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Just wanted to make a note that while in the Vault you will not level requardless of how much xp you gain. I was trying to get lvl 2 just so I could get lockpick from the maxed 47 to over 50 so I could open the safe with the rock-it launcher schematic. After killing every for easy 25xp each I had 279xp/200xp and as soon as I stepped out of the vault and the little door into the wasteland as expected I finally leveled... once I was already locked out and couldn't return. 06:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Level cap in Fallout 3 and Broken Steel add-on

I have been able to accumulate XP beyond level 20 on XBOX 360 without the Broken Steel add-on. I do have the "Operation: Anchorage" and "The Pitt" add-ons which I installed via disc (as opposed to download from XBOX Live).

If anyone else has had this experience, I think the main article should be revised to reflect that you can achieve additional levels as long as you have one of the add-ons.

I have the same add-ons as you installed the same way (retail disc). However, I am at Level 20 and am not receiving any more EXP. By that, I mean it still informs me of EXP I should get, but the meter does not move. Go into you Pip-boy and make sure it says "MAX" where your EXP should be. OPM 05:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

PS3 titles broken past level 20?

I have broken steel dlc, level 25 currently, but for some reason i am still Last,Best hope of humanity.

Same here. TacoD 04:15, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

It sucks, same here too. :(

Same here too! I play with Fallout 3 GOTY on the PS3 and my level title is still "Last, Best Hope of Humanity". It even changes to "Paradigm of Humanity" if I go on a rampage somewhere. January 11, 2010

Another confirmation for PS3 GOTY edition... Well, it's a nice title regardless. Note- it also doesn't change on the save/load game menu. 02:07, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Here in NV, I'm at Level 47 (3 and all DLCs so far), still labeled as Guardian of the Wastes, which is from level 20... Painterkilla 19:36, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Grey Stranger

Would the level 29 neutral title "Grey Stranger" be a possible reference to the Grey Fox in TES:Oblivion? Since when not wearing the mask, he is referred to as "The Stranger".

Recycling of materials from past Beth titles does not constitute a cultural reference.--Gothemasticator 20:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
I think theres a difference between a recycle (Grognak's axe) and a drop dead reference. But okay then. Tzaro the Outcast 20:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
Bethesda has a history and practice of reusing character names, voice actors, quest designs, etc. We do not cover such on this wiki.--Gothemasticator 21:28, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Player Character's Level's influence on creature-types in locations and encounters.

Is there any reference or information available that give more or less accurate info on how the type/level of creature you encounter is determined? And is there any way to influence and/or manipulate it? Because it's obvious that at high, broken steel levels the game becomes a parade of Overlords and Ghoul Reavers. But sometimes you get struck ridiculously early on with powerful creatures out of the blue.

I remember chipping away at a Super Mutant Overlord with the CSA and a Dart Gun at around level 9-10 near the Shelter south of the Chryslus Building and thinking that without the CSA with it would simply have been game over.Dr. Lobotomy 23:15, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Level Perk Skip

Playing through Vegas, I was in Vault 34 when I reached level 17, but got the perk then. I do not have the Here and Now perk. Glitch?

What happens if you max all skills before the level cap

Basically, what I am asking is if you max ALL skills before level 20/30 depending on if you have broken steel added, and than level up will you be stuck at the skill screen with no where to put your points, or will the game account for that?

FNV level cap & Dead Money

I know Dead Money raised the level cap to 35, but I found that if I remove all its files (ESM, NAM, and BSAs) and load a savegame before installed/activated Dead Money, I can still level up to 35 ("getGS iMaxCharacterLevel" returns 35). I've checked if it was caused by any mod I installed (most are bug fixes, plus some self-made weapon tweaks. I didn't use the community bugfix compilation) with FNVEdit, but didn't find any.

I even remove all mods and start a new game, but the level cap is still 35 (check with "getGS iMaxCharacterLevel" console command). It seems the recent update has something to do with this. The game setting "iMaxCharacterLevel" is still 30 in the main ESM, maybe the new level cap is hardcored in the new exe? Can anyone who updated the game to the newest patch but didn't buy or have Dead Money check the level cap? --NovaRain 03:20, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Skill Mags

If you have skill makes active when you level up, will they qualify you for perks? eg: Barter 60+ Salesman Weekly(10)= Long Haul. General Geers 15:10, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Level 36

I have Dead Money installed and levelled up at level 36. Is this a bug? Lumps 14:28, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Just now after installing the 1.06 patch I was able to level to 31

Which was intersting, since i just finished the game, no DLC what so ever, I was just doing some of the other endings, and I reached level 31, increased skills, etc. I had previously not recieved XP, just the sound effect. Now it seems I can level. Also after updating and loading the auto save of my frist play through before the credits, the game had not allowed me to save, though I skipped the credit (after all reading seeing them pre patch) so maybe that is a factor...

Likewise except I have both DLCs meaning the max for me should be 40.. but I'm getting experience and almost to 41 since the recent patch. They giving us a friendly 5 extra levels or something?

new vegas july 2011 patch 1.06 allowed me to level without dlc PS3

I was amazed that this happened directly after the update.. I was given skill points to allocate and everything...Initially I had no problems if Bethesda was giving "NoDLC Fallouters" extra levels, but, when the game began to frequently crash, then I had a problem. Anyone knows how to fix? 07:48, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

New Patch ( PS3 ? ) Level Cap = 40 w/o addons?

  Hey everyone, I was just wondering if this happened to anyone else or if I'm missing something but, In the ,, Level  Page it says that the cap in New Vegas is 30 without any addons but my game has my cap set to 40 on the PS3 and, to my knowledge, there is no addon installed. How is this possible ? A glitch perhaps ?