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one word... EPIC!!!! Lancer AR 23:51, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Melee weapon?[edit source]

So the article says the lance uses a "short wave radiation to attack the closest target". What exactly does that mean? That line makes it sound like a ranged weapon.--109.110.26.67 08:21, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

From the attack animation, sound effects and the name of the weapon i figured it's some kind of welding machine.84.58.199.11 15:30, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's a type of tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_lance No fancy scify stuff here, just plain old conventional plasma--Bloody Llama 22:43, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

I removed the word "closest" from the quoted phrase. --Kris User Hola.jpg 04:35, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Good weapon[edit source]

I had just purchased two of these, and used one to repair the other, and also had just spoken to the Elder for I Could Make You Care. Upon exiting the bunker, we were set upon by four BoS soldiers, two wielding Gatling lasers. I accidentally did a VATS round with a combat knife so after the round ended I switched to the lance, drank some soda, took some stimpaks and then exited the pip-boy and proceeded to slaughter 'em all, with help from Veronica (until she passed out) and ED-E. --Kris User Hola.jpg 04:35, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

How does it work?[edit source]

Does the thermic lance do damage over time like a ripper or chainsaw or does it actually do a hit? Krono 'Zulamee 23:39, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

From my (very short) experience I'm pretty sure it's DoT like Ripper or Chainsaw. --Jonathan Strange 23:44, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fire weapon?[edit source]

Does a thermic lance count as a fire weapon for the Pyromaniac perk? 194.199.143.57 12:59, October 29, 2010 (UTC) Moonheart

No. I just updated the Pyromaniac page with New Vegas specific information. You can check there what weapons are affected. --Jonathan Strange 13:38, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone clarify this![edit source]

Where has the info come from that it uses "short wave radiation" since the animation shows sparks and humming and the head of it looks like a welding tool i figure its a plasma torch or a electric welder of some kind.

Critical Hits[edit source]

The weapon can critical hit, or at least the game displays the critical hit message when using the weapon in VATS occasionally. Mictlantecuhtli 14:42, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Versus Legendary Deathclaw[edit source]

In theory the Thermic Lance can kill the Legendary Deathclaw in under three seconds (using nothing but automatic attacks), but I loaned out my copy of the game to a family member when I got sidetracked by Fable II and III, before I could test it in-game. With both melee speed perks (Slayer and Melee Hacker), the weapon should attack 6 times in three seconds. The total bonus damage attainable versus deathclaws is 50% (Purifier), 5% (Bloody Mess), 3% (Lord Death), 10% (Abominable), 20% (Heavy Handed) and 25% (Psycho or Slasher) for a total bonus of 113% (unless there is some type of cap). 100 + 113% = 213 (DT: 35 - 15 (Piercing Strike) = 20). So 193 x 5 = 965 damage in 2.5 seconds. Mictlantecuhtli 01:51, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


Super Slam! & Unstoppable Force not working[edit source]

I've been looking forward to buying this toy since the start of the game. But "hahaha, I'm going to screw you over!" said the universe. The weapon doesn't use either of Super Slam! or Unstoppable Force perks. They're either bugged or the info on the page is incorrect. I'm not at level 24 yet, to confirm whether it uses the Slayer perk. Even if it does though, it's not going to be enough to counterbalance the two (wasted) perks. Sticking with Oh, Baby! till the end of the game - a lot more fun and actually damage as well. --The Kiw 16:18, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Much more common after last patch?[edit source]

It seems now, after the last patch, that about 50% of the legionary assassin teams have one member with a thermic lance, usually in middling condition. The legionary assassin teams also appear to arrive more frequently, so it has become relatively easy to get a usable thermic lance much earlier and much more cheaply than before. Has anyone else noticed this? Wunengzi 11:40, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have the new patch but it's probably part of the mentioned rebalancing to account for the new levels added by DLCs. It's a REALLY vicious weapon so it makes sense that making enemies tougher would potentially include giving more of them this weapon. --Kris User Hola.jpg 11:58, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

"Scrap Heap" is changed?[edit source]

For me it works like half damage for half AP... 80.72.182.180 15:23, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Scrap Heap does 50% damage at the cost of 45 AP. Base AP is now 65. I would like to change this, but it seems this page is locked??--The Gunny 02:31, October 31, 2011 (UTC)