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We don't put real-world weapon references on article pages, unless it's the same name as the real-world weapon, or if is mentioned by a developer that the ingame weapon is intended to represent a specific real-world weapon.

I'd just like to point out, I finally ended this controversy XD --Deus Gladiorum 11:00, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Can i be honest.....


After the patch, this thing actually outDPS the Cowboy Repeater (assuming both are unmodded or fully modded and the player either don't have or have both Cowboy and Grunt perks), though the Cowboy Repeater still beat it in damage per shot, finally giving it a worthy place in your backpack until it is outclassed by the Marksman Carbine.

It's more of a small game hunting weapon at higher levels.

With Jury rigging this thing fuel the durability for my Light Machine gun as i send people to hell :D Terrorblades - This is recorded live at 19:12, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

US service rifle?

Is the service rifle a purpose built rifle for the NCR or was it a US service rifle first? if it is US, why is it only found in the southwest and not in the capitol wasteland?

If the speculation that it IS the M199 "backtalker" is true, the reason it wasn't in D.C is because it was being replaced in service by th R91 assault rifle, and th R91 was issued the U.S soldiers and National Guardsmen in the D.C area. And do not forget that the service rifles in-game are NOT Pre-War weapons, they were manufactured by NCR and the Gun Runners. Good day sir. 21:11, June 18, 2011 (UTC) Waffles

Assault rifle or Battle rifle?

Is the weapon an assault rifle or a battle rifle? This weapon is not on either overview page.--Ant2242 (talk) 08:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I believe it should be classified as a battle rifle, since it's semi-automatic only. Tagaziel (talk) 10:55, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
With some minor research on Wikipedia, a battle rifle and assault rifle are only different in the size of cartridge they use; battle rifles use larger rounds, such as a 7.62x51mm NATO, while assault rifles fire smaller intermediate-size cartridges such as the 5.56x45mm NATO. Being a neologism, there is no standard definition for a "battle rifle" but apparently, action has nothing to do with it. This research tells me the service rifle is an assault rifle. --Kastera (talk) 14:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
On the other hand, assault rifles need to be selective fire, while the service rifle is exclusively semi-automatic. Tagaziel (talk) 17:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

One could argue game mechanics. The AR-15 platform this weapons is based off of is still classified as an assault rifle.--Ant2242 (talk)

I've recently found that the Camp McCarran weapons manifest calls them "Assault Rifles". Should we put it on the Assault rifle page?--Ant2242 (talk) 09:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
It's tough to say where it actually belongs. It is a mismash of an AR-15 (assault rifle) and an AR-10 (battle rifle), so really trying to define it either way is difficult. I think we should just keep it in the battle rifle page as it works more like a battle rifle despite using 5.56mm. Shadowrunner(stuff) 20:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
It's definitely a battle rifle. Assault rifles are selective fire. No burst, no assaults. Tagaziel (talk) 20:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I would argue the Service rifle is in fact a rifle. According to Wikipedia Battle rifles use full-power cartridges like the 7.62mm.--Ant2242 (talk) 09:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Also Wikipedia changed the type to "semi-automatic rifle/Service rifle"--Ant2242 (talk) 09:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)