Talk:Baseball bat cork core
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Gloria Van Graff is DEAD.
I killed her. So.... I'm sure there are other vendors. Right?--Felix Brehh 20:23, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
Reference to M-L Baseball?
Why do the references to Sosa and Hatcher keep showing up? They aren't mentioned in the game. The only thing that is certain is that adding a cork core to a bat changes some of its characteristics for the better. While the reference is historically interesting, it's not notable from the perspective of the Fallout universe. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 05:33, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
There are many 'Behind the Scenes' comments scattered throughout the Vault's pages. Everything from who Blind Diode Jefferson was named after to the controversy over maple baseball bats, (see the appropriate pages). The comments about MLB scandals explain the sarcastic humor behind the mod to those who don't know much about American professional baseball.DarthOrc 04:19, October 13, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc
- The mentioning of the exact players is still unneccesary. Mentioning the intended function of the cork core is enough. Message 04:21, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
Naming famous players connected with cork cores is just as valid as naming the singer of songs used in the game, (see pages about songs). Many of the singers aren't mentioned in the game either.DarthOrc 04:46, October 14, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc
- No, it's not. They're actually performing the songs and filling a purpose in the game, in difference to, e.g. Sosa or Hatcher. Neither of them fills any role in the game what so ever, and the only connection they have is a weak, coincidental, one. We don't add every person who's used a silencer on any page about any silencer mod, do we? "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
While mentioning the names of the players may not be absolutely necessary, if it were not for the scandal, few would have heard of cork cored bats, which could have affected the decision to create the mod in the first place.DarthOrc 08:12, October 15, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc
- But--and this is the crucial point--you don't know for sure. Many things could have gone through the minds of the designers, but the line must be drawn somewhere. Personally, I think this energy would be better spent cleaning up poorly-written copy, completing InfoBox entries, or something.... — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 19:07, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
Since when is your "crucial Point" relevant? This is a behind the scenes entry, not the main body of the page. Behind the scene comments often contain speculation, as a case in point, the speculation about Blind Diode Jefferson being a reference to Blind lemon Jefferson. (We haven't seen any comments about that.)DarthOrc 10:33, October 16, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc
- In most cases, where the opinion on it is unanimous, as in the case of Blind Diode Jefferson, we keep it in the article. To use that example; "Blind Diode Jefferson" and real life Jefferson share both the majority of each other's names and type of voice, musical genres, as well as Diode mimicking the real Mr Jefferson's personality. As for the cork core, those were around before the scandal itself, just not as well known. Another example of this is the M29 .44 Magnum revolver. It was around for long before Dirty Harry, but he made it famous. Do we include Dirty Harry in all .44 Magnum articles? No. "Say 'ello to my little friend!"
- "Behind the scenes" information in the form of cultural references is acceptable page content only when there are direct visual or textual correlations.
There is no direct visual or textual correlations with the named player, so therefore it stays out. This is no different than the 'Love Hate' being made famous by a film. If you wish to give more information than what is relevant to Fallout, simply link to the Wikipedia page like so Wikipedia:Corked bat 11:06, October 16, 2011 (UTC)