Talk: Jspoelstra

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Skill magazines poll

Hey J, just a note that the poll is finished. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 21:25, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

On another (related) note, I've just finished rewriting the notable loot policy, please take a look and tell me what you think of it. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 22:28, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

News Notability

Hi J,

Just wanted to sound you out on something. As you know in the News Digests we've covered wasteland news as what is essentially our only exception to the Fallout exclusive focus, on the grounds its made by the same Devs and has a special relationship with Fallout.

According to Twiiter, the first Skyrim DLC is going to be announced imminently. I'm not planning on covering it, other than as a comment (in the comment part) as although it is Beth made, it doesn't have much of a link to Fallout. Do you think this is the right balance?

Ta Agent c 22:41, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hey J, minor change in plan... GameInformer have an exclusive this month with Zenimax online on their "Elder Scrolls online" project. I'm including the Skyrim DLC and this as a very brief mention to say they exist, that Fallout Online therefore isn't Zenimax-Online's secret project, and that we wont be covering either the DLC or TES online in any more detail. Dummy wording is in my sandbox if you want to take a look.

Loot

I noticed the main difference in the edits were the new definitions and an added fo:nv section. Do we need to list scrap metal? That is something we never did before. I can put up a vote for formal definitions if you want.--Kingclyde 00:09, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hey can you hop into chat for a bit?--Kingclyde 00:13, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Mbox management template

I'm fine, thanks :) Hope you're fine as well (despite the drama which seems to be plaguing this wiki recently). Sorry for the late reply, but I don't check my Wikia talk pages as often anymore - it's usually better to leave messages on my talk page at The Vault if you need a timely response.

Regarding the question at hand, your suspicions go in the right direction. There are two possibilities for you:

• Quick solution: Replace "border" with "color" in {{Image needed}} and {{Mbox management}}.
• Future-proof solution: Update {{Mbox}} along with the accompanying CSS, and then switch all page management templates to using {{Mbox management}} (you can probably simply import The Vault's versions).

-- Porter21 _(talk) 10:11, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Forgot to add the necessary changes to Mbox management for the quick solution. I've gone ahead and updated the template accordingly. -- Porter21 _(talk) 07:00, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if anyone noted...

... but every time I'm not logged in, the RecentChanges for the Fallout Answers is there, despite only logged users can make edits. What do you think what should be done about it? MS: Destiny conquers all. 17:51, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

OK. Also, Sigma requested that he wanted to be banned for indefinite for testing purposes. I tried it two times and it didn't work. I typed it into the bar Indefinite and nothing happend. Can you tell us what should we do? MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:05, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the note. MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:25, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

I think the real question is whether or not the "indefinite" ban option is still there. I've been having to manually enter in a date (100 years, for example) if I want to ban someone indefinitely. The option isn't showing up for me and MS. --Skire (talk) 19:27, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I think it used to be an option in the drop-down menu though. --Skire (talk) 19:43, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

It was never an option, you've always had to type it. My favourite ban I did was 5000000000 years (can't remember who) so that in theory, the sun would burn out before they could come back. Φύλαξ ^{[~μίλησε μου~]} 20:20, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Patrollers

I figured giving those to those guys might help them become even more active. There is not much a person can screw up with patroller tights :)--Kingclyde 21:20, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Image-VB

You know, J, I've been thinking: Should the Van Buren "images needed" be categorised separately since the game was never actually released? And I think you tried to import some of the templates from the Vault but can't we just make our own? It'll by the same as {{Image-RW}}. --Skire (talk) 21:46, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I see.

Higgey

Hey Jspoel, I just wanted to remind you that Higgey's time is up. I'm not sure if you unblocked him yet, so I just wanted to remind you. Thanks. ToCxHawK 23:31, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Interesting

Your NL proposition looks pretty sound to me. Although I don't think that fixed locations for items should necessarily be classified as notable. For instance, there is a fixed location in Old Olney for a .32 pistol in perfect condition. I personally don't find the weakest weapon in the game as notable. ^Skål! 14:48, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Recent Earned Badges

Hi J. I saw your message on Sannse's talk page. The Recent Earned Badges aren't working right now. Our technical team knows about the issue and is working on a solution. We appreciate your patience while they sort it out! -- Wendy (talk) 22:11, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Anon edits

Hey Jspoel. Some anon made some edits on Mariposa, NCR, Vault 15, etc. and they seem to be speculative. For future reference, would you undo them? (I'm thinking yes, as the facts seem hard to verify conventionally) AFollower 20:31, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

User name

Hi J. Would this consider this to be an acceptable user name? --Skire (talk) 20:45, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Done.

Yeah, sorry about that. It's usually automatically checked off so I forgot it.

Random article created (probably vandalism).

J, I don't know much about Van Buren, but I don't believe Lasl created by this anon [[1]] really exists in the game. Most probably vandalism. Can you delete the page?
Cheers, --Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 02:47, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

XCom wiki

Hey there Jspoelstra. I am contacting you regarding the XCOM Wiki that you started. I was wondering if you still had any interest in managing that wiki. If you don't, I'd like to take over the management of that wiki. Do let me know either way. Cheers! --Tierrie 06:16, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Adminship Request Result

Yeah, but editing isn't everything. The thing is I just don't know if I'll have the motivation to go for it again. That was what made me go for it this time. -- Bacon-Man ^{Talk to me goose!} 04:06, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, man! -- Bacon-Man ^{Talk to me goose!} 14:52, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

I need your help. I removed the bugs section on Bradley's shack because neither of the bugs were notable, and now the page appears as completely blank, yet when you click edit or history, everything is there. -- Bacon-Man ^{Talk to me goose!} 17:04, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

User blog

Hi J. I'm not sure why you restored that user blog. It was deleted as per author's request. --Skire (talk) 15:07, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

SigmaDelta found a Twitter post by DAC saying that they are not shut down and that they're working on the problem. Broccoli. 15:11, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Hawk found that. --Skire (talk)

Yeah, no problem. I already did :) --Skire (talk) 15:14, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Character quotations

Hey J at the moment the FO1 and 2 quotes from characters who said their quote at the start of the articles don't have their name after the quote; but the FO3 and NV. I think it'd be best if we had some consistency with this. Should we have names or not have them? Kiwi 15:30, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I thought. Just felt it would be better if we have consistency on the articles. Kiwi 15:41, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Poll

Ah, I just used [[Special:CreatePoll]] because that's what Crazy Sam and Kastera used to use. Maybe this way it will get more people to vote. 23:10, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Patroller Request

Hi. I've been here as an Anon since 2009, and decided to make an account in December 2011. I've been continuously active since 27th March 2012. I have 321 article edits.

My major contributions have been quoting nearly all of the Fallout 3 Characters as part of the Fallout Wiki:Fallout 3 and New Vegas Quotations Project, adding quotes related to the article at the top of the page.

I already understand what edits should be reverted and have undone a lot, and think I would be good with the Patroller privileges. Broccoli. 14:33, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Justified text forum

I've opened a forum to discuss using justified text in the article space. If you would like to take a look at it, your input would be appreciated. The Gunny 21:10, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Soundfiles

Most of the sound files I have removed from my user page is the voice from two light switches from OWB. Others are from the biological research station. ^{"Game's rigged from the start."}

Almighty Jspoel aka The Pope

Hey, Jspoel, I've been thinking about something you said long ago. And I've come to realize you were right the entire time. It seems all this drama and stuff comes from having nothing new to edit which leads to boredom which leaves nothing to do, which causes bored people causing drama. So hopefully when Fallout 4 comes out all this drama will go away, and we can go back to strictly editing and away from the gearing of being more community minded. ToCxHawK 04:41, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah all of that is true in so many ways. I don't think everyone has found their place yet, but I know I have. I'm that one Moderator who just edits on Van Buren, and I like my place. ToCxHawK 03:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Images

I see you've successfully imported the {{Image}} templates for each game from the Vault. And I also noticed you were updating the Van Buren templates, so I helped you out a little bit. There are many articles but like the person articles we can get 'em done! Hopefully I won't steal too many of your edits :) --Skire (talk) 19:41, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... that's odd. Can't we just add into the template Category:Image needed (Van Buren)? Otherwise the template seems to be fine and it seems a little redundant to create a whole new one. And also there the {{Image|VB}} template is visually distinguishable from the generic one because it has "(VB)" on it, whereas the {{Image needed}} template is all aesthetically identical. --Skire (talk) 21:15, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Do you want me to go around updating the templates replacing them with {{Image needed|<appropriate game>}}? They'll be easy edits unfortunately but I just want to help. --Skire (talk) 00:32, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. Could you check this edit and let me know if everything is done right, or if not, what needs to be fixed? Thanks. --Skire (talk) 01:14, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

How do I know which one finishes the quest? Always the last one? It seemed to me the quest had many different possible finishes, so I added them to those. --Skire (talk) 01:42, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that's the only way really. Typically when they end in the same conclusion (wording-wise) I'd assume it's an ending. --Skire (talk) 01:53, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Item Locations

Hey Jspoelstra, Sorry about that, I just didn't know how to create those DLC icons. Will do for future edits. Samwhich 20:53, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

New Message

Hello, Jspoelstra. You have new messages at Tocinoman's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

ToCxHawK's request

Hey Js, ToCxHawK's request has ended. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 09:20, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Anon

If this was his first edit here what do you think he'll do when he comes back in a week? People like this have nothing to offer here and are only damaging the wiki and engendering extra work to revert their vandalism. And judging by the message, I don't think he really wants to be back xD I've changed it to a week. --Skire (talk) 19:15, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

It was indeed inspired by Leon and I think it has truth in it. But you're right - best to stick to the rules. --Skire (talk) 19:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Archiving

Last I saw Clyde talking about archiving requirements it was only around 10k+. When did it get upped? ^Message 19:54, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

"Add a photo" problem

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Zeta On this page there is an unnecessary "upload image" box lingering below the actual picture section. I don't know which field is causing it, and I can't seem to find out how to delete it from the page. --Crucified by the sun, in the shadow of the iron cross. Many armed we strike, like wolves in the night, and the cross turns to black. 21:17, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Portuguese Fallout Wiki.

J, I`ve noticed that Ausir is - or was - the bureaucrat of the PT Fallout Wiki [[2]]. But since he`s not a wiki member anymore, there`s no one in charge there. Honestly, I`ve just learnt about the existence of the wiki itself, and I was delighted by it. I began editing some stuff there, but there are some things - templates, for instance - that I`d like to work on, in order to better and beautify the wiki (and learn at the same time). There is a LOT to be done there. However, I guess there`s no one to grant me the position, so I`d like to know if you are able to do so, since it seems that the PT FO wiki was under the management of this one.

Cheers,--Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 22:01, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, J! I`ve made the request. Awaiting now... ;-)

--Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 22:43, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Trail Carbine

Well, if you don't count the DLC's, then it is still a pretty uncommon weapon. (And I don't think we should consider DLC's when talking about weapons also found in the vanilla game.) If you truly feel like it should stay, then I won't argue. It is certainly a good weapon to grab early in the game, although by the time you get your NCR rep up enough to get it, you should already have a better weapon by then. :P Your choice. ^Skål! 16:51, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

"Angry merchant"

Most of the Fallout 2 pages have images (most are cut content). However, the main problem are the Fallout characters. It appears they were either cut (I asked Frankie to look for one of the merchants, but he didn't find him/her) or were removed by a patch (or added?). Same goes for the Followers of the Apocalypse scouts/members. MS: Destiny conquers all. 17:02, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

This is something I wanted to point out. I've exhausted all possibilities of finding these unknown characters often referred to as angry merchants or followers scouts on some pages at the wiki. They're simply nowhere to be found. :-(

Cheers, --Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 07:05, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Although I've just uploaded better images for some Fallout 1 characters, and added a good image for the Crypts and Fools pages (from the Fallout 1 demo version), which were lacking images. But "angry merchants" and "followers of the Apocalypse scouts" must be hiding somewhere really obscure... hehehe

Cheers, --Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 07:15, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

An Idea

I thought about it some more and I think we should actually leave fixed locations out. Just for right now. I have an idea: We should create an official list of which weapons/armour should be considered notable if they have a fixed location. Then we can create a symbol template to put next to these sorts of NL, so experienced users don't remove them thinking that they're not notable under our general policies. Maybe write out this list and put it up as a vote to see what the community thinks of it. ^Skål! 17:22, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Only reason why we should remove them for right now is because technically our policies don't dictate fixed locations for loot as notable. So we'd be kind of making up a rule there. ^Skål! 17:23, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

If you'd like, I can write out a rough list, that we can go over later. I'll be sitting down and working on the Moose anyways, so I should have the time to do that as well. ^Skål! 17:27, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

GECK isn't really needed, I don't think, when making the list. (Although it will be needed when find locations afterwords.) It'll be pretty simple to deduce which items are highly sought after, and whether or not they're hard to find, which would warrant mentioning them in the first place. (Such as the NCR Combat Armour. I don't think this is notable, as you can find it at all major NCR bases, and you can loot them off of NCR hit squads constantly if you are vilified by the NCR. But I would consider the Plasma Caster as being notable enough to list. Or even the tri-beam laser rifle) ^Skål! 17:41, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I actually have no idea how good they are in New Vegas. I mostly just remember how over-powered they were in Fallout 3 when used against you, and how easily they broke. I have no doubt that they're very powerful in New Vegas as well, especially since Gun Runners allowed you to upgrade them further. ^Skål! 17:53, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thank's man!

You must be one of the good admins! I'll try not to tell a racist-ish joke next time. I really ought to get back to my Fallout 3, though, so I might still not get to use it for a while. But it is a comfort to know it has been lifted and I can use it if I find it necessary.

Thanks again!, Nuke-This-Cola 17:51, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Brock

I got this strange problem. I uploaded the Brock.JPG image and replaced it with the old one. Then I renamed the Brock.JPG to Brock.jpg and the old image appeard. What do I have to do? MS: Destiny conquers all. 18:24, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually, I resolved the problem with success. Although the latter was strange... MS: Destiny conquers all. 18:29, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

You think so? Oh well, I thought it needed to be changed, because the image he was in he didn't look straight. MS: Destiny conquers all. 18:40, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Seriously....

You are now blocking people for what they do off site, even more you then try to bully them here until they do what you want them to do. That to me is just pathetic, childish and immature. I am seriously disappointed in you and your actions at this point, you are essentially governing peoples thoughts and dictating what they can and cant do in there own personal life (regardless of it being either offline or online). What is next, you going to start banning people for what they say in the street or to there friends. Really now, you have no right to tell people what they can and cant do outside this wiki, that is well outside your powers and authority. And I tell you what, while those blocks stand and you continue to bully people, don't be expecting any kind of good faith, support or technical advice from The Vault in future. Because by your actions, this has now turned from a good will relationship to a sour one. If you want to remove my rights from me for speaking out, go ahead cus that will just prove how childish and petty you really are. 20:05, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

As I wrote to Garoux, I would like to believe that your action is not indicative of a change in your policy towards The Vault and its supporters, namely a campaign of rights removal, banning and persecution, though given how hard you cracked down on someone who's largely irrelevant and how Wikia treated Ausir, it's hard to believe. I would like for you to discuss the matter with Garous and Kingclyde. Prefferably publicly and transparently, as a show of good will. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 12:37, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Da vote

If you wouldn't mind, it's the eleventh today, which happens to be the end of Gunny's vote. Could you go bureaucrat on it and close it, thanks? Hugs ^{"Say 'ello to my little friend!"}

Okies, then at least I know you're on it! Hugs ^{"Say 'ello to my little friend!"}

Ausir

You were just an admin, and in case you'd forgotten, most of what is here is thanks to Ausir and Porter. I don't think it was too much to ask for a little good faith whilst he gauged the language wikis opinions. I don't think it's all that different at all. Φύλαξ ^{[~μίλησε μου~]} 22:17, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Phew, that's good. I didn't want to argue with someone else I respected :) Φύλαξ ^{[~μίλησε μου~]} 22:28, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Locations

Before starting my list, this is what I am taking into consideration:

• Either is not sold by merchants, or shows up rarely in a merchant's goods.
• Usefulness and re-sale value.
• Either drops rarely or not at all from all types of enemies.
• This list does not include DLC content, when considering how common vanilla weapons/armour are in them.
• After these points have been taken into consideration, all of the working factors are added together to determine whether the item in question in notable for fixed locations.
• (Only FO3/FO:NV) - Means that the game specified is the only one where the weapon is notable for fixed locations. For instance, miniguns are common in Fallout 3, but extremely rare in Fallout: New Vegas.
• (FO3/FO:NV only weapon/armour) - Means that the weapon/armour is either unique to the game noted in parenthesis, or that the only notable fixed locations are in the game mentioned.

Now, here is the list I compiled of notable weapons and apparel when considering fixes locations and the points I listed above: (This list includes FO3/FO:NV)

-Weapons-

• Silenced 10mm pistol
• Infiltrator (FO3 only weapon)
• Sniper Rifle (Only FO:NV)
• Sawed-off Shotgun (Only FO:NV)
• Minigun (Only FO:NV)
• Gatling Laser (Only FO:NV)
• Tesla Cannon
• Gauss Rifle
• Flamer (Only FO:NV)
• Shiskebab (Only FO:NV)
• Railway Rifle (FO3 only item)
• Deathclaw Gauntlet (Only FO3)
• Fat Man
• Missile Launcher (Only FO:NV)
• Plasma Rifle (Only FO:NV)
• Tri-Beam Laser Rifle (Only FO:NV)
• Bottlecap Mine
• Nuka Grenade (FO3 only weapon)
• Steel Saw (FO3 only weapon)
• Rolling Pin
• 12.7 Pistol (FO:NV only weapon)
• Assault Carbine (FO:NV only weapon)
• Light Machine Gun (FO:NV only weapon)
• Marksman Carbine (FO:NV only weapon)
• Plasma Caster (FO:NV only weapon)
• Recharger Rifle (FO:NV only weapon)
• Multiplas Rifle (FO:NV only weapon)
• Grenade Machinegun (FO:NV only weapon)
• Powder Charge (FO:NV only weapon)
• Time Bomb (FO:NV only weapon)
• Chainsaw (FO:NV only weapon)
• Hatchet (FO:NV only weapon)
• Throwing Knives (FO:NV only weapon)
• Cattle Prod (FO:NV only weapon)
• Throwing Hatchet (FO:NV only weapon)

-Armour-

• I noticed you already compiled a list for this category. Let me know if you would like me to provide a list as well.

-Notes-

• I have exhausted both lists quite thoroughly, and this is what I believe to be the only candidates for weapons/armour worthy of being noted when considering fixed locations. Everything else is either commonly dropped by enemies, is commonly found lying around in the wastes, or is commonly sold by traveling and permanent merchants.
• Let me know if you believe anything should be added or removed. ^Skål! 07:33, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking this should not be a factor as it is subjective to each individual player style->Usefulness. Resale value is good. Just my two-cents. Don't hurt me.--Kingclyde 17:28, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

I categorized usefulness by two extremes, and then ran them under the other points I was considering. So for instance, even though a silenced .22 pistol is found very rarely outside of shops, I would still never consider it as notable, even if it might be useful for stealth characters. But let's look at, say, a plasma caster which is no doubt highly sought after, even by players not fond with energy weapons. Even if a player wouldn't wish to actually use the plasma caster in combat, it still has usefulness in re-sale value or even as a decorative piece in your home. ^Skål! 17:35, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with KC, price should be taken into account, not usefulness. Also, rarity, even if the item lacks usefulness. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 22:15, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Then you're agreeing with me as well. :') I never said usefulness was a singular point I was looking for. If I had taken usefulness alone as reason enough to list a weapon as notable for fixed locations, then my list would have been greatly expanded. Usefulness is only a small factor I that is looked at compared to the other points I mentioned above. Hence, my example of why I didn't add a .22 pistol. Or an AMR. As for price and rarity, if you read back again, you'll see I already listed those as contributing factors. ^Skål! 22:20, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

• There we go! I added in a note in my original message to help clarify matters. ^Skål! 22:26, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lucky Horseshoes again

I kinda forgot about this; I've done now further research and played tons of Lucky Horseshoes matches. I'm certain that the situation when being equally close (example 17-25), the one to get there first has the advantage. I got it all four ways: I got lower first, I got higher first, Festus got lower first, Festus got higher first. In all scenarios the first who got there had the advantage. In given exmple: if you get 17 first, and opponent then gets 25, you've already won; if you get 25 first, and opponent then 17, the opponent must draw more. You told me to edit it, not sure how to type it but I do my best. I don't mind if you edit it afterwards, if you see it better written some otherway. --John Acey 17:36, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon infobox perks not collapsed

Hey, Js. The infobox weapon gamebryo is not correctly collapsing the "perks" section on page load. It is loading it uncollapsed. I've talked to Ghost about this and he believes it's the javascript, as the infobox seems correct. If you don't have a problem with it, I'd like to shoot Grunny a message and ask him to look into it. The Gunny 22:08, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Slider2K's edits

Js, I was wondering if you could maybe talk to User:Slider2k. I had helped him with an edit he desired on a page, but didn't want to do himself. He feels that all his edits get reverted with no explanation. I encouraged him to try to edit again, and that I'd try to keep up with what he's doing. He added a screenshot of what the living anatomy perk shows on the hud to that page, but you removed it. I don't want him to get discouraged again, so maybe you could let him know why you reverted it and help him understand what might be acceptable. If you have the time, I would really appreciate it. Thanks The Gunny 02:13, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Now that you backpedaled, I'm rather intrigued by your work practices. You saw a screenshot with UI on and deleted it outright without paying attention to use context? The worse of all you didn't give a reason for deletion. Sadly I see this behavior from "big count editors" way too often here... and that tires me. Slider2k 19:12, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Image categories

Hey Js, I'm wondering why are pictures of armors like the Enclave PA categorized as FNV armor. I assume it's because they're still in the game files, despite not being normally available? Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 15:24, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

NCR-Great Khan War debate result

Well me and Garoux recently had a debate on when the NCR-Great Khan War started and what it included and the end result we got was to talk to one of the two bureaucrats, so I came to you. Basically, we hoped that initially you would be able to come to a conclusion, but the one we came to was making a page called War on Raiders, which would be akin to the War on Terror page on Wikipedia. Basically this page would have the NCR-Great Khan War merged in to it, but with additional information on the NCR's fights against the Vipers, Jackals and Fiends. So we come to you asking if you approve, if I should make this page and if you can come with any alternative. --Mr. Youtube 01:40, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Cyborgs/Race

Hi J,
I was wondering if you could check the most recent edit to Cross; was just wondering if Cyborg counts as a "Race" for infobox purposes as I think I remember something about Races coming from the GECK... Thanks. Agent c 16:37, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I need help D:

You wouldn't happen to know how to convert an image copied over into a rich text document in a way where I can upload it to a site such as Tinypic? Everything I've tried so far just corrupts the file. ^Skål! 16:44, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm running a social experiment and I had some chat logs I wish to upload. I took some screen prints and I copied them over in a rich text document. Now I'm just looking for a way to upload them to Tinypic so I can link to the screenprints I took. ^Skål! 17:12, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Laser rifle sound mix-up

You seem to know about those in-game sounds so I thought I shall let you know. The laser rifle from FNV article has the wrong firing sound, it plays the F3 one instead. I have no idea how these work so I can't be of much use with audio. --The Leaping Eagle 16:46, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Will do. --The Leaping Eagle 17:03, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

DB

Hey Jspoel! Just a reminder: DragonBorn's chat mod request has concluded. The votes are more... conflicting, so I think a BC should properly make the final call. --Skire (talk) 20:09, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

H:NL

Just letting you know that I reverted your edits to the help page. Many of the items you listed are not unique or rare in any way, and either way, these changes need to be put up for the community to vote on. What counts as notable isn't really up to us. Here are the ones that I have a problem with:

• Shock Baton
• Advanced radiation suit (Fallout 3)
• Pulse mine (Fallout 3)
• Pulse grenade (Fallout 3)
• Advanced radiation suit (Fallout: New Vegas)
• Combat armor, reinforced
• Legion Praetorian armor
• Legion Vexillarius armor
• Mad scientist scrubs
• NCR Ranger combat armor
• NCR salvaged power armor
• Recon armor (Fallout: New Vegas)
• Scientist scrubs
• T-45d power armor (Fallout: New Vegas)
• Valence radii-accentuator
• Vault 19 jumpsuit
• Proton axe
• Scientist glove
• Lever-action shotgun
• Arc welder (Fallout: New Vegas)
• Bumper sword
• Satchel charge
• Saturnite fist
• Cowboy repeater
  • Some of these I'm very surprised at. Such as the pulse grenade or the cowboy repeater, which are extremely common, whether you're considering merchants, loot, or drops. Others are an infinite resource and quite easy to obtain. I'm looking at items such as the saturnite fist or the radiation suit. ^Skål! 21:31, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just trying to be careful. We have a lot of users these days talking about how we're just making up rules as we go, and I want to prove them wrong. At the moment, fixed locations and valuable items aren't in our policies as factors that contribute into what we consider notable loot or now. As for the list you came up with, I am mostly in agreement with what you have added. But I believe we should have limits on what we should consider as notable for fixed locations. For instance, there are no nail boards found just lying around in New Vegas, I believe. I would never consider it notable to list though if there turned out to be 1 or 2 places where you might find one. The 9-iron is another good example. I believe there are only 3 fixed locations for this weapon. But it's a crappy weapon still, and it doesn't belong in the notable loot section. I think we need to ask these questions first:

• How rare is the item sold by merchants?
• What tier item is it?
• Is there only a limited amount of this item?
• Is it unique?

Once we ask ourselves these questions, I believe we can properly judge which items are of note. ^Skål! 23:52, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

NCR-Raiders War

I have created the NCR-Raiders War page, but do we merge the NCR-Great Khans page or do we have a link connecting both pages? --Mr. Youtube 22:42, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Patroller request

Hey J. You know, I was thinking: We have mandatory admin endorsements for chat mod applicants, what if we implement an admin endorsement for patrollers? I think it would work much better since a few admins keep an eye on editors and those with aptitude and potential, while it might escape a bureaucrat's eyes. This way we ensure our patrollers are of higher quality (some people now haven't worked enough for them). Let me know what you think (: --Skire (talk) 00:59, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

On a related note, have we considered giving the interwiki guys patroller rights so their edits will show up patrolled? The Gunny 01:13, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Patrollers kinda have an admin endorsement by definition, as the B/c has to decide to approve or not approve. Agent c 01:22, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Reiteration: "I think it would work much better since a few admins keep an eye on editors and those with aptitude and potential, while it might escape a bureaucrat's eyes." --Skire (talk) 01:26, May 15, 2012 (UTC)