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Safe Storage in Zion[edit source]

did you guys tried any container to see if it's safe to stash equipment? just started to play and I'm already full of stuff I'd like to keep. tks! Apparently the Three Bags right in the entrance of Zion National Park ARE safe for stashing equipment. I play on 360 and left all my stuff there during the whole Add-on campaign. (just remind the 'Take All' bug where not all yr equipment are retrived when using this option.)


I used the Workbench Storage crate in Angel Cave. Saved, then waited a week to see if it emptied. It didn't, so I reloaded my old save and carried on. The time consuming part is getting it all back to the motel in Novac afterwards. BunnyCommando 12:25, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Skillbooks[edit source]

Are there any Skill Books in this DLC? My friend swears he found one but I did not. --JJakaRebel 00:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


I've found a Big Book of Science.


That's what my friend said he found. Where did you find it? --JJakaRebel 02:41, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


Man, I'm not sure which one, but I've found it in one of the caves, I guess it was Cueva Guarache, but I'm not sure. Sorry :/


Ok That's fantastic. That's exactly where my friend said he found his Big Book of Science. --JJakaRebel 17:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I found a Tales of a Jerktown Junky Vendor and a Chinese stealth book in the same container. It seems as though the skill book(s) received may be random. 71.163.222.227 20:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

You can find them in containers near workbenches and such but they are really random and unlikely to find, the Big Book of Science is the most common one though. --Cc99910 18:41, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I found about 3 Big Books of Science in random containers (win!), but I didn't see any other skillbooks in the whole add on. --Supersoviet8055 13:38, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Are you able to....[edit source]

go back? i mean theres all that stuff to do and if you don't even know about it..... THANK YOU ATTENTIVE SIR!!!!! For letting me know.


Yes. You are able to go back as much as you want. Companions aren't allowed, however. --JJakaRebel 02:53, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh no not again..... My copy is massively glitched. The Xander Root model is missing and shows up as big red diamonds with exclamation points inside. Neither the General Store nor the Saloon have floors -- unless you stand on something, you go into an endless looping fall -- and they are filled with the aforementioned red diamonds with exclamation points. This is depressing.... Wunengzi 04:16, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

When you go back all the named NPCs disappear so you won't be able to complete side quests any more. Solution, complete side quests before returning to the Mojave.

weapons[edit source]

Another bug? 18 may 2011[edit source]

Hello,

I have this game with both the addons Dead Money and Honest Hearts.

I've made sure to check every .esm box when I run the game through the launcher. Dead Money works fine, but Honest Hearts does not. When I played Dead Money for the first time it gave me a quest saying 'come to the opening of the sierra madre' or something like that. Honest Hearts doesn't give me a new quest at all. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance August Cyrx 17:59, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


Mine is as well. The local GameStop told me to call Microsoft but I am unsure what that will accomplish if it's a user error or anything to that sort.

get the new update. 6 iirc

I got the new update when I downloaded it. What else do you suggest I do?

I had that problem but it cleared up immediately once I dismissed my companions. 76.167.141.204 17:11, May 27, 2011 (UTC)Helena


I've also got this problem, tried the above and did nothing for me.(xbox 360)

I just got HH on the PS3 and it suffers from this exact same glitch. I've reinstalled it multiple times, dismissed all companions, uninstalled and reinstalled the game itself and still no luck. Like the OP Dead Money works fine, but HH is simply unplayable. The level cap did increase to 40, but the new perks don't appear either, making it undesirable to level up til i can get them. Does anyone have any other ideas for a workaround? I've waited almost 4 weeks and don't want to have to wait longer. UPDATE: I've confirmed that it has nothing to do with the ED-E My Love quest, as a brand new character suffered from it as well. It most likely has something to do with a missing file. Sucks for the PSN to finally go back up and not be able to play the DLC 'cause of stupid bug.

Just tried it and the Classic Pack won't work either. It seems like it's a problem with the current patch. It's odd that Dead Money would work though.


I'm having the same problem, except that Dead Money isn't working either. In my 'Game Data' file, I have three FNV files (the main vanilla game, Dead Money, and Honest Hearts). Two of them are Canadian versions of the file, but one of them is the US version, and I think it's Dead Money. That would explain why it's not working. My level cap has gone up, I don't know how high it is right now, but nothing else changed; no new missions, no broadcast from Sierra Madre, and even though I installed both the English and French version of the Classic Pack, I get no items given to me in a current load or a new game. This is absolute B *bleep*ing S. After waiting for PSN and the PS Store for well over a month to buy these DLC's and redeem my Classic Pack, I blow my $20 PSN card that I bought weeks ago on this bugged crap. Why did PS Store give me the US version of Dead Money? Why are neither of these add-ons showing up in the game? Why am I not recieving my Classic Pack items? And finally, while a mistake by Sony would be understandable (they've been pretty busy), for Bethesda/Obsidian it is absolutely inexcusable. They had over a month while Sony kept us offline to get these things right, to test them. B*llsh*t, complete b*llsh*t. I am so angry right now I can't even think straight. --The.true.samiam 05:35, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Meals-to-Metal[edit source]

what is it? I'm locked inside Zion and can't find all ingredients do carft it.

The workbench recipe with all the pots and pans in it? It's just a way to create scrap metal. Same thing for the recipe with the plates and utensils. I believe I got 1 scrap metal out of the pots and pans recipe. 71.163.222.227 21:24, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

BUG - Weapon mods bought from Joshua Graham[edit source]

I'm on the xbox360 and none of the weapon mods added for the honest hearts weapons apply when bought they just sit in my inventory. Tried multiple times, reloaded saves, etc and was wondering if this has affected anyone else. 86.147.161.78 19:47, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


I'm slightly confused. Did you manually try and apply them? They don't automatically appear on your weapon. You have to do it yourself. --JJakaRebel 20:40, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


Haha now I feel really stupid, rightly so as well. I had completely forgotten about needing to apply them, thank you. I'll just go and quietly weep at my own stupidity now :) 86.147.161.78 21:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

New Map Marker[edit source]

Dagger's Point is not listed with the other locations, it's directly east of The Bend Bridge, on a point of land sticking out towards the bridge. There is a half buried duffle bag with a Vault 22 Jumpsuit and other stuff in it near a half buried skeleton, some Xander root plants and a Mesquite tree are nearby.BigShayne08-1 21:55, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Strong back[edit source]

I have the strong back perk (like nearly everyone else), and it definitely does not let you bring 100 pounds of stuff...the message still appears saying 75, and it didn't change until I talked to Ricky. LucidDreams 02:17, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does; when you speak to Jed Masterson and you select the dialogue choice that says you want to leave, he should explain the whole weight limit thing and there will be a barter check along with a dialogue choice for strong back. I know I definitely was able to select it with him and I've seen an LP with it as well. 69.124.169.24 02:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

First, what makes you think nearly everyone has the strong back perk? I’m sure there’s plenty of people (like me) who think it’s a waste of a perk. All it does is let you carry 50 pounds, however a companion will carry about 200 pounds for you. If you’re going to take a weight related perk the long haul perk is far more beneficial. Instead of a lousy 50 pounds, you can fast travel regardless of how much you’re carrying.

Anyway…

One trick is if you’re playing on hardcore, turn it off until you arrive there, then turn it back on, that way your ammo doesn’t count against you. ReapTheChaos 15:02, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

White Legs in Zion After Completion of DLC?[edit source]

Yeah, I don't think that they're still around at the end. I ended up wiping out the white legs an as a result there are NO white legs left in Zion. Therefore, the note about the people left following the completion of the DLC may be incorrect. Also, the Sorrows and the Dead Horses are still there but Graham, Daniel, Follows-Chalk and Walking Cloud are gone. Two Bears High Fiving is still around though. Richie9999 04:05, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


I had just noticed that currently the page states "It's important to note that after you have completed the DLC, no more "good" characters will be left in Zion. This includes the Dead Horses and Sorrows tribes. If the player feels the need to explore, it would be a good idea to do so before the final quest. Also, whether or not you decide to take Daniel or Graham's route for the final quest, White Legs will still appear in Zion after the completion of the DLC."

After completing Daniel's ending and then persuading Salt-Upon-Wounds to leave through a speach check; -No white legs are around at all -The actual DH and S tribes have gone but I often find Dead Horse stalkers sneaking throughout zion (renamed with something similar to Canaanite Follower??!) -Any other named NPCs have all left too. Tom.kendal 10:09, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looking in the G.E.C.K., which tribals are randomly encountered in Zion after completing the DLC is dependent on two things. If you completed the quest Crush The White Legs or if you convinced Salt-Upon-Wounds to leave during Flight From Zion, there will only be Dead Horses. Otherwise there will only be White Legs. If people are still finding Sorrows tribals, not sure where they are coming from. BrokenDetonatorCollar 06:33, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Disappointment in the DLC[edit source]

Did anyone else think that this DLC was way too short? Compared to all of the content from Fallout 3, and FNV's Dead Money, I found that I beat it in like 2 hours, with all of the content explored, all of the text read. I revisited to get some of the unique item's that I had previously missed, but all-in-all that only added another 45 minutes worth of time to get every single location, as well as all of the unique armor & weapons. Also, I feel as if the "legend of the burned man" was cool, but Joshua Graham was just so minor in an already miniscule plot depth. I mean with every other DLC there has been some mystery or deep enticing lore behind all of the content. For example Mothership Zeta had so much content explaining what the space ship was doing there in the first place and all of the characters from different time periods had their own stories, as well as Operation Anchorage had its own special feeling to it of espionage & sabotage in a foreign land, and Dead Money, had the whole mystery factor to everything, with Vira and her lover, and the vault at the bottom of the casino. Anyways, getting back on track, I just thought it was over all a disappointment. I found the lore associated around the burned man was interesting, but then when you see him, and talk to him, with the very limited communication options, and responses, to be an overall disillusionment. To emphasize what the point I'm making, I found the lore around "The father in the cave" aka Randall Clark to be much more interesting than the burned man. Lastly, the fact that they killed off 3 named NPC's in the first 5 minutes of the DLC was a disappointment, I would've suggested a capture by the White-legs, and then maybe an escaping the White-leg camp as a quest where they maybe die because of their vices, shown by the one being a chem addict, etc. Anyways, I would really like someones input on this also, so someone please respond, thanks. GodMaroh 06:05, May 19, 2011 (UTC)GodMaroh


Although this DLC increases you cap by 5 and has a few good weapons and armor, I agree that it lacked a certain depth that other DLC's have had and its length was a little dissapointing. Is it worth the money? Yes. In my mind it's still worth the money. --JJakaRebel 06:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


Yes, I agree it's an OK quick play through, and is in fact worth the money, I disagree with the weapons & armor statement though, nothing tops Chinese Stealth Armor & Gannon Family Tesla Armor or Remnants Armor, IMO, and I'm a ranged weapons person myself, so I use everything except explosives and melee/unarmed stats, so Nothing really topped the items I already have, especially the godly Holorifle. Even the melee weapons you received weren't much, as they didn't top anything in the vanilla FNV. But other than that, I enjoyed the extra 5 levels, and some of the Story Line in Honest Hearts, but the negative aspects including perks, weapons, armor, and depth, made me disappointed.( Yes, I also disliked the perks that were added in HH.)GodMaroh 06:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)GodMaroh


I should clarify; I only like the Survivalist's Rifle and the .45 Auto submachine gun for weapons. For the armor, the only thing good is the Desert Ranger combat armor as it has a high DT for a medium armor(the only armor I wear). The only perk I thought was useful was Grunt as it gives a nice boost to most Non-energy weapons in the game. Exploration-wise, The DLC lost its charm after an hour. There isn't too much to do after you complete the quests and find 90% of the locations. JJakaRebel 18:06, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


You two pretty much covered all of the points, but yes I loved DM much more than HH. Even the open narrative was just sort of "eh". I was greatly looking forward to this DLC; I mean I stayed up until 1:30 that night waiting for it to be released. (DLC's apparently don't follow the same rules as movie releases) I do think that a lot of the weapons and armor are ridiculously good. Even so, the benefits of completing DM are worth so much more (infinite stimpacks, ammo, weapon repair kits, and even the gold bars are all possible through DM) I really just wanted a lot more, if anything they could've just expanded on the story. DM had about 4 characters but those 4 characters mean more than the entire Zion Canyon. I hope Old World Blues can remedy HHs failures. BatmanVampireNinja 02:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


I hate to make accusations like this, but I find it a little hard to believe you finished it in two hours. Perhaps you weren’t paying attention to the time but I think it probably took you longer than that.

I played it through three times total, and my third time was a speed run to see just how fast it could be done. I completed all the quests in the game including both companion quests, the Rite of Passage quest as well as playing both ending quest lines and did nothing else, no picking up loot or exploring, and that took me 3 hours. I suppose if you skip the side quests and skipped through the conversation you could shave maybe 20-30 more minutes off of that, but keep in mind when I was through with that speed run I hadn’t even discovered half of the locations on the map and didn’t do one bit of exploring.

So to answer your question, no I didn’t find it too short.

Yeah, did anyone think that this was way too easy. It was a pleasant change from Dead Money which chewed me up, spit me out, raped what was left, set it on fire, then raped it again, but it was enjoyable. Honest Hearts was almost too easy, the only reason I didnt beat it within 3 hours is my save glitched in such a way that the ending cutscene wouldnt load so i rage quit. Desert Ranger Combat Armor is totally worth buying it though. -- 70.178.197.119 01:59, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Please stop saying its worth the money. If the CEO's of Besthesda read this they will stop putting effort into the add ons for future Fallout games.


It was worth the money.

But seriously, I liked Joshua's character a lot, he was the only reason I bought the DLC. I only wish there were more dialogue choices with him. He was so hyped up and you can't even ask him /why/ he went with Caesar in the first place. On the subject of dialogue, I noticed that some of the choices were really bad and slang-filled, like how you can ask Waking Cloud "what her deal is". She doesn't even bat an eye, and her English is really structured, so, realistically, one would expect her to ask what that's even supposed to mean. Or how dialogue choices reflecting religion either went, one, "That sounds cool!", two, "Let me think about that...", or three, "LOL YOU DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THAT CRAP DO YOU?" I was hoping for a bit more ambiguity and not clear cut positive-neutral-negative choices, or being able to say, "Well, I'm not really religious," politely, but alas. --Kafeij 07:58, June 2, 2011 (UTC)


It's not just that, this dlc really lack into effort from devs. Like the side quest of Walking Cloud about her family that just require you to turn around and talk to Daniel, 3 lines of text and the quest is over already. It goes pretty much like: "oh Daniel do you know anything about this chick husband?" "Oh yea that guy, he died but don't tell her. Oh well, if you really want then tell her, whatever".

It lacks many others things, maybe its just because I'm not a canyon guy but zion lacked everything that Sierra Madre had. From the atmosphere of costant danger, right from the start by being stripped naked just with a rifle with a few ammo, from the place itself filled of the deadly cloud killing the sky and slowly killing the player, the costant need to watch your step, the skillful level design that turned every location into a maze using the radio...

I don't even want to talk about the characters, even Sinclaire and Vera were better then the most accurate characters of HH. For this and for all that has been said before, in the end, HH seems a lot like some little dlc just made to milk the cow of the dlc. I just hope that Old World Blues and Lonesome Road will follow Dead Money example. --BeerSeeker 00:55, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Optional Quests Misconception[edit source]

NOTE: Some of the "optional" quest are glitched and complete after one of the objectives is completed. This was tested on an Xbox 360, not other platforms. (Confirmed on PC as well.)


I believe the above to be inaccurate? I assume it relates to quests similar to and including the one where you must either wipe out White Legs Camp or steal their tribal totem (sorry for lack of name)...


Both are optional objectives however on completion of one; the entire quest is complete...


I believe these to be moral and/or playing style choices to give the player two options as to how they want to complete the quest; NOT a glitch of any sort? Tom.kendal 10:16, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actual Confirmed Number of Locations in HH[edit source]

Again, my complaint lies in why there can't be a simple "Locations Discover out of x"

I've now discovered 245 in NV, DM and HH. I know I discovered all the locations in the Mojave and DM (not including Legates Camp)but am not sure how many that number is? Or indeed how many there are in HH.

So I feel we should include the total number of HH locations on the main page and i would appreciate if someone could give us a total number all together? Tom.kendal 10:21, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you just count the locations that it lists in the "Locations" section of the Honest Hearts add-on page? I counted, there are 55. GodMaroh 19:07, May 19, 2011 (UTC)GodMaroh

Just type "tmm 1" in the console (save before, not after), count all map markers and there you go! - IPodged 03:44, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Story section[edit source]

Erm... where is it? Don't tell me we're not showing it due to the spoiler butthurts. Trolly Polly Olly 21:21, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was vandalized, I restored it. Ausir(talk) <staff/> 00:52, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Legion Problems?[edit source]

I came back the the Mojave after completing HH (fought the White Legs, stopped Joshua from killing salt-wounds)and all legion soldiers outside of Cottonwood cove and the Fort are hostile towards me. My rep with Legion is "Liked" but the troops at Nelson, Legion Raid Camp, and techatticup mine are all hostile on sight. Anyone else had this problem?


I had a similiar problem with the NCR after completing HH, though I evacuated the Sorrows from the Canyon. The only way the NCR won't attack me is if I disguise myself as one of them, though certain guards will try to get me. Even the Crimson Canyon tries to attack me. Bear in mind my reputation with the NCR is "Idolized". (Note: I put this in the bugs section of Honest Hearts.) I haven't checked with all the factions though. (I made enemies with Caesar's Legion long before the DLC, though.)

Yea , that sounds just like my problem. I havent tried with my NCR character yet, but both of my legion characters have this problem

Companion glitch prevents starting the DLC[edit source]

So I removed the line on the wiki page saying "traveling to Vault 22, and then taking the elevator to level 5 should cause ED-E to appear next to you" because I tested it on Xbox and it didn't do anything. If it works for someone else's platform then add it back but be specific which platform it worked on.

I'm playing on Xbox. Right now I have the glitch where ED-E is stuck in the entrance to Bloodborne Cave, and I've already slogged through Dead Money. I tried travelling to every level of Vault 22 and it didn't pop him back out, tried Vault 21 as well with no luck. Does anyone else have any suggestions for fixes, besides waiting for a patch which who knows how long it will take them to develop? Going back to a previous save is not a "fix" either. (though it is what I'm angrily contemplating now...) ~Jenny

Hey Vault 22 Always works for me on Xbox360 when I loose a companion so I don't know why it isn't working for you, I'm going to put it back in as a POSSIBLE fix but it appears it doesn't work for everyone. EDIT:Nvm looks like its locked oops! ~Thrasher

Companions: OK so Boone and ED-E followed me to Zion. Jed didn't even comment on them. There was nothing preventing my companions from following me. When we got ambushed, Boone and ED-E didn't even engage in combat. Is this a glitch? (I think it is) Has this happened to anyone else?

I didn't know you could actually bring companions with you into this DLC, so I sent Cass back to the Lucky 38 casino, (I lost ED-E when prompted to have sex with the chick in The Thorn, Red Lucy I think, and ED-E vanished, went to Vault 22, did the elevator trick, no go; does anyone possibly have a fix on getting him back??? Already finished Dead Money BTW.)ScXthursday 05:02, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Modifications.[edit source]

Please, whoever is replacing the info with twelve-year-old-curses stop. We worked in making that page, and some people want it to complete their game... Eskxhi 05:52, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


LOCK THIS PUPPY DOWN AND SWALLOW THE FRICKIN' KEY!!!

We should mention that the patch that came with Honest Hearts breaks the GECK editor... so if you wanna do editing with the geck, until they release an update, you've gotta use the earlier version. 74.131.186.227 08:10, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, the patch that added compatibility for Honest Hearts came out a bit before the expansion was released, and they provided a new GECK to go along with it; I'm using said GECK with a fully up-to-date (because Steam won't let me not update) New Vegas with no problems. Maybe you just haven't downloaded the updated GECK yet. 75.81.186.55 02:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
The Bethesda GECK page doesn't mention the 1.3 update for FNV. Just click through the regular FNV GECK link and it will open dialogue for the current version: http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/updates-GECK-fnv-eula.php
--http://brianranzoni.com 00:17, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

weight[edit source]

Im on the xbox360 and when i went to start the quest to enter zion, i talked to jed and everything and when i got to he end of talking to him i told him the strong choice and i entered zion being able to carry 270 pounds worth of stuff, is this a glitch? alot of people say you can only carry up to 75lbs or a 100lbs?


I can carry 260lbs worth of stuff it is weird.

Crashed Plane??[edit source]

Theres a crashed plane by that Angel cave place is there any information in the DLC about it?Nbyk goughy 11:38, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

-So far I haven't found a way to get to it. I've tried all different angles, jumping up cliffs, etc, and still, no dice. I guess we're not supposed to be able to get there. On a related note, I jumped up the cliffs to get to the The Aerie, not knowing that there was easy access from the river. I thought I had gone all the way around it, I guess I had not- lol.

Table form quest list?[edit source]

Is this forming necessary? Because the quest rewards list sometimes too long for a single table cell. I think the forming should be reverted. --The BuNFi 17:49, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Q2[edit source]

So it says on the release date for PS3 that it's "Q2". What exactly does that even mean? Kastera (talk) 02:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Depends on Sony, because without Playstation Network, impossible to get. --The BuNFi 20:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It should be releasing this Tuesday or next; or it possibly could have been released today, as there was store maintenence for the Welcome Back program.ScXthursday 05:03, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Bugs[edit source]

I completed HH with minor problems, even found the Survivalist's Rifle with ease. I'm back in the Mojave and I open the footlocker and get all the neat goodies. I fast travel to the Gun Runners to offload what I got. After I make a big fat barter excgange and back out of conversation, I go to my Pip-Boy and the game freezes, every time. I'm on XBox 360, BTW. Anyone else with the same problem? Any hope of another patch soon?--€;-£ 01:32, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

since iv downloaded honest hearts, im always crashing at the vendetron, and when booting up the game it never loads, so have to use a previous save then reload in game. these are the only problems iv had since the game came out. ziplobthud pop the zip 23:04, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Level cap[edit source]

What exactly does "Honest Hearts, like Dead Money, raises the level cap by 5" mean? If I have Honest Hearts, but don't have Dead Money, will my level cap be 35 or 40? 83.251.179.226 16:33, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

  • Each DLC raises it by 5. If you only have one, it will only be raised 5. ReapTheChaos 06:08, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Marked locations.[edit source]

The list of locations is a bit confusing. It lists 53 separate locations, yet two of them don’t exist. “Zion Canyon” is listed, but that’s the entire map. That would be like listing “Mojave wasteland” on the main locations page. Also “Northern Passage” is listed, when that’s actually a location in the Mojave wasteland. Although unusable, it was in the main game prior to the DLC being released.

Lastly, Three Mary’s Cavern is listed, but depending on how you complete the DLC it may or may not get a map marker. If you do the Flight from Zion ending, it doesn’t get a map marker. Perhaps if you explored that area prior to the final quest it may, I would have to do another playthrough to see. At the very least there should be a note made on it. ReapTheChaos 06:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Three Mary's Cavern must be the mysterious map marker that keeps showing up on my compass that I can't seem to find. I've been traveling in circles trying to triangulate it's exact location but it seems to only be visible when I approach it from the south-west. When facing any other direction it won't even appear on my compass. I've already completed Honest Hearts by helping Graham kill the White Legs. Zac hemker 06:39, July 5, 2011 (UTC)


Yeah, a big flaw in HH is the fact that alot of locations keep disappearing/reappearing on the mini-map(displayed on screen, bottom left). I keep finding locations that don't showing up at all. This should have been fixed by Bethesda long ago. ((also, if you want to find a location that disappears/reappears, try putting a map marker in the direction of the undiscovered location, in the direction you are facing. that's how i found a couple locations. now, if i could just get to the d*mn downed plane atop the rocks...))August 12, 2011

Victor in Honest Hearts?[edit source]

On the western edge of Zion Canyon map there is a blinking triangle that says Victor, I'm on a 360, anyone else see this? It's directly west of Zion Ranger Station on edge of map!


Same here i think it is a glitch because i see victor were ever i am

Safe Houses Restocked[edit source]

"Once you are able to return to the Mojave by completing Honest Hearts, be sure to check any and all safe houses that you have already been to and recovered equipment from as they will have restocked during your time in Zion. This means another set of T-51b power armor as well as another tesla cannon and so on at the Brotherhood of Steel safe house, more ranger armor and so forth at the NCR Ranger safe house, etc..."

Hold it now, can I get some more details on this? Does this affect all items that are just sitting around in buildings, or just the items in safe houses? As in, if I go back into the silver rush will the center table be full of items again? Because I would love to get a plasma caster; the Van Graffs are dead and I accidentally used the only plasma caster I had to repair a tesla cannon.--FAR-02C 03:41, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I can't confirm but I am pretty sure it's just the Safe HousesEpzo 05:31, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
There is a little chance that Great Khan Armorer will sell a plasma caster...83.10.114.91 15:13, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
The Brotherhood Safehouse does not restock in my game, and the NCR safehouse only partially restocks. Are the NPCs stealing stuff from the shelves?--http://brianranzoni.com 00:20, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

It's not letting me download on PS3[edit source]

So the store finally came back up, and it says for the release that it would be ready today. But I have been trying, and it just keeps saying "This content cannot be accessed by this account." Am I the only one this happened to, or does PS3 just really hate me?

First of all, are you trying to download on a Sub-account or Master...meaning are you 18?? I'm going to assume that you are on a sub account, which if this is the case, go create a Master account and purchase it, and make sure you face a birthday; either that or your in Canada, in which case, you would need to purchase the French DLC add on, not the US(English) version, as there are 2 different flavors for Fallout DLC on the PS3. Also, due to the fact that the PSN just restarted and everyone is attempting to do the same thing at the same time like retards, try to wait a week and download it.ScXthursday 05:07, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

  • Do you know if the Canadian version of Honest Hearts will works with the US version of Fallout: New Vegas? I have the BLUS-30500 version, which I got with the Collector's Edition. I know they had this problem with Dead Money after Sony or Bethesda changed the available versions and Canadians no longer had access to the US version. Apparently it got fixed and those with US version game discs could download the Canadian version of Dead Money and it worked. I was fortunate enough to download it when they still offered the US version but now I'm unsure about Honest Hearts. I really want the expansion but don't want to download it just to have to get a refund or wait until a patch came out that allow it to work in the same way as the Canadian version of Dead Money.--Demon971 16:39, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

PS3 Version broken[edit source]

Somehow the newest DLC is horrendously broken, with a chance of removing all New Vegas DLC you may have on your system. I guess i'll just forget about all that Dead Money stuff i used to have...

Delete the Game data for Fallout new vegas. Go to Game-->Game Data Utility-->press triangle-->Delete. That should clear it up to a point where the system prompt you to reupdate the game. That or you can put the system into safe mode (turn off the system and hold the power button for 3 beeps, release it, then do it again, and youll hear a quick double beep after the second one.) Once in safe mode, select option 3 to restore the file system, then try again. Also, you can try to redownload all the DLC you purchase by going into your Download List. Go to Account Management-->Transaction Management-->Download List. You should see it there. The final option; back up all your precious save data onto a external HDD and reformat the HDD. Settings-->System Settings-->Restore PS3 System and select full restore, yeah it may take more than 10 minutes to format, but depending on the size of your HDD it could take anywhere from 1 hour to 16 hours. If you dont have the patience for this, go trade the system in for a Xbox 360. The game is less buggy on that console.

  • Unnecessary (and unbelievable). Do you have any bonus add on pack DLCs? Classic Pack? Well, that's your problem right there. All you had to do was delete the classic pack and reinstall the Canadian version and everything appears and works fine. Trading in for an Xbox (over one game nonetheless) is not the answer. In fact, the Xbox seems to be really buggy too (especially if you start your character over, has non-stop freezing). --Demon971 16:25, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • I had the same problem I just went into game data utility and deleted the Fallout New Vegas DlC (Can) and it worked. Hope this helps.--Skipbomber 19:27, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not in ps store[edit source]

The subject explains my problem,it could be im in ireland . PSN Dusty_Hammer

Steadily dwindling wildlife.[edit source]

Since I first played Honest hearts I have made about 6-8 trips back over about 100 hours of game time to gather plant life as well as green gecko hides. I have noticed a steady decline in the wildlife on each return visit. On this last visit, after circling the entire map twice, the only wildlife I encountered was one green gecko, two ants and two mantises.

I’m curious if anyone else has encountered this and if it’s a bug or by design? When I played the quest River Monsters, I choose to destroy the Yao Guai cave, so that might explain why there is none of them, but I cant think of any explanation for the other creatures. ReapTheChaos 07:40, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

well if you lead the sorrows out of Zion the ending slide show says the white legs polluted and trash the place pollution + trash = zion slowly dieing its a shame really i never did blow up the yua gui


cave anyway plus i think that would increase the gecko population next time dont blow up the cave and kill all the white legs

Cover art[edit source]

It keeps reminding me of recent movie poster for Hanna: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm827753728/tt0993842; I'm sure they're not really related, but it's a bit uncanny. Fernling 12:34, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Weight not accounted for[edit source]

When I drop everything in my inventory that has weight, I still have 24 ponds on me that I don't know where it is coming from. I do have some quest items with weight (great khans supply cash, sergeant teddy, retroactive supply cash, and caravan deck)but I read that this weight doesn't really get added into your total and even with all these there are still two pounds unaccounted for. On top of that, when I took the supply cashes to the person, my weight didn't go down. Any idea on what is going on? Getting my weight down to 75 is hard enough without the mysterious weight of air counting against me. Zefiewings 16:27, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

I figured it out. Turned out that my lead was weighing me down. Dropped it and all is well. Zefiewings 18:36, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

New bug?[edit source]

I finished Honest Hearts a long time ago around Level 19, now I'm currently Level 40. Today I decided to revisit Zion, 5 in-game months after I finished Honest Hearts.

Only to notice I was gaining XP. I quit the game to open Fraps and take a screenshot (PC), but now I opened the game again and my Pip-Boy shows my XP is MAX. Before it was 120000 out of 125000 or something near that.

Very weird. K1LL 22:39, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Bighorner calf quest[edit source]

I've reloaded the DLC for Honest Hearts 6 times and everytime I start up the mountain to search for the bighorner calf it tells me that I killed 1 of 9 bighorner. I haven't even seen one yet and I left my companion back in the cave with Joshua, has anyone had this issue or know why it's causing this?

One of the Bighorners may have fallen off the cliffs. You should try to reload and try again. User:Great_MaraUser talk:Great_Mara 20:49, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Map and Compass Bugs[edit source]

I decided to go green gecko hunting a little while ago. After I get to Zion via the Southern Passage. I get the hollow triangle indicating locations I haven't found. So I start heading in their general directions and after a few yards, they disappear. Anyone else having this problem? Hell, anyone got a pic of a completed map for Zion? -Malus X 04:39, July 25, 2011 (UTC)


See my post under Map Locations.

fallout roxs[edit source]

fallout rox as

Too short[edit source]

I walked in and out of that add-on in about 10-15 minutes. Killing people I didn't realise were integral to the story because they showed up as bad prats. Bit disappointed in that respect but all the same, at least I can go back there and rob the place blind unlike Dead Money. Which is what I really want to loot!

play time[edit source]

anybdoy know how many game hours is added by this dlc in completing these quests?(obviously this would be a very rough estimate since it varies person to person how quickly they do it)

was hoping the dart gun would return here, or something similar anyway. oh well