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Do Rangers Re-spawn?[]
I am thinking they do but im not too sure :/ I know that NCR Troopers re-spawn after 3 days but I would like to know if the Rangers do aswell. Clarification on this would be much appreciated
--173.180.66.105 22:08, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
Some do but it differs from each play through.
- It is what makes me love fallout 3 & NV so much. The game is not always the same from each replay.
SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:57, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Beards[]
Is it worth mentioning that every male NCR Ranger has a beard?--68.209.80.202 05:46, August 2, 2011 (UTC)
Anyone else experiance this?[]
This is nothing important, but I'd like to share it because it was hilarious to me.
I fast traveled to the New Vegas North Gate and when you appear you are situated right in front of the gate, in the secured area. Well a ranger was waiting for me to give me the two-way radio and as soon as our dialog was complete the upgraded securatrons killed him.
Now I have the Authority Glasses!
@^ Answer to the above anon
It was a random glitch not worthy of a being a bug.
- But yes I think that would be funny. You got lucky to see the game misbehave in a fun way.
- When that Ranger appears if you can keep up long enough you will usually see him killed by some thing.
It all depends on where he is spawned and if you choose to chase him.
SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:51, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Rangers[]
Well they are on the frontlines after all. But my point is that the policing function is still very much there, when needed. There's plenty of evidence out there that indicates that maintaining law and order is part of their job, and why should that be excluded just because it is not as readily apparent in-game to you, as the player? It's not like there's much more evidence of them just being "special forces", either.
They're the ones who keep an eye on your actions, and assemble posses to put you down if you're getting to be a pain in the ass.
They're often found at outposts throughout the Mojave, keeping eye on things. If they were just so-called "special forces", I don't think that both Ghost and Jackson would bother camping their ass at Mojave Outpost. For that matter, I don't think that Ghost would be keeping such a keen eye on things, either.
They aren't employed like special forces. They aren't called in to accomplish a special mission that any group of regular soldiers can't do as well. I also distinctly remember one of the Rangers going on about he was called in to help a bunch of frontier settlers -- who turned out to have killed hundreds of tribals because they stole the only source of water in the area. That sounds more like what a gendarme would do: respond to reports of a fracas instead of going in, guns-a-blazing.
It's called "Ranger Patrol Armour", presumably for a reason. Actually, there is a reason: they go on patrol. Sterling was on patrol when he got jumped by the Legion.
They have a division specially assigned to handle riots.
If they are keeping an eye on those potential threats rather than engaging in actual military operations with an enemy that the NCR has effectively declared war on, then they are actually performing the typical roles of a frontier police, or gendarmerie. Frontier police, gendarmerie, border guard. All of those fall under the definition of a paramilitary organization, due to the fact that their roles are not exclusively military in nature, and all perform many of the same roles. In times of war, a frontier police can effectively be a military in of itself. Again, read up on the Texas Rangers, from which the NCR rangers draw a considerable amount of inspiration from.
Good god, I cannot understand why you people are getting so antsy about this. It's not a matter of pure speculation.
216.58.107.222 01:04, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
- The Legion Assassins also watch your actions, does that make them a police force? As far as patrol armor goes, it's something you do in war, you send patrols, so that doesn't indicate them being a police force. Additionally, this is what's seen in New Vegas, Hence NCR Ranger (Fallout: New Vegas). IIRC the incident with the water and tribals and whatnot occurred within the core region. Richie9999 (talk) 01:22, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because again, that territory is not under their control. And you don't go on patrol with special forces, unless you have a specific goal in mind. And you certainly do not send one guy to do it alone. As for the incident with the tribals, Hanlon (who mentioned the story) said he sent the settlers back to California. Most of the Core Region is made of California. And while that may not necessarily refer to the Mojave, it does say something about the fact that the Rangers are frontier police because they're sent to deal out with stuff like this.
- And if you can find a military special forces unit that has a riot police division, let me know. Actually, if you do let me know, it only confirms what I've been saying thus far.
- Special Forces: Special forces, or special operations forces are military units highly-trained to perform unconventional, often high-risk missions.
- Police: The police are a constituted body of persons empowered by the state to enforce the law, protect property, and limit civil disorder.
- To me, the Rangers apply the former. Any amount of (minor) policing they do often falls under the category of unconventional and high risk. Things you wouldn't send a normal foot soldier for. For the Divide, where the riot forces were used, that would also fall under the 'high-risk' part of special forces.
ōrdō āb chao 01:41, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
- To me, the Rangers apply the former. Any amount of (minor) policing they do often falls under the category of unconventional and high risk. Things you wouldn't send a normal foot soldier for. For the Divide, where the riot forces were used, that would also fall under the 'high-risk' part of special forces.
- The Rangers are under a separate command of the NCR military like the US Marine Corps and Army. As for their use as special forces and recon (the latter being how they're mainly used by the NCR) check Chief Hanlon's page. The rangers may have been based on the Texas Rangers, but they're not that anymore. They're used as recon. Richie9999 (talk) 01:48, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, I must emphasize that you are all taking far too much of a restrictive definition on this. You don't send foot soldiers to do policing. And you don't have a specific riot police division as part of a pure special forces operations unless policing is actually part of your job description.
(The above was not signed & is not mine but I might have a compromise.)
I SaintPain just being an average editor suggest.
- Stick to known facts as much as possible. No real Rangers ever fought for the NCR.
Speculation about how the fictional NCR is divided should be avoided because it's not a game fact until it's presented in game or by a designer with the right to dictate canon.
Sorry if that sounded like me play'n know it all. I just wanted to offer a peace.
SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 02:11, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Honestly I'm not even sure if the NCR riot control were rangers. Beyond the page here saying they are I haven't seen any indication, a fellow editor's GECK check didn't turn anything up saying they were rangers. Richie9999 (talk) 02:33, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Rangers can see through disguises?[]
Where is the evidence to this statement?
"Quote" Unlike standard NCR troopers, Rangers can see through disguises. "End quote"
SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:36, April 18, 2013 (UTC)