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Sincerely, -- The Gunny (Talk) 02:53, 19 December 2012

The Surgeon

Hi. Thanks for your edit, but keep in mind we do not cover any mods on our articles. See you around! --Skire (talk) 02:57, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Button Gwinnett

There are a lot of things you can't do in the game, and therefore they are not worthy of mention, unless there is a particular significance about not being able to perform a certain action. Is there any reason a player should expect Button to be able to be sent back to the docking station? --Skire (talk) 19:39, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

I suppose I can see your point in that. You're free to add the note back, maybe with a little rephrasing so it is less verbose. --Skire (talk) 20:41, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Couple questions

Hi! In response to your queries posted on my talk page:

Regarding external links: They are only to be used when necessary and relevant. FW:C is quite clear on the matter of relevance. Also, in practice external links are almost always used for real-world articles (e.g. actors/actresses, developers etc.).
Regarding Abraham Washington: I did not sell him those items and they are stashed somewhere in my cluttered Megaton house. Perhaps you could try checking in-game or asking another user who might be able to help? I apologise for not being able to assist you with this.

Please, if you have any other questions, do let me know. --Skire (talk) 16:32, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

VAX

It is confirmed that many facets of Wasteland are referenced in futher Fallout games.

I don't see any problem with your second edit, it's fine now. Thank you for the contrib. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 06:03, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it would seem odd that a real world supercomputer series named VAX were never heard of by the game authors. Alatari (talk) 06:05, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

C. Gordon Bell was the lead developer of the precursor PDP machines and instructor of the student who developed the VAX architecture and Fallout 3 has the first man in orbit as C. Bell. Would be nice if the developers were paying some homage being computer geeks and all. Alatari (talk) 06:09, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Research Lead "B. Bell" is a reference to Fear Factory's lead vocalist, Burton C. Bell. More than one C. Bell is referenced... Coincidences. Alatari (talk) 06:32, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Exorcist

The resemblance is slightly there, but it isn't nearly conclusive enough to say that. We have to tread carefully with speculation that isn't blatantly obvious. If you're looking for things to edit, start small! Since we're very far in to editing our articles since the last game release, there's not a lot of references we didn't catch and confirm.--TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 17:04, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what is going on...

But that note contained speculation, so removed a part of it. Energy X 09:55, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Please leave the note out. It's not even accurate. 69.125.134.190 10:32, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

I went into the files and edited them, then went to the save game and snuck up on her. The note is now accurate without speculation. What the programmers wanted is unsure. Either she was to be a cannibal or she is to drop flesh like other ants, we'll never know what they intended. Adding the flesh as inventory was likely faster and easier than scripting a death item. Alatari (talk) 10:37, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

You're right. We don't know what the programmer's wanted, so we can only speculate, but we're not going to do so in the article. As for the death item, I have to disagree, as it would take about five seconds for them to make one for her. I added the human flesh to her inventory, so her article should be fine now. 69.125.134.190 10:44, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

My forum edits

It's a matter of maintenance; to get rid of redirects. There are uppercapped pages mentioned on forum such as Lincoln's Hat. But we have it downcapped (Lincoln's hat). So if I want to get rid of it I change it to Lincoln's hat on the forum page. Then after I update all links, I can remove the Lincoln's Hat as a redirect. You can see in the deletion log I already did a bunch. Jspoel 23:04, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I updated the link on your talkpage. Select the deletion log and you'll see what I've done. You could help but it's tricky work and requires some dedication, experience, insight and sharpness. And available time preferably. Are you already up for that? Jspoel

23:13, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'll leave some explanation on your talkpage tomorrow, then you can decide for yourself when you have time. It's rather dull work to be honest, but I'd like to see it done because the results will pay off in the end. Jspoel

23:27, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

(←) Go to Special:Allpages and click on the entry that begins with F. Continue and go to Fallout 3 Achievements and Trophies. We downcap most things here so that page is a redirect. You can spot it's a redirect when it's empasized. Normal pages are displayed normally. So Fallout 3 Achievements and Trophies goes to Fallout 3 achievements and trophies. Now we need a tool called Special:Whatlinkshere, which you should add to your My Tools toolbar at the bottom of your page. Go to Customize, Popular Tools and select WhatLinksHere. After that you will see it added to My Tools, left of Customize. After you clicked on Fallout 3 Achievements and Trophies it will go to the normal page, at the top you will see in blue the redirect displayed. Click on that to go to the redirect. Then go to My Tools and use WhatLinksHere. You'll see that True Mortal and Devil have a link to the uppercap version. Go to both pages. Edit True Mortal, search for Fallout 3 Achievements and Trophies and change it to Fallout 3 achievements and trophies. Do the same for True Mortal. Now you have removed all redirects and the redirect, Fallout 3 Achievements and Trophies can be deleted for maintenance purposes. You can't delete pages but you can add a {{delete}} tag to the page. That will put it in the delete category and I can delete it from there. Because you're new, best stick to the easy ones for now. I've checked that Fallout 3 A... etc. has a lot of unneeded uppercapped redirects, so it should relatively smooth. If you're not sure, skip them. You don't have to do locations. We make an exception for those and consider both version more or less acceptable. Give it a try. Jspoel 18:20, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hey thanks! I deleted the pages you marked. Some pages you can't edit, like the blogs. Also some protected pages. You can skip those, I'll fix them later on. Good work! Jspoel

15:01, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Survivors

Are we disputing if they are newcomers? I'm not looking for an argument, they are referred to as 'survivors' but even I would say they are newcomers, but the article says they seem to be unlucky wastelanders and raiders and overpowered by the still-potent drugs, which is evidenced by the Lone Wanderer hallucinating. Because we can't truly know either way despite which side is more favorable, we shouldn't assume, so when the drugs were introduced doesn't matter and the information about the experiment can be found on the Vault 106. I see you're point though, and at least you took the time to write to me with your concerns, we'll be accused of edit warring if we continue to much so if I make one more amendment I hope you find it suitable. No bad feelings? :-) -- ^Talk! 15:29, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

"And" can start a sentence when used sparingly and in the proper context, agreed one must be careful but the rule isn't set in stone. Next, the article is referring specifically to the "Insane survivors" hence the name, to have a note designated to say something specifically referring to events in the vaults history without linking it to something relevant on the page means it shouldn't be there or should be accordingly. Also, I don't appreciate your tone, I have been respectful to you and you talk back as if you are better simply because of the amount of time you've spent on wiki's, so again, I appreciate what you are saying, but at least try to acknowledge my input. -- ^Talk! 16:02, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I assure you I am not trying to insult you, I don't consider you a vandal or anonymous, nor do I have you noted as someone who needs checking all the time, and any undo's that may have happened in the past have not come back to me as wrong. I do not doubt your education or work experience so please do not try to use it to big up your ego or suggest I am bullying or immature or arrogant. In any case, I put to you that your argument is misplaced with me, I'm following the form of the pages content, so unless you are going to change that yourself, and you are welcome to, please refrain from expressing your concerns over it to me.

Also, there have been discussions over this issue in the past in the so I can only assume the content is acceptable as it is. So disregarding 'tone', I don't consider myself better than any other editor and the fact I have been enlisted as a patroller shouldn't make you assume what I say and do is an insult or abuse of a position, so can we at least come to some sort of ceasefire? -- ^Talk! 16:34, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Look, as I said, I'm not intentionally trying to make myself appear better when I change something, so please don't take it that way, okay, granted an undo may have been unnecessary, but like I said, I am obliged to keep it in form with what's on the page even if evidence lies more favorably to one conclusion. You are welcome to start up a new discussion about it, I agree with what you are saying.

I don't know why they weren't either, though admittedly I hadn't noticed, in any case it looks okay to me, if there's something that does come up that'd be something for me to note for next time (I know you don't see me as the be all and end all, and nor do I!), but neither of us are learners so to speak, so I hope we can work more fruitfully in the future and on more friendly terms! I can see you are a good editor, you put the effort in and what you do is productive, I just hope we're okay now. -- ^Talk! 17:31, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

FEV

Yes, that's a good starting point. I'll do everything before that (D, E) Jspoel 16:35, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

If you can find more information about FDR Island on terminal entries pages etc. (game content) maybe you could create a page but I doubt there's more information than the name on a map. That wouldn't be enough. Jspoel

17:35, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

You want to delete to much. I think I'm going to restore Fo3 and Fo2 and these kind of page which maybe be entered in a search bar. Better stick to uppercap problems I think. Now you're fixing links on userpages which aren't important like changing FN FAL to FN FAL (Fallout 2). Jspoel

20:40, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

AP changes

Why are you making changes like re-naming the FN FAL article-page to FN FAL (Fallout 2)? The FN FAL only appears in Fallout 2, making the little extra there at the end completely unnecessary. Also, you don't need to completely make a new article-page just to de-cap article-pages as you did with FN FAL (Night Sight). There is function you can use by clicking the arrow next to the edit button that allows editors to re-name a page without going through the hassle of creating a new page and putting up a delete template for Administrators to go through later. That's just creating a lot of extra work. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:13, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

My apologies, then. It looks like I'm going to have to go through those pages, as well. As for help, that would be appreciated. I notified a couple of our bot handlers, but a little manual help will help their jobs go by faster later on.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:37, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

The Bozar appears in New Vegas, as well, making the (Fallout 2) tag appropriate. As for the M60, I'm not 100% sure. Let me check my references first.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:38, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Not bad. It's been a while since even I have been putting in at least 100 edits a day. I'll get the bots to work on the pages I'm deleting and the redirects you've been pointing out.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:42, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

It shouldn't be a problem. I have the deletion log list at hand, and the bots can run through each article-page to check for errors regarding the red-links made with the deletion of those pages. I would estimate that with the list I have, it probably won't take by 20-30 minutes to clear them all.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:48, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

Why the hell are you tagging so many articles for deletion? 19:07, October 8, 2013 (UTC)