Owyn Lyons

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Owyn Lyons
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Biography and appearance
RaceHuman, Caucasian
GenderMale
Hair StyleBald with full beardHair ColorWhite
Eye ColorGray
AffiliationLyons' Brotherhood of Steel
RoleLeader
RankPaladin (formerly)
Elder
LocationCitadel
FamilySarah Lyons (daughter)
Dialogue FileOwyn Lyons' dialogue
Gameplay
Mentioned inFallout 4
QuestsThe Waters of Life
Picking Up the Trail
Take it Back!
Death From Above
aggressionUnaggressive
confidenceFoolhardy
assistanceHelps friends and allies
Statistics
AlignmentVery Good
SPECIALStrength: 5
Perception: 7
Endurance: 6
Charisma: 4
Intelligence: 3
Agility: 6
Luck: 4
Derived StatsHit Points: 150
Fatigue: 50
Critical chance: 5
Melee damage: 2
Unarmed damage: 0.75
Damage resistance: 0
Poison resistance: 20
Radiation resistance: 8
Tag SkillsBrotherhood of Steel Soldier
Small Guns
Big Guns
Energy Weapons
Level25
Technical
Editor IDElderLyons
Base ID000156e4 (Citadel)
xx00e27a (Sacred Bog hallucination)
Ref ID000210e6 (Citadel)
Editor FactionsBrotherhoodSteelFaction
CitadelResidentFaction
ActorWilliam Bassett
 
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When I came here, I realized for the first time that the Brotherhood's technology could truly save the survivors in this Wasteland. I chose to help them, even if it meant putting the Brotherhood's interests at risk. Some of my soldiers called me a hero. Others called me a traitor.

Owyn Lyons, Fallout 3

Elder Owyn Lyons (born 2202) was the leader of Lyons' Brotherhood of Steel until his death, his daughter Sarah becoming the next Elder.

Background[edit | edit source]

Lyons was born in 2202,[1] and was originally a Brotherhood of Steel Paladin stationed at the Lost Hills bunker in South California. In 2254 the Brotherhood's ruling council decided to send a contingent of soldiers to the East Coast, to scour the ruins of east coast cities and bases for technology. A small but hardened contingent of Brotherhood of Steel soldiers, led by Paladin Lyons (and accompanied by his three year-old daughter Sarah, friend and technological adviser Scribe Rothchild, as well as Star Paladin Cross, Paladin Henry Casdin, Initiate Ishmael Ashur, Paladin Tristan, Knight Captain Colvin and Paladin Gunny) set out from Lost Hills and began the long trek east to what was once Washington, D.C.

On their way during their journey to the Capital Wasteland, the Brotherhood's expeditionary force came across the ruins of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. In a single night, the Brotherhood swept through the city from their staging area at Mount Wash, eliminating any resident who put up a fight. The intent of the Scourge remains unclear, however several unmutated children were taken from The Pitt by the Brotherhood and placed into initiate training. The motivations for the Scourge remain unclear, but many in the Brotherhood note that it was a marked change in the way the Brotherhood operates. Additionally, it is known that something was recovered from The Pitt during the Scourge, although to date it would seem that only Elder Lyons knows what it was.[2]

Lyons' group finally arrived in the Capital Wasteland in 2255, establishing a base of operations within the Pentagon in the first few months.[3] Though the Pentagon was largely destroyed its sub-levels remained intact and its stockpiles contained undisturbed pre-War technology and weaponry to sustain their operations. The crown jewel was Liberty Prime,[4] a technological marvel that, if restored, could help the Brotherhood of Steel rebuild a strength and reputation that had been declining steadily for years. The discovery of Liberty Prime earned Paladin Lyons a battlefield promotion to Elder, and a new directive from his superiors in Southern California – to establish a new, permanent Brotherhood base in the Capital Wasteland, and continue the search for any other advanced technology hidden in the former capital city’s ruins.

Shortly after their arrival, Lyons' scouts have identified a new threat in the area: a peculiar breed of super mutants, infesting the deserted ruins of downtown D.C. Concerned by their presence and convinced that they are the primary threat to the Wasteland, Lyons initiated a protracted campaign of aggression to exterminate them.[5] At the same time, Lyons lent assistance to James and Catherine, a pair of scientists attempting to build a mass-scale purifier, intending to supply the wasteland with a virtually inexhaustible source of fresh, purified water, reducing their dependence on local purification methods. But Project Purity failed to take off, despite the Brotherhood's involvement . Frustrated, Lyons withdrew his forces, leaving the Project to fend for himself. It died shortly after, together with Catherine, James wife.[6]

The newly appointed Elder decided, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that the super mutants were a threat not just to the Brotherhood and their scouts in D.C., but all the people in the Wasteland.[4] Thus, he began to direct resources towards fighting the mutants, gradually reducing the importance of fulfilling the primary mission objective, that is, recovering technology.

With the conflict straining his resources, Lyons attempted to persuade the West Coast, for several years to send reinforcements and supplies, claiming to be following the mission objectives, but in secret, he continued to order his subordinates to save people by killing super mutants. However, no lie can be sustained indefinitely. Things came to a head when Lyons outright refused to follow a direct order from the Elders. In response, the West Coast swiftly cut him loose, shutting off communications and denying any and all reinforcements. By 2277 there was no communication between the Lyons' chapter and Brotherhood HQ for years.[7]

The conflict with the Super Mutants dragged on for years, straining resources and manpower to the breaking point. Without the Brotherhood's support, the situation became progressively worse. However, Lyons' men continued to stick with him and follow his orders, primarily out of the doctrine of loyalty the Brotherhood taught them from birth.[8] However, there were soldiers under his command dissatisfied with Lyons' focus on protecting the wastes by killing supermutants, seeing it as an ineffectual waste of men and resources that would ultimately destroy the Brotherhood. The situation gradually worsened, finally tipping when Elder Lyons ignored their repeated requests to recover tech from Fort Independence, a pre-War scientific military base.[9] Rallying behind Paladin Henry Casdin,[10] the dissenters abandoned Lyons' command and left the Citadel, taking a large part of its weapons and equipment stockpiles with them.[11][12] The loss of men and materiel had a significant negative impact on the combat performance of Lyons' chapter, greatly reducing its ability to project power throughout the Capital Wasteland.[10]

As such, Lyons' Brotherhood began 2277 as a diminished, weakened force, suffering from a shortage of qualified combat personnel and severely depleted stocks of weapons and equipment. As a result, the Brotherhood has limited presence outside the Citadel, with only a handful of reinforced outposts scattered across the Washington metropolitan area, making Elder Lyons incredibly tired by his inability to act.[13][14][15][16] Lyons would eventually pass away around 2278, leaving behind leadership to his daughter Sarah Lyons.[17]

Personality[edit | edit source]

Elder Lyons has a powerful, charismatic personality and is one of the key factors keeping his chapter together. He cares for his men, but has several character flaws: he can be petty, banning any and all mention of the Outcasts in the Citadel after their departure,[11][12] or threatening others with violence, particularly when they refuse to answer a query.[18]

Relationships[edit | edit source]

His daughter, Sarah Lyons, is a member of the Brotherhood with the unique rank of Sentinel. Reginald Rothchild is an old friend of Elder Lyons.

Daily schedule[edit | edit source]

As the leader of Lyons' Brotherhood of Steel, Lyons spends most of his day in the Citadel Lab, A-Ring or B-Ring. He regularly converses with the Scribes Rothchild, Bowditch and Peabody on their various projects. In addition, he checks up on the progress on the Brotherhood's major project, rebuilding Liberty Prime, and supervises the armory as well as the smithy. When he is not working in the Citadel Lab, he is usually eating in the A-Ring's Great Hall, studying in his room in B-Ring or sleeping.

Interactions with the player character[edit | edit source]

Interactions overview[edit | edit source]

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Quests[edit | edit source]

Other interactions[edit | edit source]

  • Elder Lyons can grant the player permission for training in the use of power armor with Paladin Gunny.
  • Elder Lyons can grant the player permission for trading with the Citadel's quartermaster, Knight Captain Durga.
  • Elder Lyons will pay the player 100 caps and good karma for any information on super mutants. The first piece of information can be found when exploring Vault 87, and discovering that it is a breeding ground for super mutants, though it is suspected that speaking to Uncle Leo about the "metal place" is required for the Lone Wanderer to figure out what Vault 87 really is. Other pieces can be obtained from Uncle Leo.

Effects of player actions[edit | edit source]

  • Choosing to destroy the Citadel in Who Dares Wins results in Owyn Lyons' death.

Inventory[edit | edit source]

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Apparel
Elder Lyons' robe
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Weapon
Elder Lyons' non-player Laser pistol (Base ID: b4178)
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Carried items
-
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Drops on death
Brotherhood of Steel holotag

Notes[edit | edit source]

  • Owyn is 5' 8" (1.73 m).
  • Three holodisks called Elder Owyn Lyons -- Personal Logs can be found in the Citadel Lab and Lyons' quarters in the B-Ring.
  • Elder Lyons appears floating face up in the Sacred Bog during the hallucination that occurs while intoxicated by Punga seeds in Point Lookout.
  • When you ask him if he knows anything else about the super mutants after you tell him they are coming from Vault 87, he will say "You seemed to have learned more than I have in the past two weeks then I have in 20 years!", regardless of how long you've been out of Vault 101 and how long ago you told him about Vault 87. This is because when you break out of captivity from the Enclave, you have been held for two weeks, according to Three Dog's radio broadcast.
  • He is ready to give up his command of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel to his daughter, Sarah, as read in one of his terminal entries.
  • Other scribes can often be found sleeping in Elder Lyons' bed.

Notable quotes[edit | edit source]

  • "Pledge in your hearts and minds, pledge by your guns that you will stand with them in battle until the end, trust each of them with your life."

  • "You dare spill blood on this sacred ground!?"

  • "I cannot -- I will not -- allow the Enclave to control the one thing that could bring even the slightest spark of hope to these people."
  • "When I came here, I realized for the first time that the Brotherhood's technology could truly save the survivors in this Wasteland. I chose to help them, even if it meant putting the Brotherhood's interests at risk. Some of my soldiers called me a hero. Others called me a traitor."
  • "Here I sit, in the safety of the Citadel, while the people of the Wasteland thirst, and suffer, and die. Here I sit, a failed, feeble old man."
  • "Sarah may have forgotten she's a woman, but I haven't, and neither have the rest of the Brothers, judging by the looks they give her." (In Elder Lyons's personal terminal, article Sarah's Birthday)
  • "Then it's decided, Sarah, you take the Pride and use the Robot as support. Take our friend here and secure that purifier."

  • "When I first met you some time ago, I was leery of your motivations and even more concerned with your methods. At the battle for Project Purity you proved yourself... and any doubt I had about you dissipated on that day. Now with the Enclave in ruins and you to thank for it, I'm almost at a complete loss for words. I feel proud to call you one of our own, and I promise what you've done here today will be recorded by our scribes as a historic moment. On behalf of the Brotherhood of Steel and on behalf of the free people of this wasteland, I thank you."
  • "Our orders were, and are, to acquire any and all advanced technology. And we have, to the best of our abilities. Unfortunately, my superiors back west disagree with my assessment of the situation. They feel I've grown too "attached" to the local populace."
  • "Steel be with you."
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Behind the scenes[edit | edit source]

I likened Elder Lyons's situation to that of the Vault Dweller in Fallout. Both of them were raised in an insular, xenophobic, technologically advanced society, were cast out of that society on a mission to find some important tech, and found themselves alone and in control of their destiny for the first time. And like the Vault Dweller ( at least, the Vault Dweller on my saved games ), he displayed that all-too human trait of compassion and went about helping people.

I think a lot of what kept the Brotherhood how the Brotherhood was, dogmatic, secretive, and so on, was their group-imposed isolation. Once you send a contingent out into the wastes, away from that continual feedback of norms and values, people are bound to start making up their own minds about things.

Ricardo Gonzalez

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Appearances[edit | edit source]

Owyn Lyons appears in Fallout 3 and Fallout Shelter as a legendary vault dweller, and is only mentioned in Fallout 4.

References[edit source]

  1. Fallout 3 Official Game Guide Game of the Year Edition p.71: "Elder Owyn Lyons
    Lyons, 75, was already highly decorated when he set out from the order's West Coast headquarters, leading a party of soldiers on a mission to reestablish contact with the "Eastern Brotherhood." He discovered this abandoned Pentagon military complex. The presence of Super Mutants sent a chill up the collective spine of the Brotherhood; these weren't the children of the dreaded Master, nor were they the remnants of the band that fled east and were ultimately destroyed (or assimilated into the Brotherhood of Steel) in the Chicago area. No, this was a new breed of Super Mutant, one with a local origin. But where did they come from? What did they want? How were they reproducing? Elder Lyons was ordered to discover the source of this new Super Mutant infestation and wipe it from the face of the earth. Recent weeks have seen him galvanize his "Pride" to thwart the remnants of the Enclave forces, and to provide drinking water to all."
    (Fallout 3 Official Game Guide Game of the Year Edition Wasteland Census)
  2. Fallout 3 Official Game Guide Game of the Year Edition p.43-44:
    "Pitt Raiders
    Pitt Slaves
    Trogs
    Wildmen

    Following the Great War, survivors established a settlement on the remains of a city at the confluence of rivers. The rivers seem to provide a clear resource, and enough of the city was cleared by the bombs that a new settlement could be established. However, radioactive material and unidentified mutagens mixed into the groundwater, causing it to become slightly mutagenic and highly carcinogenic. As a result, the people in the new settlement began to change ever so slightly.
    The changes were subtle, not nearly to the degree of the Super Mutants or the various Wasteland creatures, but over the next 140 years, it became undeniable that something was affecting the people of The Pitt. Starting from the first few years, children were often born with strange growths or extra vestigial limbs. The mutations never went far beyond the occasional hunchback or cleft palate, but it wasn't long before the vast majority of the residents of The Pitt developed some sort of physical deformity in their lifetimes. Although many children were born "clean," the older they got, the more likely that a problem would develop.
    The most disturbing change that the environment caused was not nearly as noticeable as the physical deformities. The infected water and poisoned sky began to cause neurological damage to those exposed to it. People became more hostile, violent, and short-tempered; they became known as "Wildmen." Their emotions became out of control, and their actions often teetered on primal. In severe cases, mutated humans devolved into hunched, savage beasts nicknamed "Trogs." Over the first 50 years, The Pitt quickly degenerated into a dangerous den of murderers and rapists; even cannibalism was not uncommon. The only loyalty was in strength, and the only organization was between those who were strong enough to control others and those who were controlled.
    Rumors of the horrors of The Pitt spread throughout the Wasteland, and all travelers knew to avoid it at all costs. However, The Pitt became one of the most self-sufficient communities in the Wastes. Granted, their self-sufficiency relied on the citizens occasionally eating one another, but they functioned without trade or export.
    In 2042Quoted verbatim, error appeared in the original sourceIcon sic.png, Star Paladin Lyons of the Brotherhood of Steel led the Scourge, a large-scale military action that wiped out nearly the entire population of The Pitt. In a single night, the Brotherhood swept through the city, eliminating any resident who put up a fight. Although the intent of the Scourge remains unclear, several unmutated children were taken from The Pitt by the Brotherhood and placed into initiate training. The motivations for the Scourge are unclear to this day, but many in the Brotherhood note that it was a marked change in the way the Brotherhood operates. Additionally, it is known that something was recovered from The Pitt during the Scourge, although to date it would seem that only Elder Lyons knows what it was.
    It is said that a Brotherhood of Steel Paladin from the Scourge stayed on in The Pitt, seeking to bring law and order to the unwashed masses and creating an underclass of Pitt Slaves in the process, guarded by Pitt Raiders under his personal command. However, in the decades following the events of the Scourge, nobody has heard anything from The Pitt. Travelers who have gone to investigate have not returned, and no survivors have emerged."
    (Fallout 3 Official Game Guide faction profiles)
  3. The Lone Wanderer: "How long have you been here?"
    Reginald Rothchild: "We arrived here in '55. Established ourselves in the Citadel within the first few months. The Elder has kept us busy since then."
    (Reginald Rothchild's dialogue)
  4. 4.0 4.1 The Lone Wanderer: "What kind of changes?"
    Reginald Rothchild: "We were dispatched with a specific mission. We were sent to locate and secure any technology remaining from before the war. Like our robotic monstrosity. That was our greatest find. Damn thing still doesn't work, but at least it's ours. But those damned Super Mutants... They changed things. Lyons changed. He decided they were a threat. Not just to us, but to everyone. And so he altered the mission. Finding the source of the mutants and putting a stop to them was his goal. Our original mission became an afterthought. We've failed both."
    (Reginald Rothchild's dialogue)
  5. The Lone Wanderer: "How long have you been here?"
    Owyn Lyons: "It's been over twenty years since we arrived. And we've been struggling to contain and eradicate the Super Mutants for nearly as long. With the arrival of the Enclave, I have a terrible feeling the Super Mutants are the least of our worries."
    (Owyn Lyons' dialogue)
  6. The Lone Wanderer: "What about the Brotherhood's history in this area?"
    Elizabeth Jameson: "We first arrived in the Capital Wasteland in 2255. In those first couple of years, we discovered the Citadel, Super Mutants, and Project Purity! Ah, the purifier. What an undertaking. The work your father and his team did was... amazing. The Brotherhood helped protect them, you know. At least for a little while. But we were stretched thin as it was, even back then. We had to pull our forces out. When we did, the place was overrun. I imagine that's when your father left. I... I'm sorry, I wish things had turned out differently."
    (Elizabeth Jameson's dialogue)
  7. The Lone Wanderer: "You make saving people sound like a bad thing."
    Reginald Rothchild: "It wasn't why we were sent here. Good or bad has nothing to do with it. Lyons knew that, but ignored it. He decided it was more important to save the people here than to obey orders from his superiors. For years he'd try and persuade them to send reinforcements and supplies, all the while stringing them along, saying he was sticking to the mission. Finally, things came to a head. Lyons directly refused orders, and so the West Coast cut us off. No communications, no reinforcements."
    The Lone Wanderer: "Why, what happened?"
    Reginald Rothchild: "Lines of communication were severed years ago. The Western Elders have washed their hands of us."
    (Reginald Rothchild's dialogue)
  8. The Lone Wanderer: "What do you mean by "repercussions"?"
    Reginald Rothchild: "Some did not approve of the Elder's decisions. Initially, they followed because we are all taught to follow the Elders."
    (Reginald Rothchild's dialogue)
  9. The Lone Wanderer: "What sort of disagreements did they have?"
    Bowditch: "Where Elder Lyons has fought to protect the people of the Capital Wasteland, the Outcasts demanded we move on and leave them to their fates. They insisted there was more important technology to be recovered in a scientific base in the ruins of Fort Independence, to the West. As callous as their decision may be, it's more in line with our original mission. Elder Lyons is an inspiration to us, but to them he's a traitor."
    (Bowditch's dialogue)
  10. 10.0 10.1 The Lone Wanderer: "Who were the exiles?"
    Bowditch: "The soldiers rallied behind Paladin Casdin, who was one of Elder Lyons' original squad. They served together for over twenty years. Casdin was well-respected, and every bit as loyal to the Brotherhood as Elder Lyons. He just disagreed with the interpretations of our oaths. But when disagreements turned into fistfights, he left with the Outcasts. We lost more allies that day than we ever have to any battle."
    (Bowditch's dialogue)
  11. 11.0 11.1 Peabody: "Good morning, Elder. I'm sorry to report that things are not as they should be. Ever since Casdin was outcast..."
    Owyn Lyons: "That name is not to be spoken within this Citadel. Do you understand? I wish it were not so, truly I do, but he is Outcast. He has been judged."
    Peabody: "I know the protocols, sir. But the equipment that they stole was very valuable. Our weapons are beginning to deteriorate without the spare parts."
    Owyn Lyons: "I understand, Peabody. But you'll need to make do the best you can. If our weapons can't penetrate that Enclave armor, we stand no chance."
    Peabody: "Yes, Elder. I understand. I'm sure... we've got the parts around here somewhere..."
    (Peabody's and Owyn Lyons' dialogue)
  12. 12.0 12.1 Peabody: "Greetings, Elder. I wish I could say that things were well. Unfortunately, I am still having supply problems. When Casdin..."
    Oywn Lyons: "Scribe. You are not to speak the name of an Outcast in the walls of the Citadel. Is that understood?"
    Peabody: "I... I understand, sir. But the Outcasts have stolen a great deal of our uncatalogued equipment. I am beginning to run short of supplies for repairs."
    Owyn Lyons: "Then make do with what you have. We may lack the Enclave's resources, but I'm counting on your ingenuity to make up for that!"
    Peabody: "Yes, Elder. I understand. Forgive me for speaking out of turn. My... frustration got the better of me."
    (Peabody's and Owyn Lyons' dialogue)
  13. The Lone Wanderer: "Anything you can tell me about the Super Mutants?"
    Owyn Lyons: "Would you believe... "no"? It's pathetic, really, considering we've been fighting those abominations for nearly twenty years. In all that time, all we've managed to do is contain the threat. Hold them back, so they don't overrun every blasted settlement out here. But we don't really "know" anything. Where they're from, why they've infested the D.C. ruins. And now here we are, holed up in our Citadel. Low on resources, low on troops. It's enough to make an old man so very... tired."
    (Owyn Lyons' dialogue)
  14. The Lone Wanderer: "Those sound like pretty good changes to me."
    Reginald Rothchild: "You're an outsider. I don't expect you to understand. We live and die by our dedication to the Brotherhood. To go against orders... It's not something that's done. I appreciate that Lyons believes he is doing what is right, but he should never have disobeyed orders. And now look where it's gotten us. Forces dwindled, Super Mutants on one side, Enclave on the other. We can barely take care of ourselves."
    (Reginald Rothchild's dialogue)
  15. The Lone Wanderer: "What does the Brotherhood believe?"
    Elizabeth Jameson: "We believe in technology, in the triumph of the creations of the ancients over the horrors and evils of the Wasteland. We believe in trust. Trust in technology. Trust in our fellow Brothers. Trust in our Elders. Ah, and we believe in victory. Our forces have dwindled, but still we fight on. Super Mutant, Enclave, it matters not. Surrender is not an option."
    (Elizabeth Jameson's dialogue)
  16. The Lone Wanderer: "You must see a lot of things. What's been going on?"
    Artemis: "What's been going on? Well, let's see. For years, we've been draining our resources defending the ungrateful residents of this no man's land. Most of my best friends have either been ripped apart by Super Mutants or left to join the Outcasts. And now an enemy we faced more than thirty years ago has resurfaced, and their tech is still better than ours. What's been going on with you?"
    (Artemis' dialogue)
  17. Prydwen terminals; Proctor Quinlan's Terminal, The Rise of Elder Maxson
  18. The Lone Wanderer: "I don't have to explain anything. I don't answer to you."
    Owyn Lyons: "When we're done, I may just string you up from your precious purifier. Clearly we need to revise our strategy..."
    (Owyn Lyons' dialogue)