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Page Name

I'm not sure why this page was moved to here. The NPC's name in-game is just "Pinkerton", regardless of what his actual first name might be. Surely in-game data should be preferred? –RpehTCE 10:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Full names are preferred, actually, regardless of the in-game name. And there is a redirect here from Pinkerton anyway. Ausir 23:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I concur with Ausir. Shaur M. S. Grizlin 23:12, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Android

In the Official Prima Guide there is a passage that hints at Pinkerton being an android or atleast having android components. Should this theory be mentioned in the article --Ciao_Gamer@yahoo.co.nz 05:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I just checked the guide and there's nothing there to suggest that he's an android. He probably has a component because he operated on one (Harkness). Ausir 00:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Keep in mind that Pinkerton is aware of the location of at least one vault, and that he may know places where he could pick up such equipment.--Kajex Firedrake 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Also keep in mind that it's probably not unreasonable to assume that the non-stealable android components could indicate that they're being used. Just because you got a reflex module from Zimmer doesn't make you an android.--Kajex Firedrake 15:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Let me ask you, that why is everyone, who has anything to do with the replicated man, suspected of being an android? A car mechanic often has many of tools, but is he a toolbox? No, he uses them for fixing cars. And if Pinkerton is an android, he would probably be from the commonwealth, right?, and Zimmer would then probably know him or about him, right? But that doesn't seem to be the case.
Using the console on a PC, a player can remove Pinkerton's "essential" flag, kill him, and find an Android Component on his body (it cannot be pickpocketed). He likely acquired it when he performed surgery on the runaway android (see The Replicated Man). However, as a POSSIBILITY, it could be hypothesized that Pinkerton is also an android which would make his response to the character's question of "If he were an android wouldn't he like to know?", even more ironic. This hypothesis is further supported by the "light" found in his eyes, a light that is not dependent on the environment, and is particularly bright when compared with other characters. This "light" is also found in both Armitage and Harkness. If it can be suggested for Dr. Zimmer then it can be suggested for Pinkerton. This would also make the quest more ironic because the player would be dealing with almost all androids for it.

This has been moved from the main article, since it is speculation and is subject to debate. I wouldn't say the Android Component on his body is really evidence, since it requires console commands to obtain, which means it wasn't intended by the developers to be found and was probably left in and forgotten about.--Ehplee 22:45, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ehplee is most likely right, and it shouldn't be in the article since it's speculation, but you have to admit it is possible that Pinkerton is an android. I mean, Bethesda has a history of encouraging people to look at the game files with their construction sets, and the fact that you can't pickpocket the item seems to indicate that the component is a part of his body somehow. Furthermore, if the "Light" coming from his eyes is really there, and it is only seen on other androids, what other explanation is there? Besides, given the fact that he jokes about being an android directly to the player's face, it seems unlikely they put the component there by accident. Ashlyyn 18:23, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pinkerton is not an android. The light in his eyes is just a falsehood. No such light, not on him, not on the real android. The android component means nothing. This is all just wild speculation and unsupported by anything in-game.--Gothemasticator 19:12, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Facial reconstruction surgery

Is it just me, or is it the case that after you (the player character) undergo this surgery, none of the vendors or other townspeople have trouble telling who you are? Has anyone seen any evidence to the contrary? -- Dracosummoner 13:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, and no one ever mentions that they've heard about you from GNR, it's the downside of having to individually code and voiceover every line of dialogue for each character. Techercizer (say hi) (pwnage) 15:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Victoria, when she tells you about the reconstruction, does says 'But it wont change your identity'. So I guess thats why people still recognise you. which makes it all a bit pointless I suppose...


I think it's obvious that it's there so players can change their appearence. Pure aesthetics It doesn't need any real explanation. 64.234.0.101 02:38, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Traps and critters vs difficulty

I don't know if this is worth noting in the main article or not. It could be just one of the many quirks of the game. I'm playing the game on Normal (default) difficulty. I tend to be an explorer who must map out every corner and room as well as pick up anything I can pick up. I don't feel satisfied unless I've collected every tin can and clipboard I find. At least it pays off in terms of spending Money early in the game. I read all the info on the bow of the ship and Pinkerton before entering. I had myself worked up to diffuse all these booby traps mentioned several times in the article. I parked my comrade and armed myself to the teeth, spending a fortune in bent tin cans on extra stimpacks. I crept along searching every surface as I made my way into the bow. I saved before opening a door or turning a corner. I crept around each corner and cautiously up each set of stairs as if my mother in law lay in wait at the top of each one. Instead I encountered only two Mirelurk hunters, two mines, and one floor trigger. Certainly not worth the extra time I spent being extra cautious. Is this the norm for the default difficulty level? If so, I believe it should be noted to save other borderline OCDers from frustration. I chewed all my fingernails off. The worst part was being so worked up that when a wolf spider fell from the beams overhead in my cabin, lit only by the glow of my TV and a fire in the wood stove onto my chest.... Well there's no way to describe my reaction and maintain one scrap of my masculinity. Papahbear 04:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I did'nt know he wasn't essential after completing the android quest and now I cant change the way I look; I made myself look like a fish 'cause I thought it would be funny, fawkes went mad and killed him. Now Im stuck looking like a fish. Mary roc 20:53, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Replicated Man

It might be beneficial to mention that Pinkerton is the man who worked on the andriod a little more discretely. I ended up on this page trying to locate him for The Wasteland Survival Guide quest and ended up spoiling the most intriguing quest I've come across so far.

It is a fallout wiki and you expect information to be hidden? A little difficult... GunInEveryHome 19:08, June 21, 2010 (UTC)