Talk: Jspoelstra

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Re: Playpen

Hi! Take a look at this screenshot User:Theodorico/sandbox02

1. I'm using a "green screen". In the preview window: Uncheck Ground plane and set background to 0 255 0. In the render window i'm using a re-textured billboard. The screen doesn't have to be green - the main idea is to get maximum difference between the background and the object. In case of plasma grenade - purple will do the trick. Plus, force maximum quality settings for your video adapter. Everything else is as usual - remove background color by any means necessary.
2. They are in the Cell View window. Mostly meaningless with console in mind, but i fill them to avoid extensive searching next time i need to check something.
3. Sad news. OK, i'll start filling my request. --Theodorico (talk) 21:03, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hi!

1. Playpen: Yes, just delete everything around or move it away from the surroundings.
2. Background color: Actually this is a VERY good question! This solution is so obvious... that i just somehow ignored it and moved to more complex ideas... Anyway, here's a guide User:Theodorico/sandbox02.
3. Unmarked locations: File > Preferences > Render window tab - make sure that you have "Allow render window cell loads" checked, plus you might want to set "Clipping distance" to the maximum. Now, just load nearest known location and navigate to wherever you want using the Render window - it should load new cells as soon as you reach them, just select some objects from time to time - just do not click objects in the distance, or you might find yourself in the middle of nowhere... (Just in case: here's a link to the TESCS wiki [1] with keyboard shortcuts to control camera movement.) As soon as you reach your destination, select any object and check the Cell view window to get the cell name. --Theodorico (talk) 21:55, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Help with identifying an image

Here is the image ==> http://www.at7addak.com/en/Articles/226645/Preview/PS3/Fallout-4-Teased

Now I could sware that I saw that before, something you uploaded. Project V13 concept art or something. Do you recognize that image? If not then maybe there is something to that article. --StylesV13 (talk) 04:47, January 10, 2013 (UTC)StylesV13

F4

As I think you've spotted, I, Skire and Neko did a F4 portal today... The Vault built one to try and get a jump on Search Engine Rankings, so I figured we had better do the same. I've reused the Code from the F3 portal, although theres a few commented out parts (like featured articles) that can be reactivated as and when needed. Agent c (talk) 19:39, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Had some problems with the blog aggregator, couldnt intially work out how to make the one with the one with the lower n work, so tried again with the Cap N, and still no good... Eventually figured it out close enough in the end, but those pages are a pain to edit... Basically you have to either use the wizard tool (which leaves off the template the other ones have at the top), or create a page somewhere else and rename it over the top... Even still its not quite the same, but good enough for us I think.

I'm afraid changing the home page from login is beyond me... If I knew where the code was I might be able to figure it out (everything so far has been more or less reverse engineering).

For the game Icon, I'm thinking maybe just a basic 4 until we have something official? I'm thinking also better put it on the front page for the search bots... Might do that now actually. (Someone beat me to it) Agent c (talk) 20:11, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'll give the categorisation a shot... Agent c (talk) 21:18, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Done. Basically to edit those properly, they have to be moved away from the blog space, and then moved back. Agent c (talk) 21:21, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think the blog page is okay at the moment... Have I missed something? Gratz on the image post... Shame they didn't link to us, need to be ready with Ausir waking up... 94.1.115.60 00:03, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

(←)  I dont have an edit button there, but I can get the heading there - scratch that, I see what you mean now. Agent c (talk) 00:27, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Edit button present. Not sure what is making the actual blogs appear that way, rather than the conventional way... Agent c (talk) 00:33, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Fixed that too, and the PV13 didnt have the template and stuff for some reason... Urgh, this portal stuff is a pain, thank goodness we dont get too many new games... Agent c (talk) 00:48, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Intro

I had to change the portal button width in the .css. The buttons were running over the padding on the right of the portal table and looked like crap. I also wanted to see if they would look better with the bottom row centered in the portal box like the top would be and could only really see it if I published the changes. I will change them bottom row back, but frankly, I think the bottom row would look better centered like the top row is. The Gunny   21:30, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

When I land on the wiki, it goes to the main page (or whatever I have set in my preferences). Where are you linking to it from? Perhaps a bookmark? The Gunny   21:56, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Fallout 4

I see the site has jumped on the Fallout 4 news of the guy who voiced Three Dog making that comment. What I don't get was he also tweeted Project V13 concept art along with it. Shouldn't we wait till Bethesda says something before we jump on the rumor bandwagon?

--StylesV13 (talk) 01:03, January 11, 2013 (UTC)StylesV13

I get the point of making a move but IMO it's the wrong move. People come here seaking the thruth and when they see that news they will think it is true. It is a rumor and we can't confirm it. What I think should be dones is "Fallout 4. Nothign official announced by Bethesda but current rumors are." And then goin into detail about them, such as the guy posting Project V13 materical along with his tweet.

It just bugs me to see people jumping on the rumor bandwagon. Nothing is final until Bethesda says so, and so far they have said nothing. We should stick to facts as best we can IMO.

--StylesV13 (talk) 01:15, January 11, 2013 (UTC)StylesV13

Leaderboard

Was a damn road that took me to the second place, I admit... but at least in 2012 it was more fair than 2011! Energy X 19:47, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

I see. Very well. Energy X 20:01, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Stubs

I see Wikia finally got back to us and converted the stub-RW and image-rw templates over to the other parameters based stub templates. About time I say but anyways... If you need help transferring them over, just leave me a line. Yous Always; --The Old World Relics ^{(talk/blog/contributions)} 20:53, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Aha just as good then. See you around then J! --The Old World Relics ^{(talk/blog/contributions)} 20:59, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Image Request

Hey J, I was browsing the wiki and couldn't help but notice that the image used on the page for Sierra Madre armor, reinforced was actually the image for regular non-reinforced sierra madre armor.

I don't have a PC version of New Vegas and I was hoping this would get fixed before it was forgotten as the two armors are very similar in appearance.

And not to tell you how to do your job, but make sure to put the Reinforced sierra madre armor helmet in with this pic as well ;)

Happy editing! --The Ever Ruler (talk) 21:10, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Botwork

Hello! Sure, count it done. :) --Theodorico (talk) 12:12, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

UPDATE: Done. --Theodorico (talk) 17:59, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Fallout Tactics

I just want to say great work on Fallout Tactics. Thank you for putting so much hard work into it, it's awesome to see the pages being fleshed out after so long of being ignored by the Fallout community. Again thanks :).

--StylesV13 (talk) 04:14, January 15, 2013 (UTC)StylesV13

Only Appears

Okay, I was just trying to make it the standard way it is suppose to be. But I won't do that anymore since there is a bot coming and it's not really important. Thanks. (CommanderNuka (talk) 00:38, January 16, 2013 (UTC))

Sound project

is the sounds project still active?

Guardian of the Wastes

It seems that it has reset to 1 out of 60 days. I thought I was at least doing something here every 24 hours, I am sure I did things yesterday.. Seems I was wrong. I was so close, I was 44 days in, or today would have made 44. Is it based on 24 hours since your last post or is it every 24 hours based on some forum clock? Maybe some glitch? I am not mad or anything, but still it would have been nice to get it.

Also the maps I have been loading.. are they good? I am not sure how to make them bigger. The only thing I can think of would be to increase the KB size of images from 12 to maybe 20.

--StylesV13 (talk) 03:26, January 17, 2013 (UTC)StylesV13

Fallout 1 and 2 Currency Links

Js, I'd like to have your incite on an editing idea I have. As both Fallout 1 and 2 are not nearly as popular as the later games in the series, people might be interested on what happened in the former games. One way I'd like to help is by adding Bottle cap (Fallout) and NCR dollars to the "value" section of the infoboxes. It should be added to every page that holds info on an item that has value. Since all of the pages have an unmarked value, no one knows whether the value comes from Bottle caps or NCR dollars. Please share your opinion and thoughts on this at my talk page.-- ^{A Safe People is a Strong People!} 19:30, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Note

I discussed that in chat, as I saw some users before that had the Councillor fancy bar without using .js script. It is a global script, similar to VSTF bar. CoD4 confirmed that in chat. Energy X 20:59, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Categorizing.

I have been actually, I forgot with this new blog of mine is all. I forget to do it sometimes. -- 15:10, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Gunny and the template

It appears Gunny has kept his promise and changed the Fallout 2 infoboxes to have the $ link inside with the value. While this pretty much solves the Fallout 2 problem, I'd like to continue on adding the $ to the fallout 1 pages. Care to share anything, or should I message Gunny about it and he could fix the template again?-- ^{A Safe People is a Strong People!} 16:39, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I've made the first template change on {{Infobox weapon}}. I added a switch that checks the {{{games}}} parameter. If it is only FO1, it adds the $ with a link to caps. If FO2, $ linked to NCR$ and FOT, $ linked to BOS script. If {{{games}}} is empty or filled with more than one game, it adds only the value, no $ or link. That way we can add multiple game values, links and icons by hand. Take a look at a couple of FO1/FO2/FOT weapons pages to see it at work, since the change was to the template, it's already done, no bot work.

After I'm sure it's working OK, I'll go ahead and make similar changes to the other item infoboxes that apply. The Gunny   21:41, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Only to remove them. Now that's something that Theo's bot could do pretty easily. If there's a lot of infoboxes with the $ already there, I'll make the template changes slowly so we can check the pages and remove them when needed. The Gunny   21:50, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I've changed how I'm doing this. I rewrote the template value section to check the {{{games}}} parameter and it now adds the proper monetary unit for each game automatically. I also have it checking to see if there are multiple games in {{{games}}}, and it there are, it adds the appropriate monetary unit as well as the game icon for each game listed. I have also added per game value parameters (eg {{{value fo1}}}, {{{value fo3}}}) so that if the value is different in infoboxes for multiple games, you can enter each games' values. I think this is working well enough. I've already made the changes to {{Infobox weapon}}. Everything looks OK. The Gunny   18:44, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

(←) The asterisks are for the abbcontains template. They allow the template to include all the dlcs without listing them seperately. As for the check on numbers/letters, I'm not aware of anything that will do that, but I'll see if I can find something. There's a few other things I need to clean up anyways. The Gunny   02:46, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

I've sorted out everything but the n/a issue. Probably best to just take that out. The Gunny   03:43, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

H&K CAWS

Hey, I dunno if you're good with FO2 prototype ids, but the H&K CAWS (Fallout 2) is missing one. Trying to find someone who can take care of it as I lack the materials necessary to do so. Richie9999 (talk) 03:23, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Ban

The grim reaper edit might have been alright, but I personally don't think it fit.

The anon was banned for the other edit, the "I'm watching you" insertion. Nitty ^Tok. 03:32, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Bot

I'm just doing them until the bot gets programmed to do these. ---bleep196- (talk) 16:58, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Contact

When will you be available? I'd like to talk to you for a bit (I would've sent an e-mail, but you disabled that option). _Tagaziel ^(call!) 20:51, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

How does your Psychotic perk work ?

Maybe it would fit in with My Polly Pyro NPC companion ?

I am sure the image would. Is this your original art work ?

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 02:42, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Still trying to get my head around the categorization app. I will continue to try & figure that bit out. I know I got the licencing down.

Any way, Yeah the flower child looks cool also. Where do I find the details on these perks that I "assume" are member creations ?

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here."

Question

Hallo J! Richie was talking about Zack Hawkins in chat, and mentioned that he couldn't find any information outside of the page about him. The page has only 3 links - one to a disambig. page, one to the VB characters central page, and one to a VB project page. I was wondering, since you seemed to have worked quite a bit on the VB chars, if you knew anything more about this character, maybe the design doc he's mentioned in? --Skire (talk) 15:41, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

News Sharing

Hi J,

Wanted to sound you out about sonething... Recently Duck and Cover, the onetime home of The Vault, put out a call for people to help them collect and publish news. This seemed like a good opportunity to do a bit of content sharing and interlinking between the two sites. I've suggested it to King of Creation who seems keen on some sort of arrangement - details of course would need to be nailed out - but in Principle is this something you see as a good opportunity? Agent c (talk) 17:26, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

You made a revision to my pic?

Hi, J, it says you made a revision to my Courier image, what did you do exactly? I don't see anything different.

N/A in infoboxes.

Can't promise anything, except that I'll give it a try. :) --Theodorico (talk) 19:50, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Poll's closed

Hey J, sigpic poll is over for quite a while now, it's only pending BC verdict.
Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 00:22, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Image

Hey J, do you have some time to fix this image? Energy X 14:08, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back:P

Nice to have good friends, huh? Place is still in one piece. I went ahead and passed the signature size proposal as written, votes were pretty well in favor of it. Added it to the user guidelines. We're just about there with the infobox value bit. Theo moved the code to a sub-template and it's working mostly as advertised. I just found a small issue, but we'll get that taken care of. Once that's done, we've decided to roll out the sub-template on all infoboxes that include a value parameter, just so everything is consistent on all infoboxes, including FO3 & FNV ones. The Gunny   20:28, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey J

Yo, J, wanna come into chat quick, I had an idea to talk over with you. ^{"Semper Invictus"} 17:55, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Linking conventions question

Hey J. I just have a quick question about linking conventions in infoboxes. Do all linkable parts of an infobox need to be linked, even if they are referenced more than once? I have seen a few with all linked and a few that omit links on the second and third references etc. Also, if something is linked in the infobox, does that mean that you don't need to link it again in the article or opening paragraph? I've looked on the editing guidelines page but I didn't see anything regarding this. Thanks a bunch! ^{nihil novi sub sole} 20:39, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that answers my questions. I've seen a few articles where something is linked in the infobox but not the article and I thought it was odd, so I guess I'll take care of them as I see them. As for the infoboxes I'll just make sure everything is linked accordingly. Thanks for the help! ^{nihil novi sub sole} 21:35, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Русские информационные панели

That's actually an image in the background on their infoboxes. We could change them to our current colors, if they're interested. Perhaps you could contact Anticube to see if they are even interested? The Gunny   01:32, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, man! I just LOVE Google Translate!  :))) --Theodorico (talk) 02:21, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Translation is fixed. Enjoy. :) --Korney San (talk) 18:24, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

I hate google translate. It's always wrong. But it is good for a laugh or two. I don't think I'll need admin status there. What I was thinking of doing was creating my own .css over there, making the needed changes, checking them, and then they could just copy the changes over from my .css page. I'll start to take a look at everything. The Gunny   02:57, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Bug Policy revisions

Hi Js, if you could vote on take a look at this page and cast your opinion that would be awesome. ---bleep196- (talk) 18:59, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ru Infoboxes

Thanks for the offer of help! How do we begin to work together? --FunGorn (talk) 07:31, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
^{Ups, Google Translate )}

Hey man just wanted to say thanks for catching my error on putting repeadily instead of repeatedly --FracturedMind (talk) 21:32, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Chat

Hey J, can you come to the chat for a moment? It will be quick. Energy X 21:35, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Reply

Oh, I just copied that from a page, then pasted it without knowing. Can the bot remove the doctor parameter from the pages? Energy X 23:33, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re: .50MG image

Hi! No it's a GECK render, both bullets are in the same plane, same viewpoint, same light conditions. Hell it's a scientific approach! :))) By the way you can find projectiles in the Object window -> Special Effects -> Projectile. And, yes I'm planning to do the same for all projectiles. --Theodorico (talk) 00:29, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Categorization

Yep, The Old World Relics showed me the last bit of the puzzle last night.

Now I see how easy it really is. I just did not understand. Totally my fault.

Thank you for your time & patience. I was even beginning to piss my own self of. Technology has not been a friend of mine.

• Still I think I got it now.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 04:09, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

RWP Images

Be careful with the images you're transferring over. Haven't had the chance to go through them all, but the one added for Matthew Phillips was wrong, and I managed to dig up an actual image of him straight from his Twitter account. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:11, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, we're going to have to make sure to check any information like that personally before adding it here. For Aaron Meyers, a site was added to his article-page for a completely different Aaron Meyers that dabbles in photography. Did a cross-check, and this photographer seems to have no link to any game studios. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:22, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. Odd, I should have checked that source out first. Seems to be the same person, but the pictures are radically different looking. I'll go ahead and re-add the original image just to be safe. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:25, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Patroller Application

Hey Jspoelstra, how's it going? I am sending a Patroller Application in to you so I can well....Become a Patroller. I feel that I have met the requirements to become a patroller and I will do everything in my power to prove I can be a great one too. I do realize I have only 276 article edits (as of February 4th, 2013) while other patrollers have over 1000 edits. I hope that this does not factor in as the requirement(s) are 250 article edits. I am currently active on this wiki and mainly this wiki. My main concerns as a patroller of edits are grammar, links, removing vandalism, and much more.

I really hope you also believe I have met the requirements for becoming a Patroller on Nukapedia and that we can help each other on here with helping everyone else. If you have any concerns or questions just shoot them at me and I will gladly answer them so you get a feel for what I am like.

Thank you and have a great day!

"'The One, The Only, The Gunslinger!" 00:11, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

FOT characters' background

I think I might've found a solution to the Fallout Tactics characters' backgrounds. Since it is from the game itself, why not deploy {{quotation}} template? That will sure to ease the confusion. Energy X 12:11, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

i dont understand why you deleted my guide either way that was a dick move. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.158.200 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Youtube player

Was wondering why you took out the {{{VideoURL}}} parameter from the player. Problems with the template somewhere? The Gunny   21:53, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sound files

I appreciate your appreciation!
One thing I'm annoyed with, though, is that some users tend to upload sound files with names containing the first few words of the quote. This could potentially cause multiple sound files to have the same or a similar name, which would cause unnecessary confusion. I myself use the names as they are found in the game itself. Would you happen to know if there's some sort of standard naming convention for this?
~ Scribe Aurora ^talk 18:04, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

NUN

Hi J,

I've set out some proposed milestones for the New User Network. These are sort of optional (in that its where everyone should be heading, but the actual criteria are just suggested and mentees/mentors are free to come up with their own together). Please let me know what you think. Agent c (talk) 18:57, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Flak 'N Shrapnel's

Hey, I was just wondering why you moved Flak 'N Shrapnel's to Flak 'n Shrapnel's. In the game it's called Flak 'N Shrapnel's on the sign above the shop, so I'd figure that'd be the proper name for the page. Anyhow, I was just curious and thought I'd ask. Richie9999 (talk) 17:06, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I agree; the shop is a proper noun so what the sign above the shop should be the name of the article. --Kastera ^(talk) 21:50, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ugly file names.

Hello, Jspoel! Our friends from Russian wiki are asking, if we can rename those files:

• 263087 10150284430727673 20320777672 8865296 4062419 n.jpg
• 264087 10150284430782673 20320777672 8865298 2951679 n.jpg
• 261957 10150284430812673 20320777672 8865299 5790421 n.jpg

Because they are using the shared storage and not really happy with those file names (just like us, I guess?).

By the way, infobox overhauling on Russian wiki is going on slow but steady, right now we are ironing some seams, I hope this will be finished in a few days. --Theodorico (talk) 08:39, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Jspoel! Our friends running a file maintenance project, so they stumbled upon those files.
Yeah, some improvement. Let's see if I can persuade them to import {{Infobox}} - that would be a nice improvement! :) --Theodorico (talk) 01:47, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

I smell a Moose

Can you do me a favour? Any chance you can jump into the G.E.C.K. and grab me the full-body shots of both Colonel Royez and Gaius Magnus? Doesn't really matter if you grab their ghoul forms or their humans forms. I can work with both. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 19:54, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Danke. :) They're working perfectly for me, and now our article pages have a couple of brand spanking new images, too! ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:22, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Personal Favor

Hey, I was wondering if you could do me a favor. This is a favor for me though, not for the wiki like my usual favors, so you can say no if you like. However, before I can even ask, I wanted to make sure, is it possible to look up dialogue from add-ons through the GECK? Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 02:23, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the problem is, I don't have the PC version of New Vegas. I've been wanting to get it but I don't want to pay $30 for it. That's why I was going to ask if you were willing to look something up for me. I know in Dead Money Elijah has a line or two about the Ciphers, but I can't find it for the life of me. It's not very important though, so it might not be worth searching for. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 01:18, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Categorizing/Licensing

What category should I use for GECK renders of New Vegas characters? Charcoal121 (talk) 04:33, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

I figured that it could have the subtitle, and not the full title. My mistake. Charcoal121 (talk) 23:42, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I see what you mean. Charcoal121 (talk) 18:31, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ghoul Mask

I have a question for you: I know that a lot of the items used in Fallout 3 were also carried into Fallout: New Vegas, even if they weren't ultimately used in the final product. I was just wondering if the ghoul mask was one such item carried over, and if it's possible to spawn it in-game through the G.E.C.K. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 19:36, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

P.S. - Also, for that matter, the tree-minders' hood? ^{Some Assembly Required!} 19:39, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Damn. Well, thanks for checking into it! ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:49, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

IP check

Hey JS, could you please run an IP check on User:Dr._Klein and the following accounts:

Dr.Klein101
Dr.Klein102
Dr.Klein103
Dr.Klein104
Dr.Klein105
Dr.Klein106

Thanks!

Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 23:29, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal(s)

Hey, we have a vandal. the I.P. address is 77.86.63.8

Thanks much.

"'The One, The Only, The Gunslinger!" 16:24, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Proposal

Hey dude, I have a kickass proposal to the site and I was told in chat to pitch it to you. Ok now hear me out, cause I've got a feeling this is HUGE man, I mean like out of the scale huge. Ok so I was hanging out (mostly in chat since I was thinking about running for chatmod at the time, but that seemingly got derailed for other reasons despite my generally acknoledged badassery, I think because I don't have that much free time to be on the chat due to all the things I do with my life). So anyway I was there minding my own business, and it was really exciting seeing the votes coming in and out you know, we never knew who would come out ahead. But after a while the winner kinda becomes a shoe in know what mean? It kinda kills the excitement! So here I'm thinking, and bear with me for a while cuz it's gonna blow your mind dude, seriously, but I was thinking "where's the glamor here? Where's the pizazz??" Know what I'm saying? So I was watching some reality shows and one thing they always do is keeping the suspense up till the last moment, I'm talking last sec reveals here. So now how we go about to do that? Don't worry dude, I've already thought this through and though (cool) Ok now bear with me for a moment: so we have to keep the votes hidden until the reveal right, so we have to completely overhaul and revamp the voting system we have now. I'm thinking the voters can email the votes to the administrators or the bureaucrats, and they keep careful but personal note (it has to be hidden from everyone else or else the mystique gets blown) of the votes, and then when the deadline is reached then the crats and the other fat cats of the wiki can do their thing and decide. But now HERE's the tricky part, so bear with me again, this is the most important thing: you can't just come in and paste the the results on the page like that, where's the pizazz of that dude?? You (or who ever is making the decision i don't really have certainty of how it works, I'm just running with my guesses here you know, so correct me on this part) are to first call everyone by means of that pop up we have but maybe something more catchy, it has to be it's own pop up and if we can make it blink or another color it's ever better, to the chat. Then you paste every vote one by one, to keep people on the edge of their seats for the whole time. You have to be a bit of an entertainer here, you gotta find that sweet spot that makes the suspense hang on as long as possible. I suggest that you place the votes in such order that makes it impossible for us to guess, like if the vote has a majority of one vote then you have to put one yes one no, the other yes etc. Even if it's out of order, that way you will maximize the suspense. Dude, I can already see how fucking badass that would be. But hey, I wouldn't be doing my job if I let you with just that, I always go that extra mile so I'll give yet another idea to implement it. Now the problem is that we're leaving so far the people who can't make it to the chat/forums in time for the reveal. But wait, I thought of an idea to address that! So you dig those things that have a hide/show butting on them? And when you click it the box expands and hides? So I was thinking using those too so that people who come in late to the party can still keep on the suspense too! So they click this vote and it's yes, they click that vote and it's no, etc. Then they click the final result, and BANG! They fucking had the time of their lives right there. Just think about how many people you would win over to the wiki with just that dude? In this world of easy pleasures you have to be constantly on your toes to keep giving the people entertainment or else they get bored and leave man, but just that simple change will revert that. Let me know what you think of it!

Plank on! Plankster (talk) 22:35, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

In short, he's proposing instead of the poll elements, we vote by email. Given the huge uptick in votes after caning the Edit a page for the vote element, I think its obvious this is a bad idea. The easier we make it, the more people will do it. See also: Internet data explosion following iPhone's initial release. Agent c (talk) 22:48, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal

Hey, Jspoel, got a vandal here. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.194.67.121.

Richie9999 (talk) 06:00, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, Bears got 'im.

Richie9999 (talk) 06:07, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

FP

Done. Maybe need to look at a replacement for Van Buren in the middle to long term. Might be an opportunity there for Other Media, or maybe mixing VB, PV13, Fallout Extreme, Tactics 2 etc together into a "Cancelled games" portal.

I'm also trying to think up ideas to refresh the other portals... Any ideas? Agent c (talk) 14:34, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey man

Hi J, Ci here. Just thought I'd stop by and say hello. Hello! Haven't heard anything on the Itachou front, he didn't reply again; maybe he forgot or something, but I don't want to e-mail again just in case it feels like I'm hounding him.

Got tonnes of work at the moment so that's why I haven't popped over to say hello earlier, but I still check back here occasionally. Decided I'll definitely come back here and the Vault when FO4 comes out (if it isn't in stasis by then), or there is enough info to start informed speculation.

Anyway, I see things are still going well for you and you should be proud of yourself.

See you soon J!

86.131.52.58 22:29, February 16, 2013 (UTC) (Current IP, don't know when that will change but I'd definitely by tomorrow evening)

Cause & effect ~ Leading to a Question

I have been putting this this off.

Some of you who know me a wee bit know I am a retired US vet that as it appears served too long. Might have made it to 30 years.., but NO. It was a goal Obama took off the table with his "Forced retirement" / "Job creation program" .

It might not have hurt so much if he called it " Job ROTATION ". SOB politicians.. There is no jobs created when a seasoned troop is replaced with a wet behind the ears trainee that might not last his first enlistment. THAT IS JUST BAD BUSINESS. No wonder our national debt has tripled.

• I served nearly 28 years. Hell I was in Jalalabad Afghanistan when I joined this wiki.

Long story short. More than my own blood was split in my years of service..

• I came home to say "I suffer from a broken heart."

My old service related injuries have been compiled since Ronald Reagan's fist term plagued me. When I returned from Afghanistan this last time the demobilization Doctors put in a case for medical review.. & I got caught in a catch 22.

Had the review been allowed, my issues could have been better served.

* I was indeed HONORABLY retired.

The point is: The betrayal of the circumstance broke both my mind & heart.

• It is getting worse & I will soon go to court not for a crime but to prove my service related mind Fuck.

This community comforts me, reminds me that I once had some thing to fight for.

• The date is not yet set, but I am due to go back to court again & They might keep me for observation to "assess" my mind's ass fuck from my nations betrayal.

The point at last is : If I give a weeks notice, Can my contributions daily be held until I return ?

The time I spend here means more to me than most might guess.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 22:53, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Court business

There is the rub. I don't know when it will be. These lawyers get paid by % of any fist settlement. It works in their favor to dag it out.

The best I can do is keep you advised and hope you can excuse my absence should the need arise.

• Hopefully it will never come to this. Still when yer blood suck'n lawyer hints at the possibility of my natural defiant nature be'n seen in court.. I might end up locked down for a few days to a month or more...

It would just aid my fevered mind to know. When I hear of the next court date that I could fore warn all off the possibility that I might go away for a bit.

I like it here. Of all the trophy/badges earned, the participation ~ Community awards most tickle my blackened heart. I feel most honored each day that I meet some friends & even at time BEST ENEMIES ~

Ask the Enclave folk ?.. They know how much we love to poke at each other's ideologies across the table in good fun.

*POINT is: I will keep you posted & I don't want to get locked up or loose my time here.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:49, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Missed you in XCOM chat.

NO need to reply for now. I got it.. I'll keep you posted as the case evolves..

As always .. I thank you for your time.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:55, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Blocking

Hey, even though they reverted their vandalism themselves, you may want to block 108.86.207.115 for this edit. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 00:45, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Idea - Cancelled Games Portal

Hi J,

Been thinking a lot about our portals recently... Trying to think of ways to improve/udpate/refresh em... Wanted to sound you out about an idea that you sort of gave me. It is however, likely to be controversial.

Since we've removed PV13 from the front page portal list there is now only one cancelled game on the front - Van Buren, a name that for someone who doesn't know the full backstory yet probably doesn't mean much... I'm thinking it might be a good idea to replace that.

So Instead of the Van Buren portal (and the PV13 portal), we'd instead replace both with a Cancelled Games portal. This portal/section would be anchored by VB and PV13, however it would also be able to spotlight the other cancelled Fallout games that currently get little if any attention. (The PS game, Tactics 2, Extreme, FOBOS2, the iPhone game, and whatever else I might have missed).

"Cancelled Fallout Games" is also more likely to be interesting to people who have just started looking into Fallout, its more descriptive than Van Buren.

It would also have the possibility (although hopefully not ever in practice) of future expansion if later games are cancelled too.

I know dropping VB is likely to be a bit controversial... Wondering if you had any thoughts though? Agent c (talk) 00:54, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

I'll work on the idea over the next week or so, mostly getting the concept right at this stage. I'll come up with a "conservative" mockup that apes the current style, and perhaps a more ambitious one that could be used as a blueprint to update the other portals... Agent c (talk) 01:50, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

I Have a test in progress on This sandbox which is more towards the "abitious" side..

• The slider at the top is the most noticable change from what we do now. Unfortunately it can only support 4 pictures/links... I'm thinking of trying to tie it in with the Rotating content template so that it would rotate through 6 of the 8 games in total (no point featuring the PlayStation and iPhone games there).
• Above the slider is a specific heading for this portal, rather than the general one used on the front page.
• Below that we have the "replacement" for the contents section giving a brief overview of the game. I can include a more traditional contents section too later on a bit paired down from what PV13/VB have now to fit all the games. The alignment doesnt seem right, but it was hard enough getting it that close.
• The featuerd article section is the featured article section from PV13, making a general one shouldnt be too tough. The how you can help out bit also hasn't changed.

Would love any comments so far. Agent c (talk) 18:13, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

I think at that point We're running into what POR referred to as banner fatigue; we're at 8 now, with the features that's 14, up to 16 with PV13/Other Canx. We've then got questions on how long we're going to have them linger on the front, and why they get prominence, but the very detailed FOBOS2 doesn't... Lemmie do a combined "index" tomorrow and see if I can confront some of your worries... Agent c (talk) 21:58, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

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What is Fallout wiki's policy on adding videos? —Preceding comment was unsigned. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Again

Hi J! It's been awhile since we've conversed. I've tried to build my way up to the 365-day thingy again but recently I have realised that I failed again. I was up to around 70 days before missing it by 4 minutes. Amidst the busier schedule I have nowadays, I don't think reaching it is going to be realistic, so it's time to give up. To me, missing a day isn't the end, I'm going to keep contributing as much as I can anyway =) Ciao! --Skire (talk) 21:33, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Can I ask you a quick question? Have you noticed the usage of "actors" in the FO3 and FNV location infoboxes? For example, the robots and creatures parameters would belong under "other actors" in the infobox. I think the word choice is quite odd... --Skire (talk) 00:26, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Very interesting! I was just curious =) --Skire (talk) 01:29, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Fallout 2 Intro

I added an intro to Fallout 2 in the Fallout 2 page. I was wondering if you think this is a good idea to add, as well as to all of the other titles. Also, if you check the Videos section of this wiki, you'll see I added all of the game's intros.-- ^{A Safe People is a Strong People!} 18:46, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Scotch

Scotch as a stand-alone is not considered a proper-noun. However, if it written out as, for instance, Scotch whiskey, the scotch would then be a proper noun. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:23, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Also, please do not just revert my edits. Quite a few of them have legitimate content aside from what you are considering as wrong. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:26, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'll try and condense the links from now on. Working on a few other projects as I'm editing, so I've just been writing them out the little bit longer way instead of checking to see if my changes will result in red-links. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:30, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're wrong on the Scotch thing GB, English grammar mandates all adjectives or common nouns derived from a proper noun (in this case, Scotland) to be capitalized as well.

Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 23:45, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Managed to dig up a good example of what I'm talking about: Click me! I am a link! ^{Some Assembly Required!} 23:47, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

That refers to a house rule of the Chicago Manual of Style, but we're supposed to follow Wikipedia's. While nothing specific is mentioned about it, the first sentence of the article reads: "Scotch whisky (often referred to simply as "Scotch""; capitalizing the word even as a stand-alone.

Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪}

That is true. Alright, let me provide further examples, then. We do not capitalize hamburger or frankfurter, even though they are named after places. The same goes for alcoholic drinks, too. For example, we wouldn't capitalize daiquiri or the manhattan. The exceptions kick in when we use Scotch whiskey, Scotch eggs, Irish coffee, etc. etc. etc. But scotch by itself is not capitalized simply because it refers to Scotland, as shown by my previous examples over the matter. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 00:33, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Heads up

Just wanted to let you know why I changed those weapon comparison tables back. Any template that uses {{Pagename}} and the like doesn't work unless you use the html entities for certain punctuation characters. The apostrophe is one of them. That's why you'll see raw html in certain tables. Any page that has an apostrophe in the page title has to use the html entitiy or else the template won't properly parse some variables.  The Gunny   01:51, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

How do I archive my talk page?

I want to keep my header image & book ends but I'd like to archive the rest. There is just far to many messages to sift through when I get a new one.

Please advise ?

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 15:17, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

No need to reply. Thank you very much. The page was just way to crowded.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 17:05, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal

Hey, Jspoel, we got a vandal here: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.158.1.166.

Richie9999 (talk) 16:53, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ok I guess I had to many open windows

I hope it's better now. No need to respond, I think I see what the issue was. I am sorry. No excuses, I will just try to be more careful.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 23:14, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Developer pages

I don't think the "="s for every parameter needs to be changed, only the mobygames link one perhaps. The alignment of the "=" for each is still a more organised display (and on most articles too). --Skire (talk) 00:22, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops. The source mode and diff mode displays weren't showing the same thing. I got confused. Sorry!! --Skire (talk) 00:23, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Bad category

Hey, saw your edit on File:Paladin117GMQuest.jpg. Sorry about messing up the category, but it still shows it under comment and it's still on the wanted categories page, anyway to fix that? Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 17:56, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, awesome. Thought I was going to have to re-upload it. By the way, what do you think of the quality of the images? I don't plan on uploading many images in the future, but would you consider them good enough for articles or do they need improvement? Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 18:06, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll remember that for next time. Thanks, Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 18:19, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Templates

Comparison table is fixed, not seeing where the extra line break is coming from in transcript and I'll look at the video template. Was there some .js that came over too, or just the template and .css? The Gunny   01:15, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

The video gallery template uses an extension (Embedvideo) that Wikia does not have available for install. They have their own video embed tool. I'll take a look at the template and see if I can change it to use the Wikia too. Also, after further checking, I still don't see where the transcript template is adding the extra line break. It only does it when immediately followed by a header. It could just be one of those "mediawiki software/html incompatibility" things. The Gunny   01:48, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Theo's taking a look at the transcript template, so hopefully he can work out the kinks with it. I've looked at the video gallery and think I've got a workaround. It's not gonna be as easy to use since the way Wikia embed videos is very different than the Embedvideo extension. I'll play with it in my sandbox and let you know what I can come up with. The Gunny   23:29, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Poll

No Problem, its pretty one sided anyway. Agent c (talk) 19:07, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Video gallery

Take a look at User:The Gunny/sandbox#Render. That work for you? The Gunny   21:04, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Using the Youtube extension is going to create some problems. You can't parse template parameters through it. I'll see what I can do, but no promises. The Gunny   03:09, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

This is the best I can do using the youtube extension. You can't pass any parameters through the youtube extension, so you have to add all the formatting including height/width, etc... inside the youtube tags during template usage. Still, it can embed the video properly, without seeing it in the light box or uploading the file. it just won't be as easy to use and format as Porter's template using the embed extension we don't have. The Gunny   21:20, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Ru-Wiki

Thanks! Yeah, It turned out quite not bad, better, than I expected. :) At least visually - internally they are still the same outdated infoboxes. Well, I gave our friends all possible hints on importing the Porter's infobox, now it's up to them, to decide if they want to do this or not. Nonetheless, you are right, this was a very useful experience for me: allowed me to refresh my knowledge on CSS, and I tried myself as an admin... and now I'm not so sure that I don't want to be an admin - completely different feel, if you can go and simply do your job, without bothering someone else to do it for you. Guess, it's time for me, to accept the simple fact, that, since I'm a tech-guy, I have to be an admin, to be as useful as possible for the wiki. I'll start filling my adminship request, and this time I mean it. ;)--Theodorico (talk) 13:57, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Image deletion

OMG, again... What was wrong with File:Ankh.png ? It's a cult emblem and appropriate aticle was written already. --Korney San (talk) 03:58, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

ADB

Hello, J. This is a message that I will be circulating through Nukapedia's Sysops. A while back I had created a more suitable version of the Administrators' Discussion Board as an attempt to help regulate important matters that require immediate attention from the veteran users around Nukapedia. With Fallout 4 on the horizon, I would like to begin making this feature more widely embraced, so that we all are more comfortable and familiar with using it for when the time comes around that we'll need to look towards it the most. What I would like to see is for an example to be set for where certain matters should be discussed within our community, as well as creating an environment where users will know that their issues will be addressed in a timely and fair manner. What does this mean, exactly?

• Appropriate topics should be addressed within the ADB instead of the normal fora space. Not only is the ADB a general area to condense important topics, but it is also always kept at the top for easy access. (As well as having a place within the Community Messages.)
• All Administrators, Moderators, Patrollers, and Bureaucrats should make it a priority to check through the ADB at least once every few days or so. This is the duty of mantling the extra tools, after all, and is not too much to ask for.
• The ADB should make an appearance within new user's welcome message.
• If a topic within the fora has been made that is of significant importance and affects the wiki as a whole, these topics should be moved into the ADB.
  • It is my hope that these requirements will help our community become more familiar with where they should go to have their grievances and ideas properly heard. Right now, the ADB has been largely ignored because the Sysops have also largely ignored it, and this is unacceptable at times when important matters such as this one are mostly by-passed except for a couple of people. With the chaos that is soon to come with the new title(s), all I am asking is for a bit of responsibility in making sure that we all recognize issues and ideas as they come up, and making sure that we do our parts in seeing them through. Thank you for reading, and I would greatly appreciate some feed-back. Once a general consensus has been reached, possible changes will be taken care of.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:00, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Youtube video gallery

OK. Done converting Porter's template for use with the youtube extension. Here are the limitations:

• You have to enter the entire youtube extension code for each video displayed.
• Since the extension can't process template paramters, you have to define video height and width inside the you tube extension AND also define the video width as a parameter for the proper spacing between videos.

I've put the entire limit of 15 videos on User:The_Gunny/sandbox#Using_youtube_extension, and it looks OK. Captions can be added below the videos. Here's the code, so you can see how it's entered:

{{User:The Gunny/sandbox3|widths=200
|<youtube width="200px" height="120px">IoAkvvaW_cA</youtube>
|t1=Caption
|<youtube width="200px" height="120px">IoAkvvaW_cA</youtube>
|t2=Caption2
|<youtube width="200px" height="120px">IoAkvvaW_cA</youtube>
|t3=Caption3
}}

Is that good enough? The Gunny   20:58, March 1, 2013 (UTC)