|talk]]) 20:51, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
-== Overview pages ==
-[[Fallout Online/PV13 developers|I've done the developer page]] roughly in the style I had in mind for the other needed pages; heavy use of transcluded, and some of the images need a bit of work to make them all flush, but I think it shows a more "useful" and informative style than the basic lists that exist currently. [[User:Agent c|Agent c]] ([[User talk:Agent c|talk]]) 13:33, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
-== Peer Reviewing ==
-Thanks, Danny, though it it is worth noting that it wasn't difficult work, just needed a bit of patience due to the amount that needed doing :P Again, thank you. [[User:Higgey the Scotsman|Higgey the Scotsman]] <sub>([[User_talk:Higgey the Scotsman|talk page]])</sub> 02:37, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
-== Chat ==
-I'm in chat right now if you felt like catching up. --[[User:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving|TwoBearsHigh-Fiving]] [[File:Intercom01.png|x20px|link=User talk:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving]]   22:33, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
-Thank you!
-[[User:CommanderNuka|CommanderNuka]] ([[User talk:CommanderNuka|talk]]) 22:44, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
-==Re: Project reward==
-Sure thing. I've been sitting on the notable loot award since New Years, so just message me whenever you wish and I'll upload it lickety-split. --[[User:Kastera1000|Kastera]] <sup>[[User talk:Kastera1000|(talk)]]</sup> 23:37, March 25, 2013 (UTC)
-:[[:File:Project award - Notable loot project.png|Here you are]]. Pleasure doing business with you. --[[User:Kastera1000|Kastera]] <sup>[[User talk:Kastera1000|(talk)]]</sup> 23:22, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
-== Project completion & award ==
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-:Thanks Danny! Good work. --[[User:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving|TwoBearsHigh-Fiving]] [[File:Intercom01.png|x20px|link=User talk:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving]]   03:44, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
-==Chat?==
-Hey, Danny, if you could come to chat with me ASAP, that'd be good. Thanks, [[File:Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1.jpg|20px|link=User:Dead Gunner]] [[User talk:Dead Gunner|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''"Semper Invictus"''</sup> </font>]] 23:04, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
-==Forum discussion==
-Hello Danny.  This is a message I will be rotating among Nukapedia's sysops and regular contributors. I would like your input on [[Forum:Discussion - elimination of moderator position|this]] forum.  In an attempt to remove redundancy and confusion, I have proposed some tweaks to user rights, including the elimination of the moderator position.  Thanks for your time, and let me know if you have any questions. [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|20px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>nihil novi sub sole</sup></font>]] 09:25, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
-== Thank You! ==
-Hey Skire, Thanks you for the Congrats. I couldn't have done it without your help my friend :D
-<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gunslinger470 "'The One, The Only, The Gunslinger!"]</span> [[file:RangerSequoia.png|0x31px|Monster of the East, huh? Well, I've got the Monster of the West in my holster right now.]] 19:18, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
-== Platforms Needed Tag ==
-The platforms needed tag isn't mean to replace the Verify tag. It is supposed to be placed on bugs that lack the <nowiki>{{platforms}}</nowiki> tag. That said, bugs that are without a platform on FO3 and NV articles are usually unverified bugs. The platforms needed tag seems a little bit superfluous at the moment, because if a bug has been verified then the platform should be indicated. Now not all bugs that are without a platform are unverified, in that situation the use of the platforms needed tag as a marker is what I'm assuming the template was originally made for. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 15:37, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
-:Yes you are correct. It's kind of confusing to be honest, the Platforms Needed template has become kind of redundant. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 03:43, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
-::Huh? Of course, why wouldn't I? The platforms needed template isn't going anywhere, it's still useful, so there is no need to get rid of it. While I have pioneered the policies we use for bugs, I have not been alone in my endeavors, and it's not really a competition either. The platforms needed tag was an excellent idea, and still functions well within our current system, it is a template we just have to use in combination with the verify template, it's main purpose has just become a little bit redundant is all. I'm sure we can find some way to tweak it so that it's no longer so redundant. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 20:47, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
-==Vertibird==
-Hey Danny, I was wondering - should vertibird (when written in articles) be capped or not? [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[File:Signature0.jpg|25px|link=User talk:Energy X]] 22:14, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
-== Securitron ==
-I don't believe it is. We do not capitalize 'protectron', 'robobrain', etc. etc. etc. What makes 'securitrons' any different? [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 23:46, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
-:I wouldn't really classify them as not being common enough to be generic robots, seeing as in how they're one of the few robots left in post-War America that are still being manufactured off of assembly lines from multiple locations. But yes, I fully believe that they should remain de-capped, as their name has no special significance other than to declare their model type. [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 23:52, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
-::Sounds like a plan. Got to finish up these follow-up edits on Chad, too. 'dont' and 'favour' are really bothering me. Contemplating de-capping 'Canceled', too, but that might be a bit unnecessary. [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 23:59, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
-Oh im sorry about that, i was writing on the chat and(because i was new) i was seeing
-who were the admnistrators and moderators and then( i know this is embarissing but...) i cliked on edit and then publish, I´m so sorry, not going to happen again.I will try improve some pages in the FO,FO2,FO3 and NV for now(if i find out there is something more to be added. Again, sorry =).
-==Rights removal to 1 year==
-I talked it over today with Gunny to get a bearing on the support for this. AFollower's included it in [[Forum:Proposal - User Rights Changes‎]]. You can vote for it there. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:48, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
-== Speel-Chack ==
-I don't believe there's a native spell check in the editor. There's no extension for it, and when I turn off spell checking in my browser, it stops.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:06, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
-== Use of the Verify and Platforms needed tags ==
-I am inclined to agree with your definition, and as we discussed, the platforms needed tag does not always indicate a lack of verification (sorry if in our original discussion I did not make this clear). --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 01:58, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
-== Latin ==
-You are correct, sir.  I was looking for 'order ab chaos', but I mistranslated it.  I think 'ordo a chaos' actually means ''order to chaos'', which, obviously, does not fit with my user theme.  Thanks for pointing it out.  [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|25px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>ōrdō ā chaos</sup></font>]] 22:44, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
-== Spelling ==
-My apologies. I just go with what my spell checker flags as being misspelled, and look into it. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 23:23, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
-== Re: Pages ==
-It's all good.  Wasn't sure if there was an admin watching the feed so I thought I'd throw 'em in there.  [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|25px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>ōrdō āb chao</sup></font>]] 03:12, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
-==Quick hello==
-It's good to see you're still doing so well and that you've matured up when it comes to taking knocks. Proud of you man. Keep it up. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> You know who it is ;) 01:39, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
-== NUN ==
-Could you please update the status of your NUN partner?'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 00:42, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
-==Licensing==
-You're forgetting the licenses on the images. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 21:50, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
-==Update==
-To whomever reads this: I'd like to apologise for my recent relative inactivity. School work and other matters are beginning to consume much of my time, allowing for less time to be on the wiki in general. I'll still be around; I ain't going anywhere. See you all =) {{User:Skire/Sig}} 01:45, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
-== He/she ==
-I dunno, but it's always looked like poor writing to me. And someone changed the alignment for Jericho and insists Clover is Asian in the FO3 GECK. I have no way to check that. [[User:Great Mara|Great Mara]] ([[User talk:Great Mara|talk]]) 01:20, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
-==Untitled==
-Hi no the bug is that it will not give the weapons back it to me and I lost it a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG time ago do you have a fix that does not make me go back to an old save plz? Thank You for your time [[User:The Courier9283|The Courier9283]] ([[User talk:The Courier9283|talk]]) 01:06, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
-==Untitled==
-I don't know how tok use this but agent c and gunny said you would be my mentor
-It's journey321, I can't make edits or anything because I know nothing about editing at all, I need help!! {{Unsigned|Journey321}}
-Hi Skire,
-This is user fakaiyun,
-I felt that the references I added sufficiently corroborated the resemblence.  Stubbs literally grabs a part of himself and chucks it at enemies and it explodes.  I said resemble to put it modestly - the similarity is stunning!  Do you think I could change that back?
-Regards,
-fakaiyun--[[User:Fakaiyun|Fakaiyun]] ([[User talk:Fakaiyun|talk]]) 01:56, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
-Ok I know that but I don't know what to write anything or what anything means I just need help can u teach me stuff [[User:Journey321|Journey321]] ([[User talk:Journey321|talk]]) 07:22, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
-I can't find anything to edit. I know there's cleanup, feletion, etc. but most require pictures I don't have and such. Any ideas? [[User:Journey321|Journey321]] ([[User talk:Journey321|talk]]) 21:03, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
-What do I change it from second person to? I found some pages with it, but don't know what to change it to. [[User:Journey321|Journey321]] ([[User talk:Journey321|talk]]) 15:04, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-==VA to FW==
-Sure, go ahead. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:11, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
-: No, leave it. I'm pretty sure it stands for request for administrator. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:34, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
-:: Or maybe change it to FW:AR (adminship request)
-::: Sure do that one. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:39, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
-== Re: 2nd Person ==
-I'm not sure why it is stated that way, but 'the player' is most definitely 2nd person.  This was discussed at length in [[Forum:Discussion: Perspective and its place throughout Nukapedia|this]] forum.  'The player character' is 3rd person. [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|25px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>ōrdō āb chao</sup></font>]] 00:32, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-:I assumed that through the forum we had arrived at a conclusion that 2nd person is not allowed.  Consequently, 'the player' should be avoided and the third person form 'the player character' should be used.  I'm going to message Leon and get his take on it, I feel as though the inclusion of 'the player' in the editing guidelines may simply be an oversight.  [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|25px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>ōrdō āb chao</sup></font>]] 01:45, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-::I apologize for insinuating, I didn't mean it in that way.  I was moderately confused because under English language grammatical conventions, 'the player' constitutes second person POV probably 99% of the time it's used, and was certainly in this perspective in Hawk's edit.  Regardless, Leon appears to have clarified the matter on FW:EDIT.  Apologies if I seemed blunt or hostile, I was in the middle of finals prep and was trying to clarify my position as fast as possible.  Cheers.  [[file:FollowersApocalypseLogo.png|25px|link=User:A Follower]][[User talk:A Follower|<font color= "tan"><sup>ōrdō āb chao</sup></font>]] 01:41, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-== Cannibal Johnson Anon ==
-Just wondering who I should inform, but [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:124.50.27.11 this anon] has changed the Karma value for Cannibal Johnson twice since their week-long ban on December 4th for the same thing. [[User:Great Mara|Great Mara]] ([[User talk:Great Mara|talk]]) 16:06, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-==Bot account==
-If you think you can work with a bot, it's fine by me. You can create an account for it and I will give it bot rights. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 17:08, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-: Here you go. You already heard we have a new king?? =) Willem Alexander. What a day today. A great boost for everyone here, I feel it. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 19:46, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-:: Beatrix was popular. But now we have Maxima as a queen next to Alex. She outranks everyone in popularity. We're all very excited here. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 19:52, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-== Shortcuts ==
-No, it's fine. Something wacky happened to the shortcuts and/or the shortcut template when Wikia changed the namespace from The Vault to Fallout Wiki, I believe. The shortcuts aren't working the way the template usage says they should, but they're working and that's what's important. I tried and couldn't get them to work putting the shortcut redirects in the Fallout Wiki namespace. The only way I could get them to work was putting the redirect in the mainspace like you did, so as far as I'm concerned, if they're working, they're good to go. I'm just adding the shortcut category to them to finish them. '''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 19:48, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-:Actually, now that I'm getting into it, we should have just renamed those pages. I'm having to go through and change all the old links to the old redirect pages so I can delete them.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 20:44, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
-::Well, we could just leave them, but that just makes them a bunch of dead end pages that will never be used for anything. I'd just as soon take care of them. I'm gonna ask Bears to run his bot over what links to the pages in [[:Category:Shortcuts]] and change all of the instances of VA to FW, plus change any of the links to the ones you guys changed. Or you could see if you can do that in AWB.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:14, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Ok. You're going to have to find a way to navigate that category without it redirecting you. We need to check the links to the old redirect pages and make the changes there, like: [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Fallout_Wiki:RFA]].'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:31, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-::::No, that should be good, just remember to change any shortcuts that you guys changed the abbreviations on, like <nowiki>[[VA:RFA]]</nowiki> got changed to [[FW:URR]].'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:35, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-:::::I caught up with you. All the old redirects are deleted up to where you left off. I might do a few more by hand.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 02:09, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-{{Od}}No problem. I'll follow behind you, check the links and delete the redirects.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 19:39, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-:Yes, you'll need sysop rights to edit blogs and some other protected pages. Even with those rights, you won't be able to edit some old blog comments. I ran into that problem once before. I have no idea why I couldn't edit old blog comments, some I could, some I couldn't. Maybe the caches are archived or something. Sysop rights granted.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 19:46, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-::I believe that there's 4 redirects we're gonna have to live with. Those 4 still show links that are somehow tied up with templates that link to the Fallout Wiki space. I believe it's residual from the mass redirecting of The Vault namespace to Fallout Wiki mainspace. Anyways, I've poured over all the templates involved and simply can not see where the link to the old redirect is coming from. So we'll just keep them.'''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:20, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
-==Red Lucy==
-Tagaziel added the background for Red Lucy and at the time I praised him for it. He checks his facts so I reckon it would be a good edit. You might want to doublecheck with him. You can't accuse him of poor writing... [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 20:01, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
-==Bug project==
-We don't have (or can create?) a list of "completed" pages (pages with all verified and still having the bug template). I wouldn't know how to do pick them out with a bot. I've removed a few tags the old fashioned way. If you know of something, first talk it over with bleep, then you can go ahead. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 19:09, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-== Fallout Factions Tags ==
-Well I just noticed a couple pages that needed the tag. I had no idea that the project was inactive, but I would be more than willing to pick it up once I finish updating the bug charts and cross checking the articles in the Bug Verification category. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 19:08, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-:I'm not familiar with UTF-8, but the category <nowiki> [[Category:Bug Verification project]] </nowiki> has a complete list of every page marked with the Bug Verification project tag. There are probably still some pages that lag the tag at the moment that have bugs, and I will catch them as I come across them. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 19:19, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-::Yeah once I'm done updating the charts I'm going to take the tags off all the pages that have complete bug sections. I would greatly appreciate the help of your bot with that, there are over 1300 articles with bugs so you can imagine how much of a pain it will be to take the tags down off the completed articles. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 19:23, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-:::Yeah it shouldn't be super difficult for the bot. I have to go through and check the Bug Verification project Category to make sure all the pages are in the charts, then I will have to go through article by article and check to make sure they are complete, and yada yada yada. It'll take me a couple days to do all that because of Finals. --[[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 20:28, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-::::I will, and thanks! [[User:-bleep196-|-bleep196-]] ([[User talk:-bleep196-|talk]]) 22:29, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
-==Second Person==
-Should I change second person for mission/quest articles?
-Also, I would like if you could come to chat and help me out sometime or something. I would like to learn more about editing, like I don't know about infoboxes, templates, merging, stuff like that... [[User:Journey321|Journey321]] ([[User talk:Journey321|talk]]) 16:03, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
-==Projects==
-Hello {{PAGENAME}}, you are listed as a project leader of an active project. Please visit [[Forum:Cleaning up the projects page]] and update us with the status of any active projects you are currently listed as leader on. '''<span style="border: 2px solid gold; background-color: red; white-space: nowrap; ">[[User:The Gunny|<font color= "gold">&nbsp;The Gunny&nbsp;</font>]]</span>&nbsp;'''[[file:380px-USMC-E7 svg.png|x20px|link=User talk:The Gunny]] 01:57, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
-==Botwork==
-Danny, I've got some nice botwork for you to do! Change every <nowiki><br>, (space)<br>(space), (space)<br> and <br>(space) into <br /></nowiki> (breaks lines and the space between r and / is also for better readability). First try a few out before you do everything because it will affect quite a few pages. And can you also change |tag Skills into |tag skills. Just changed it on [[Secret Service]] because |tag Skills doesn't work. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 15:14, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
-: Huh? We don't have a <nowiki></br></nowiki>. You can first change <nowiki><br> into <br /></nowiki> if you need some kind of order. Note the space between the r and the /. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 23:34, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
-:: Doesn't matter which category you start as long is it's everything. First make a few test edits though. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 23:47, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
-::: Good things you made those test edits. That turned out a complete mess! But now it looks good. You can go ahead. Keep an eye on it though. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 00:17, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:::: It's going great. Can you also change <nowiki><br/> into <br /></nowiki>? [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 00:34, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-::::: I realize now you need to go through a lot of categories. Best to concentrate first on the character pages, they have the most br's that need fixing with the inventory items. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 21:51, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-{{od}} Is it possible to remove the spaces before and after <nowiki><br /></nowiki> I've seen some on the perk pages, along with the run you're doing now ? [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:27, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-:<nowiki>Keep in mind that the <br> tag is a singleton tag, meaning that it has no end tag. In XHTML, you must close the tag with a final slash (<br />), but in HTML, it is not required (<br>).</nowiki> [[file:ForGaroux.png|40px|link=User:GarouxBloodline]][[User talk:GarouxBloodline|<font color= "Black"> <sup>''Some Assembly Required!''</sup> </font>]] 22:38, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-==Limmie==
-{{tb|Limmiegirl|A comment}}
-== Change ==
-That stopped being accurate a while ago. Nowadays I check all edits, or at the very least those that have yet to be patrolled. I added that back in 2011 when I added all of my original user boxes. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 21:56, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-: Why thank you. [[User:Richie9999|Richie9999]] ([[User talk:Richie9999|talk]]) 22:06, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
-==Bot, again==
-Can you also put your bot to work on all pages linking to {{tl|Infobox person}}. Many developer/voice actor pages have br that needs checking. First try a few ok? [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 00:07, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
-: Ok, I hadn't seen that. You can finish run its doing now. Sure worth while don't you think? Then continue with the infobox person. Plenty of pages there also. [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 00:21, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
-:: Good work. It makes the pages when editing just that bit neater to look at. Can you now do everything that's linked to {{tl|Infobox location}}? [[user:Jspoelstra|Jspoel]]  [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 09:38, May 10, 2013 (UTC)