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This Sounds.... Odd....

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that a Brotherhood Of Steel Scribe would be working for an NCR courier? The BOS are hostile in this game and she doesn't seem like she's going to be hostile if she's a companion. Maybe she's disgruntled or a traitor but... Look, could someone just find some conformation? Thanks. 16:24, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

The Courier doesn't work for the New California Republic. The Courier works for Mojave Express. --Kris User Hola.jpg 16:53, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

The BoS isn't hostile........

The BoS is at war with the NCR. Ausir(talk) 22:53, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
Only according to the Van Buren storyline, which isn't necessarily canon. RadRuler 22:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
It was confirmed by JE Sawyer that the war is still on as of New Vegas - when he was asked why she wasn't wearing scribe robes, he said that it would be an easy way to get shot at by the NCR troops. Ausir(talk) 22:27, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough... wait, why are they at war? RadRuler 01:28, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
Because the good old Brotherhood wants every last pair of nightvision goggles that NCR has, and NCR isn't going to be pushed around by a bunch of all-talk no-action compensating-for-something dudes in armor. Nitty Tok. 01:44, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Don't think realism : Technically she is NOT a member of the brotherhood of steel. This explains why she doesn't become hostile even if you kill everyone in the hidden bunker. The brotherhood of steel faction becomes ennemy of the player faction quite easily and unlike the NCR there is no way to get them back to neutral afterwards. Besides, in the game the NCR and the brotherhoodofsteel have neutral relations. They are not hostile. For Veronica, she has her own faction, a "BrotherhoodSteelAllyFaction". Note she will refuse to join you if you killed everyone in the bunker, but she will not become hostile Croquignol 23:34, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

We're talking about in-universe factions, not factions in gameplay terms. Ausir(talk) 00:20, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Angel in Rags

Truly she is! I managed to sneak by the Cazadors into the dessert plain north of goodsprings, limped my way past Geckos of every sort, and came upon this saint with the magic hand. Veronica tore open the viper gang, allowing me claim to the Love and Hates, destroyed the MANY scorps in the hills, and wiped out the legionnaire assassins each time they came around. Her armor crushing fist-o is a god send!!! Highly suggested companion your first time go on easy-hard. Since she cant die, send her into a flurry of bullets with the T-51b power armor and watch the exp rise haha. 02:23, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

play on hardcore mode and companions in general are just annoying to take along, veronica included, since they can and do die. the pre-programmed AI is to charge the enemy head on for every companion in the game, so if you want to play intelligent and use tactics like forcing the enemy to come to you, it just doesnt work. they run in head first forcing you to rush out and take excessive damage while commanding them to chug down stimpacks like candy...
they really need better companion AI to make them a viable option in hardcore mode.
Well, yeah since all you do is reload when they die anyway. Boone is curious since he always starts with ranged, (if set to ranged), then advances and switches to melee. Lily never seemed to switch out of ranged or melee mode, (whichever is set), regardless of distance to target. I like the companions since they make a good diversion so I can get sneak critical attacks - doesn't work so well with Deathclaws though... AI needs to be tweakable so you can tell your companion to stay at range, (i.e. fall back), or switch to melee.
Something like 'If health is <25%, run away!'?

Veronica's Dress

Hey fellas, I was doing the Beyond the Beef quest and decided to give Veronica a white society outfit to see if she could disguise. When I did a dialogue opened up with her squealing and thanking me for such a wonderful gift i.e. the "fancy" dress the outfit turns into for females. She then taught a special melee move that lets you counter attack after blocking it's called Scribe Counter, now is this the same dialouge you get for any dress? or just really fancy ones? 05:28, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

---Just those ones. It's a neat move for Unarmed players.

Does it only work if you're a girl? I've tried it a lot with various attires, and she hasn't given me the scribe counter yet...

((Edit)) Never mind. It took her approximately six days in game time to finally realize I'd given it to her (?)

I had her with me when I killed the two (male?) White Gloves who attack you when you investigate the dead investigator. I gave Veronica one of their outfits just to get it out of my inventory and she gave me the scribe perk. DarthOrc 00:48, June 16, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc


Do we need to document every one-time glitch? A lot of things go wrong sometimes in this game. But that doesn't mean it's reoccurring. The 2 human follower glitch is just BS, it doesn't work at all!!!! The guy who posted it had it one time, no one else is having it; it should be deleted from the main page!!!.

We should. at least until it's confirmed fake. you sure it's not just you? you sure you're not playing a patched version, or on a console that it wasn't confirmed on?

My husband and I both play fallout New Vegas on the Xbox 360. We have had 2 companions running around with us all the time with no problems. We had no problems picking up Ed-E from Primm after upgrades with Veronica following us it has not been a one time thing for us. For both of us we picked up Ed-E before we had found Veronica and since we found Veronica we have had both of them following us everywhere all the time there also has not been any problems after completing their quests. Far as we knew the game was made so you could have 2 companions following you around at all times but who knows maybe Ed-E is just a freebie. I'll experiment sometime and see what comes of picking up a different follower along with Ed-E and see what happens without Ed-E if I can still have 2 companions at that point.

the game allows you one robotic follower and one humanoid follower.

Base ID

Requesting someone to find the Base ID for Veronica. -- 05:59, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

the base id is very easy to find you just hit tilde then click on the object or in the geck editor hover the mouse over the item in the list and the id shows up veronica is 0x0e32a9 22:33, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Her Hood

How can we get her to change her hat? TheTrueBlue 19:44, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Give her any kind of equipment with at least 1 DR and she will automatically equip it. SSDGFCTCT9 (Talk) 19:56, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
Ok high DR makes her take off her beggar hood now. If only I could get Cass and Veronica to follow me around in Sexy Sleepwear or Naughty Nightwear... TheTrueBlue 21:31, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
give her the outfit you want and make her equip it via console...if your playing on pc

Whats the console command to make her unequipt something? --TrueToCaesar 23:14, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have both Cass and Ronnie in Chinese stealth armor, and they look fantastic. After the patch, Ronnie will wear a desperado hat, and with the authority glasses, she looks cute as hell. I actually prefer to have them wandering around the Lucky 38 suite, rather than following me: this way I can follow them, and the view is gorgeous. Tharnhelm 16:32, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Veronica will wear one of the masks from the White-Glove Society. This will show her hair, but hide her face. This combines with the Chinese Stealth Armor for a very android like appearance (somewhat unsettling). Kind of like the robot in the movie "Ex-Machina" RedVideo (talk) 00:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

She is gay (no, really)

A certain dialoge can be accessed that will reveal she once loved a girl. It is Brotherhood tradition that couples procreate, which a gay couple would not be able to do. She will mention that her own parents did not mind the situation, but that the parents of her lover had a different stance. Her lover has since disappeared. --Radnus81.205.186.16 17:09, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't mean she's completely gay though.So far, that was only one instance. She does mention how hard it is to get a date in Scribe robes, so she could also be attracted to men as well, if she has tried dating since "the one that got away". Lordmalus 01:34, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
Um, why do you assume she's trying to get a date with men? I have lesbian friends who go "out on dates" -- with women. Wunengzi 02:49, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, agreed. You got me on the Scribe's Robes. --Radnus 02:03, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, no, NO! Your a dirty liar! I loved Veronica! How could this be? ---Legion- 00:07, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

If she's bi, all the better. YuriKaslov-M1911 small.jpg Yuri Kaslov 00:09, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

She's indeed gay, just try picking the "I want you to stay as close as possible" when talking about tactics and this is what she says: (to a female character) "hey now, you're gonna have to buy me dinner first" and (to a male character) "this is as close as I'll get until you turn into a leggy brunette".

Damn. I wanted to be the one to point that out x3. Robed lesbian with a power fist and obsession with punching things = love. Shinyd00meyes 12:41, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. (God I hope people don't get all into their fantisies and shizz) Robco Man 00:57, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

They should have put in a mission where you hook her up with the lesbian 1st Recon shooter at Camp McCarran.

IAWTC+++ :| Dog Thing 03:01, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think shes bi because ive heard her tell ramos hes looking sharp--Colonel sanders 22 01:31, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, she's entirely homosexual. She was simply complimenting/mocking Ramos that he looks prepared and able as usual/has a Tesla cannon up his rear end. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 07:50, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Adding that in the Bunker, she mentioned how uncomfortable it was when she ran into old boys she used to date... Wild Wasteland was on, in case it matters. ~~Swordser, 23:19, July 7, 2011

Veronica is so delightful and attractive the game designers probably had to make her inaccessible to the majority of players (statistically young males) or they would spend the rest of the game hitting on her, and would never try other companions. Just give it up and go shag Sarah over at Vault 21, she puts out easy, talks nice to you when she sees you, and the view is great when you follow her back up the stairs. RedVideo (talk) 23:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Gibson Shack

The reason she can decode the terminal message is because its part of her quest line. Should be noted. Remove this topic once corrected. --Radnus 02:05, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Paladin toaster

Ironicly, she will also equip the Paladin Toaster if given to her. (Havent tested out other unique Power Fists, the Toaster appears to be superior to the one she uses by default, thus causing her to use it). --Radnus 02:12, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Given a choice between a ballistic fist and a displacer glove, she will equip the latter even though the former does more damage. Wunengzi 01:58, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

That may be because her Strength SPECIAL is 7, and a Strength of 9 is required to get the full damage from the Ballistic Fist. The Displacer Glove only requires a Strength of 4. Gator Country 18:05, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I gave her Pushy and the PT; I take Pushy away if we're hunting robots, or facing someone in Power Armor. It worked great when we got confronted in Hidden Valley at the end of her quest. Tharnhelm 16:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


"She will not equip any weapons, just power fist for melee and 10mm for ranged."

Took this out of the Bugs section. Needs confirmation. It could just be that the original poster tried giving her weapons that weren't as good as her current ones - her 10mm pistol is in perfect condition and 10mms fire pretty quickly, giving it a deceptively large DPS. A better test is to give her a decent condition energy weapon, plus ammo. I've never had any problem giving her a multiplas rifle. As for her Power fist, she's got an Unarmed of 103. One Hundred and Freaking Three. The only melee weapon she'll consider equipping is an Unarmed weapon that's better than a Power Fist. Of which there aren't many. Zakrael 18:53, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

actually i think she'll equip anything that has a higher dps rather then over all damage, i handed her some spiked knuckles in only 25% condition and that replaced her original weapon. Similar thing happened when i handed her a 95% condition powerfist and a 95% spiked knuckle she kept the spiked knuckle on.

EDIT: Also, removed the list of weapons she can equip. Veronica (and, presumably, all companions) will equip ANY weapon that is an improvement over their current ones. There aren't many melee weapons that will make her better, but pretty much any decent condition energy weapon is an improvement over her 10mm. Zakrael 18:59, October 26, 2010 (UTC) (Again)

i gave veronica my super-sledge and she chooses that over unarmed altogether

I gave her a near mint plasma rifle and she wouldnt use it. She would use an Assault Carbine however, so I guess she soes pick based on DPS. TJbrena 16:29, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I gave her the Q-35 Matter Modulator and she equipped it as soon as I told her to used ranged. Also, I asked her to carry some (top-condition) spiked knuckles and she prefers those over her power fist, but she seems to be more effective with the power fist.-- 18:37, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fast Travel Glitch

OK, I fast-travelled from Crimson Caravan to Mojave Outpost and she's disappeared completely. Will she catch up eventually, or do I have to go find her? If so, where is she? Any help is appreciated. --JohnnyVoodoo 00:28, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think she's disappeared completely, but sometimes companions appear in really weird places when you go through loading screens. "Weird" meaning "impossible to reach". It'll be quicker to reload the last save you made before fast travelling. Zakrael 13:04, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Not getting Scribe Counter

Reverse pickpocketed the Formal Wear from a white glove member in the Ultra-Luxe, gave it to Veronica and got the dialogue of her thanking me for the dress and offering to teach the move. I accept, the screen fades to black and returns and... nothing. The perk does not appear in the list. I reloaded several times and it never worked. Ranger takedown appears in my perk list but not this.

Does it have a minimum Unarmed requirement? Could the fact that I have completed her quest I Could Make You Care have any effect? Though it shouldn't since I still get the dialogue about the giving her the dress and her offering the move.(On PS3)Dr. Lobotomy 16:23, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Same thing happened to me. Good thing I ignore Unarmed anyway! TJbrena 16:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think the problem is some kind of bug that allows you to have only one melee perk. It happened to me too as Ranger Takedown is working but I don't get the Scribe Counter. I haven't had the opportunity to check on the other melee guy in Caesars tent yet. xNOKIx 18:27, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what you are playing on, but playing on the Xbox360 I have a character with the Legion, Ranger, Great Khan and Scribe perks. DarthOrc 00:58, June 16, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Attacks Legion regardless of standing?

Either the person who added that is mistaken or my game is bugged. I've taken her to Cottonwood Cove among other places without her or any Legion NPCs becoming hostile.

I've been wondering about that too. On the PC version Veronica will only commence an attack on the Legion if they are already hostile (red on compase), if they are not, she will tag along and leave the Legion alone. The person who added must have had its version of the game bugged. -- Radnus 21:10, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm confirming: she won't attack Legion unless given a good reason. Maybe someone should edit the page (n00bie here) -- leLoir

Lucky 38

Where does she go when I send her to the lucky 38?

Tag your posts. And surprisngly, she goes to your room in the lucky 38. She just takes a while travelling. UraniYum 16:22, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes she will go to the bedroom with 2 beds and sleep. DarthOrc 01:00, June 16, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

After the patch they just teleport there.

Negative Health?

Veronica randomly fell unconcious and accumulated a large amount of negative health.

E.T. Go Home ?

So I was right in the middle of Vault 3 getting that part for the Brotherhood when Veronica engages me into dialogue, talkin about how she wants to go home coz she misses her people or whatnot and if you open up a dialogue with her there's the option to say "I'm ready to take you to Hidden Valley". Is this somethin that happens often, or is it like part of her sidequest? I never did the sidequest properly coz I bought the gun off the kid in freeside too soon without realizing. --Penumbra 05:31, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

When you bring her back you both talk to the Elder and Veronica voices her opinion and displeasure with the rules of the Brotherhood. It doesn't take long, your in and out in no time but it starts more quests and eventually your able to join the Brotherhood, I joined but haven't found out if that was a good move yet.

Not Leveling

My Veronica on the Xbox is not leveling neither. Her health stays at 215. Anyone know if Bethesda acknowledge this?

Same with PC and PS3, could be intentional. UraniYum 16:33, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

I have a feeling that her not leveling has to do with her Unarmed skill being over the naturally allowed limit. Might be causing the game engine problems when trying to improve her skills as a part of her leveling up. Thoughts? --Carthiah 22:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Intentional doesn't really make sense..Her health stays at 215 and gets slaughtered easily at high levels even having Power armor.

The over 100 unarmed skill may be a cause though. Guess us PS3s and Xboxs are screwed...

I think it is intentional. She starts with 103 unarmed skill and an amazing 270 HP (on PC). Awesome companion, she can immediately wear power armor and use energy weapons very efficiently. The only drawbacks of this character are she can't sneak efficiently and she does not level. But remember the other companions are limited to level 20 and they can't use power armor. Compare with Cass : at level 20 she has only 285 HP and her best possible armor is the reco. 15 HP more but 8 DT less... --Croquignol 04:58, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Veronica on my PC version starts with 215, but I recruited her at lvl 5. 270 HP is if you wait until which lvl to recruit? I installed the mod that let her level, and what happens is she kills just about anything before I could land a hit, thus making the game kind of boring. And when she does go out of commission, I'm almost not long behind...

EDIT: Veronica not leveling is an in game bug. The developers recently confirmed this is a bug that will most likely be rectified in the next patch. but I'm not sure if it has been rectified in patch 1.2.

Veronica has 310 HP for me on Xbox 360, I'm at level 27 03:16, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lost Love

The girl who left the Brotherhood, whom she once loved. Does she come up in a quest somewhere? Or could that be future DLC material?

To my knowledge, that was way back out in California, not the Mojave. She's still make an interesting encounter, though. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 10:03, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Her lover is christine from the dead money DLC

That isn't comfirmed, but is highly rumored, mainly because of Christine's pantos. Plus, there is a mod, on non-live xbox and pc that allows you to take Christine with you out of the Madre, and you can have both of them in your party, but if you open up dialogue with one, even on normal mode, the other dies, and the first one cries. So it probably is Christine, no confirmation though

Cries? So the death of one of them will trigger a cry reaction from the other? That's almost confirming the fact, since somebody at the studio will have to program that in, with a good reason. Pity interaction between them doesn't go any beyond that!


Someone said that she will attack any unnamed legion. This is untrue, as i went to the Fort many times with her in my party, and no one turned hostile on her, nor did she attack any of them. This should be edited out, but my game may be glitched.

No, you're game isn't glitched. I also went to the fort many times with her during my Caesar's Legion playthrough. --Liam1127 10:36, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

No mention of her post-Hoover Dam fate?

I just finished the game and oddly the recap in the credits mentions all of the companions (even Rex and ED-E) but says nothing about Veronica or Boone. Anyone know if you must fulfill criteria or if she simply has no post-game fate?

--When I finished it said she went on to wander the wasteland and eventually die, I think. Even though I personally killed her when she left me, because I killed the BoS. (She tried leaving with lots of equipment, so I had to kill her to get it.)

She is mentionned in the endings, and the endings are weird. Apparently Cass commited suicide for some unfathomable reason and bright's disciples came back from their interstellar trip to defend Novac against the defunct Caesar Legions... No comment. Maybe it depends of the game. Next time try to ignore her completely, if she is a total stranger perhaps you'll get a long, long story about her. 18:34, December 30, 2010 (UTC) I got one where it said she found her lost love, but they were were too different for each other and parted ways. she later committed suicide out of grief. has anyone else got this, cause I think it's a crap ending for a brilliant character92.16.126.159 18:34, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Crap ending maybe, but totally realistic. Veronica is an idealist, and she's already had her extended family, the BoS, betray her hopes and commit itself to self-destruction. As you can hear from her comments when she sees advanced tech that the Brotherhood won't consider, she has developed a very strong sense of futility (see also her bleak remarks about the death of her parents, who "died fighting somewhere... I can't remember.... I guess it must have been important.") A romantic disaster on top of that could easily have pushed her over the edge. What would she have to live for? Wunengzi 02:11, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Veronica = Tifa Lockheart?

Am I alone found Veronica somewhat similar to Tifa Lockheart from Final Fantasy VII? Master Mold 19:50, November 7, 2010 (UTC)


Science as a Tag skill?

Seriously? What a waste. It would be one thing if you could order your companions to hack computers for you. That's actually a brilliant idea and Obsidian should have implimented that ability, so that you could pick companions based on a complimentary skill set. But as things are now, isn't having Science as a tagged skill useless to the player, since it has no impact on combat, which is the only thing companions are useful for? Servius 15:48, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

She is a BOS Scribe, science makes more sense than Barter or survival for a scribe...

She also has the perk of allowing the player to craft in any location, and science goes towards making energy weapon ammo

BoS Reputation

According to the article, if you meet her prior to destroying the bunker she will join then leave. However, I destroyed the bunker before meeting her and I seem to be able to keep her for as long as I want. My reputation with the BoS is 'soft-hearted devil'. This appears to be because I hacked the turret control terminal and caused the devices to attack the BoS, and thus the turrets, not me, did most of the killing. I theorize that her following you seems to be based on your BoS reputation. However, New Vegas, like Fallout 3, is glitchy game (I know, 'what else is new?'), so I would like someone to discuss this.--DrMGinius 18:15, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was able to keep her as well. --Pongsifu 10:19, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Another kind of dress?

After gaining the Scribe Counter attack from the dresses in the UltraLuxe, I ended up going back to the Nipton Town Hall, which I had previously skipped over.

A few of the dead civilians inside the town hall are wearing Caravaneer Outfits. Giving one of these to Veronica caused her to exclaim "Aw, you shouldn't have! It's just my taste. Thank you."

Apparently this item also qualifies as a "dress". Garzahd 19:47, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. It is under the "skirt outfits" list and the script checks if the cloth you give her is in this list. This list is mainly used for the sitting animation of female characters but conveniently used also in this script. For female characters the caravaneer outfit is indeed a dress.--Croquignol 05:20, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

How do you recruit her?

A friend of mine told me that she was a possible companion, so I want to get that achievement (i'm on 360) where you get all the followers.

I remembered I encountered her before I knew she was possible companion, and that I talked to her with all the conversation options before, but nothing came of it. And now I'm talking to her again and my only option is goodbye. Did I mess up the opportunity for her to join me? If not then how do I get her to follow me?

many things could have happened: you could have to many followers (ED-E or rex and any other human follower or lily), you could have killed the brotherhood thus causing her to hate you, or the game could just hate you, as bethesda games like this hate all, and decided to bar you from getting her. but if you have the PC version, just use the gamers best friend: Console commands! i don't know the specific commands for this situation, but i'm sure it's somewhere on this wiki. sincerly, 03:58, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You can't get her as a companion if, during the initial conversation, you tell her you dont like the BOS. I had not had any contact with the BOS when I tried to recruit her, but I did tell her I dont like the BOS. Now the only speech option is 'goodbye'. Maybe this should be in the article? 14:40, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

I cannot get veronica as a companion? Can anyone help me?

Every time I talk to her this happens...

    "Couldn't get enough of talking to me huh?"
    "I'm ready to travel with you."
    "Good. I hoped you would come around. Shall we?"

And then my only option is...

    "I'd like to, but I can't take you with me right now."

What is it that i have not done and how do i get her to become my companion. I Have tried this with multiple characters on my file and cannot do it, but when my brother uses his file he can do it just fine.

Do you have a companion with you already?--DrMGinius 13:11, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
Do you have a Mechanical and human or super mutant companion with you already? you're only allowed to have one of each, or only 1 companion in the case of the super mutant.

I have had both Lilly and Rex as companions at the same time. (xbox360) DarthOrc 01:06, June 16, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc

Lily (the Nightkin/Super Mutant) is humanoid for the companion limits, you're allowed one robotic (Rex, Ed-E) and one one humanoid (everybody else). -- 00:32, June 20, 2011 (UTC)


Is it possible to get her to wear a dress without console commands?

Joshua A

Her default wear is the scribe's robe, which will only be replaced by anything with higher DT... so a dress won't go on without console command.

Quest unable to start

I have visited several of the required locations,and yet the quest refuses to start.Dont find this in the bug section have anyone else encountered this problem?

It happens only after she confronts elder Mc Namara. Try wandering a bit until she says something. But you must speak to her, she will not engage the subject on her own. --Croquignol 05:25, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Leaving after BOS Bunker destroyed

Does anyone know if she still leaves you as a companion when you blow up the Hidden Valley Bunker after you have finished her companion quest, I Could Make You Care, and had her leave the Brotherhood of Steel? -- 09:32, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, she left me when I did that. 00:06, March 18, 2011 (UTC)Kaz

She stays IF you send her to The Lucky 38 before destroying the bunker. --Liam1127 10:40, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

The Tops

After leaving The Tops after a gunfight with Benny, I had been surprised to find her unique 10mm pistol and her Power Fist in my inventory. She would not use any weapons I have given her, and after sending her back to the 188 Trading Post, I keep hearing her phrase "I'm gonna need a new pair of limbs." Her weapons can not be given back to her and if dropped, it says "Steal" with an X icon (PS3) and you can't pick it back up. Any improvised fixes? Nukey talk 03:21, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

only fix i know of is to reload a save, and keep reloading. eventually, the doorman MIGHT give her the equipment. i don't know.

hidden valley glitch

okay so I started Veronica's side quest and every time i try to talk to the Elder I can't. I'll click on him but I wont enter dialogue with him. Could this be happening because I haven't done the Still in the Dark quest line? oh and this is on the 360 version.

--Yukimoda 22:19, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

You won't be able to talk to McNamara until she talks to him first. Wait for a few seconds, or move away if you are standing in between the two. I believe this only happens if you any one of the three pieces of technology (Pulse Gun/Euclid's C-Finder/Farming tech) and thus initiates Veronica's plea to the Elder. --Hydroforge 13:33, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

I can hear her pain!

Went to visit the boomers. Left Veronica and ED-E on the road so I could run through the artillery by myself. I had a limb crippled during my approach, and occasionally I could hear "pain noises", so I assumed that was me. Fixed the limb, and went on my merry way, only to hear the noises again a bit later. Went and retrieved my companions and it turns out they were wounded by splash damage from the artillery, and the pain noises were coming from Veronica, even thought she was near Field's shack, and I was at the air base - (not to mention NPCs who kept referring to my robot, even though it wasn't there...) I'm sure this happens with all of the companions.

Need Armored Skirt

The Developers need to add an Armored skirt to the game in one of the DLCs so we can finally give Veronica an outfit she both likes and is willing to wear without being forced to through console commands.Plus an armored skirt is basically already a pun/nod at the whole trope of the chainmetal bikini.-- 00:54, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Someone already made a mod for that, but it looks odd. It's like trying to combine Northface and Prada in one article of attire - go ahead and try to convince any woman to wear that, whatever it may be.

She should just put the dress on over the robe (at least with Wild Wasteland). That would be hysterical! 00:08, March 18, 2011 (UTC)Kaz

Technically a lot of the Legion armor looks like skirts. I don't think she will wear that factions stuff.

Still in the Dark/I Could Make You Care conflict?

I was heading into Vault 3 to get the last items needed for completing "Still in the Dark" when Veronica's dialogue for "I Could Make You Care" was triggered. I told her to wait on it a while, then I went in and retrieved the air filter parts. After leaving the vault, I then spoke to her and informed her I was taking her home, so her quest was then offered. Upon returning to McNamera, she had her dialog with him before I could inform him I had given the parts to Lorenzo. After they finished, I spoke to McNamera about fixing the air filter, and he told me the Brotherhood would be venturing out of the bunker. I then looked at Veronica's quest, and didn't see any new objectives, or see any map markers relating to it. Her quest seemed "stuck". Is this because completing "Still in the Dark" achieves her goal of getting the Brotherhood out of isolation? Or, because prior to starting her quest I had also completed "That Lucky Old Sun" without diverting power to Archimedes II, and gotten the Pulse Gun from Vault 34, and completed "There Stands the Grass" (all related to the samples of tech she wants to bring as proof to McNamera that they should leave the bunker), did this make it so she couldn't go find anything to show to McNamera? Will I be able to complete her quest??-- 18:55, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can do the two quests at the same time (I did). If you completed That Lucky Old Sun without diverting the power to Archimedes II, then that just won't be one of the three options. After she confronts him she should just say "lets go, he isn't going to change his mind" and then later down the hall say she couldn't believe he wouldn't listen. Through dialogue you can convince her that there has to be another way to convince him, which leads to the next part. If she doesn't initiate a conversation, try talking to her directly outside the bunker. --Pongsifu 10:34, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Keeping Veronica and destroying the BoS Bunker

A few people have said they were able to keep Veronica after destroying the bunker and it needed to be verified so I did it, it is indeed possible. Here is what I did:

  • Completed Veronica's quest, I Could Make You Care (may not be necessary).
  • Did the entire Still in the Dark quest line, keeping McNamara as elder (I don't know if it makes a difference who is Elder but since his quest line is longer/harder I thought it might give more rep).
  • Did the missing laser pistol side quest
  • Did the isolating the virus side quest
  • Pickpocketed the three keycards, used a stealthboy, activated the self destruct sequence and left without fighting or killing anyone. Someone else said they were able to keep her after activating the turrets to turn on the BoS but I wanted to keep casualties as low as possible (none) through direct conflict as I wasn't sure if it would affect anything.

After all that was done I had the Soft-Hearted Devil reputation with the BoS and Veronica didn't react at all, she is still my companion (she was waiting outside the bunker when it exploded since she wouldn't go inside). --Pongsifu 10:25, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

I got her to stay by doing similar (never found the pistol). I'm guessing you just work with them until you are idolized to buffer the massive tank in reputation after blowing them up. While she did stay, she did threaten to leave if I continued to fight them (won't be a problem!). I think the lengthy note in the article about how to keep her by sneak-killing everyone should be changed to something simpler about earning a high BoS reputation. 00:17, March 18, 2011 (UTC)Kaz

Veronica's father and mother - why are people changing this?

People keep changing the line that says "Veronica's father was a paladin and her mother was a scribe," switching father and mother back and forth. I checked her dialogue, and she says her father was the paladin and her mother was a scribe. Is there another line that says the opposite, or is this just some really subtle vandalism? --Dmunsil 21:24, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

My fault, i got her confused with that other bird, the scribe assistant one. Clueless93 21:31, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dead Money speech extras?

I found the tape in elijahs bunker tried talking to her, but isn't she supposed to say something else after dead money?

Related to this, what do the perks listed on the page actually do? Usernametaken 00:39, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
I see someone linked them in the article. Thanks Usernametaken 17:45, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

When Veronica is your companion, it is is possible that she will not respond to any of the 'triggers' for the quest I Could Make You Care.

So I have just ran into this bug on the 360, and I don't know what else to do. I've tried telling her to leave, then regroup with her. I've tried all of the triggers, none of them work. Is there no way around this?

Right Handed Tattoo

Recently I let Veronica join my party and gave her the Love and Hate Spike Knuckles. I then proceeded to do her "I Could Make You Care" loyalty quest. When she was talking to Elder McNamara I noticed that on her right hand there was some black symbol. I wasn't able to see the entire thing only the back of her hand. Just wanted to know if someone could investigate this to see if she may have her entire right arm tattooed. Just need to find something sleeveless that has more than 6 Damage Threshhold. -Tomo Stryker

I don't think tatoos could appear ingame due to the gamemechanics. Though there might be a unique wear, similar to the pip-boy.

Unless you have a weird body replacer installed, she's not tattoed. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 13:26, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well if it wasn't a tattoo than what black marking was on the back of her hand? Or was it part of her "Armored Robes"?

Not a tattoo at all my friend. The love and hate suffers from a texture glitch that only effects female characters. -sum guy

an very evil thought

wat if u left her there when you have it under self destruction while the bos guys are hostile just fire veronica and i think she will fight the bos members escape then boom. just a evil thought also you can get any companion you dont want to see again.

i think you should buy the Logic Co-Processor implant. Only 3000 caps for you. 14:25, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

i dont know why

for some reason i think shes hot and cass too. i really dont know why

yes, her model is very beautiful. If you want to see her face and hair without resorting on cheats or console commands, give her the Space Suit Helmet or a pair of glasses than a ballcap with glasses (she uses only the glasses, not the cap). But shit, her fate on the game is sad, very sad. Brfritos 02:57, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I think she looks good (for a video game character), and I think she's funny too. She's delightful. TheVaultDweller29

How are all the smart and funny ones ugly and the hot ones are as dumb as a pile of brahmin shit--HaroldWannabe360 03:58, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Cass and Veronica are dumb, and I definitely think they are both hot and funny. I love them as companions, 'cuz they make me laugh: they're both pretty snarky. But as I mentioned above, I prefer following them around the Lucky 38 while they wear the Chinese stealth armor I stole for them at Hoover Dam. Tharnhelm 16:44, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


Just got her, and I opened her inventory to see if she would wear legion armor, and it said the disguise thing, and my L stick and R stick would move through inventory nor did RT and LT.Xbox 360 version. Can anyone else confirm?--TheReaver74 20:20, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Possible post fallout 3 meaning?

Possible Post fallout 3 Reference

When saying that One chapter of the BOS had a small civil war which is possibly referencing the capital wasteland chapter I would personally like to direct you to the word HAD which possibly means that the war between the BOS and the outcasts is over Cloudstrife133 19:25, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Technically speaking the Outcasts and the Capital Wasteland BoS aren't at war, they are dissident groups that don't step on each other foots. You never see Outcasts attacking the BoS headquarters or BoS interfering with Outcasts operation. They are different groups, that after "a war" between them gone in separate paths. Brfritos 04:22, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

negativ karma for naughty nightwear

i deleted it, tried it on pc and it didn't give me any karma --Ra1n 02:24, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

So much nicer than Fawkes from Fallout3

Fawkes was unbearable. Every time I'd talk to him, he'd say "SOMETHING! TROUBLING YOU! MY FRIEND!" Always shouting. And blocking doorways, the big palooka.

But Veronica says funny stuff like "Does jumping at them with my fist count as ranged?", doesn't block doorways, doesn't shout all the time. Ahhh Veronica, keep up the good work!!! 06:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Him being annoying with all the yelling is hardly noticeable when he can easily slaughter the entire Enclave Modbile Base Crawler by himself. Agree with you about her lines, though.

Huuugee glitch involving BoS bunker

Game just glitched so badly. Siding with Caesar and he's just told me to blow the BoS bunker up. thought i'd pick veronica up so i wouldn't have as much trouble with them. went to 188 to get her and forgot the NCR hated me, had to fight pretty much everyone there. got veronica and went off to the hidden bunker. Went inside, down all the stairs and was greeted by ramos, who took me to see the Elder. talking to him starts me on Still In the Dark, which i kinda wanted to do anyway for the XP. forwards me to outside the entrance next to the intercom, where veronica is stood continuously saying "see you around". I cant move, or bring up my pipboy. no hud. nothing. loaded a save just before Ramos and tried to get rid of Veronica. wont even let me fucking talk to her. Kill her, and she gets up 5 seconds later as if nothing happened. can't loot her body or anything. Presumably the only thing i can do now is go in to the bunker all guns blazing, but considering my setup is a stealth sniper, this wouldn't be wise. Any Ideas anyone?

Not There

I went to the 188, looked around alot, an shes not there. I'm on PS3, is this a bug?

Hair please

Can we get an overarching thing going where we can see what people like Veronica and Cass look like without hats in the gallery. I hear people say oh just put on a space helmet but this would just make it easier. 23:47, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I just added the picture to the page. -therenegadenail

Side quest bug fix

On the main page there are several fixes such as downloading a mod or remembering to initiate the second conversation before she does. I saw a pretty simple fix on Youtube where you circle her with bombs, then blast her off the ground in 1 shot. That seems pretty simple and resets her after she dropped back down. But this will only work for non-hardcore mode tho...


I killed one NCR trooper and now she asks "whats up"? Every few seconds. To fix this I sent her to the lucky 38. And she never arrived.


As I was speaking with Veronica, she mentioned she had had a female lover earlier in her life in the BoS. I politely declined her offer to join me (Boone was standing right there), but at the mention of the unnamed woman, Boone pulled out his .50 cal and blew her head off. I don't mean he blew her head up into little pieces, I mean when he shot her entire body exploded into little tiny bits and covered the ground in blood. It startled me to a great degree, but as I stood there, staring at the blood puddles and raining body parts, I decided it didn't involve me and no retribution was necessary. I'm still at a loss at to what kind of AI bug would cause Boone to do such a thing, so it's probably a glitch. On an unrelated note, very shortly before this happened I lost track of about ten C4 detpacks and I never found them again. -- 16:58, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


Does anyone else find it odd that all of her endings are depressing? I mean for everything in the end slides there is usually a depressing ending, one or 2 neutral endings, and a good ending. But for Veronica all of her endings are depressing.

I know Right. The Closest Ending To Being Happy Is The Brotherhood of Steel And New California Republic Truce but Even Then She Ends up Alone. I Wish There Was Just 1 Happy Ending Like She Leads The Brotherhood Down a New Path. --Ullyses = Epic 12:18, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

This makes the game more like real life. While FNV lets you be the master of your own fate, and allows you to choose the destiny of tribes and even nations, it's important to know that there are some things you just can't fix. Including the fate of (arguably) the games most endearing NPC.RedVideo (talk) 23:50, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

"Natural Causes" is a general statement

I have removed the note that says Veronica says the line "Probably would have died of natural causes anyway" after killing Hell's Grannies (Malefic Maud, etc), due to the fact that that's one of her general "Done killing things now" lines.

Bad Dialog

Is it Impossible to get her if you talk bad about the BoS?

Platinum Chip dialog error?

If you ask her about the Platinum Chip she says she thinks it was made before the war, but then goes on and says "mid 2200s"

Obviously the 2200s are not pre-war, so is this an oversight or did I miss something?

  • I noticed the same thing when I was playing. I think it's an oversight. Unless there was some cut dialog, or a comment on how advanced it is, it's just another typo.-- 01:53, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Dad was a Paladin, Mom was a Scribe

Is the correct dialogue. Talk to Veronica, select "Tell me about yourself.", select "Do you have any other family in the Brotherhood?", she states "Just my parents, but they haven't been around for a long time. Dad was Paladin, Mom was a Scribe. They died in the same battle trying to hold off the NCR from... something. I don't remember what is was. Guess it seemed important at the time." Great Mara 09:27, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Console Command for Dialogue Reset?

Is there a console command to reset her dialogue at all? I'm almost level thirty and she will not join me at all. Even if I have all of my companions dismissed she doesn't give me the option to let her join. All I can figure is during my initial conversation with her I must have chosen to say something negative about the BoS. I was hoping to reset the dialogue so I could start over and get her to join me.

Veronica Glitch Question.

I saw that there's a Veronica Glitch to have all the humanoid companions on one group (No idea how I'm gonna keep them all alive in hardcore mode). X( I was wondering, is there a Glitch or non-Mod method I can use to have both the dog and EDE in my party at the same time as well? :? Sorry for the anonimity, I'll get an account soon. X(


How do we know that's Veronica's middle name? I don't remember anyone or anything mentioning her middle name. Is there a holotape or something in Old World Blues that mentions her middle name? 07:54, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

It was mentioned in one of the previews. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 11:45, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lost her Head!

No, literally, she did. We were in Vault 11, retrieving the Hidden Valley bunker air filtration components. I opened a door to the reactor, she rushed in (as usual) to bash some bugs, and when she turned around, NO HEAD! She was still standing and talking, but there was nothing above her neck. I ran out of the room screaming; she followed me, and when I turned around, her head was thankfully back.

Has anyone else had this happen? -LawdyMissMaudy 21:34, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Melee skill 100?

I've read that her melee skill is 100 (or can be at a certain level). Anyone can confirm that? That would make Elijah's perks worth considering. SkyHiRider 18:39, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

valence thingy

the bugs section says that when she wears the valence accentuator thing she turns bald like christine but is this really a bug? because it turns everyone bald. -The Polar Bear lives 03:26, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

As I recall, the valence is marked as "hair", not as "hat", which is why you can combine it with certain helmets. So that would explain why she shows as bald when wearing just that.


It says that its not certain that Christine is her lover because it's mentionned in game that her lover left the brotherhood, but Christine is no longer BOS she is with the Circle of Steel, so it's almost certainly her.

Vera's Outfit

So the section on giving Veronica a fancy dress to get her to a) give you her quest and b) teaching you the unarmed special move... It said that Vera's outfit from the Dead Money DLC would work and I did not find this to be the case. She did not react at all to having that dress put into her inventory. This was a fresh play through, so I hadn't given any other dresses at this point. So I changed it to say that Vera's outfit DIDN'T work, but this may change in the future or possibly my game was glitched? Anybody find anything different? --- TandyBomb 04:40, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Rather than saying it does not work, why not remove it outright? Or you could add it under notes with a {verify} category next to it. I know they're only meant to be for bugs, but I don't see why they can't be used for other things. Yes Man default.png 04:42, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
Well, Veronica is looking for a fancy, elegant, feminine dress. And that outfit is pretty much the nicest thing I've ever seen in a Fallout game ever, it's nicer even then the White Glove Society attire, AND you can get two of them. So of course you think of giving one to Veronica. I think it's worth mentioning that it doesn't work.

--- TandyBomb 04:47, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, I see your point. Well, if you tried it just then and it didn't work, I say that you made the right choice. I myself did not try it, but thinking logically, the game would really only need one outfit to complete the requirements. It makes more sense that way, in my opinion. If anyone tries it and it works, then they can change the page later on. Yes Man default.png 04:52, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Felicia Day

I've just noticed her face factions resemble felicia day somewhat, does anyone know if they take the original voice actors face as a model to make the character, much like they do in most CG animated movies nowadays?

Recon Helmet

I was trying to find a helmet that doesn't cover her face that she would wear because the sound of people's voices with a full helmet on annoys me. I was trying to give her the Recon helmet because I thought it would let decent with the Power armor I gave her, but she won't wear it. She just keeps the hood on. Is this a bug or what? It's not like it has no DR or anything. :P Gary 42 02:35, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to go into a save and try to find one since, for some reason, this wiki hates helmets so I don't have the stats handy. (The article on recon armor doesn't include info on the helmet and searching for Recon Helmet in the search bar redirects to Recon armor.) But it's possible that the recon helmet isn't as good as the one she wears by default? Just a guess. --- TandyBomb 15:38, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Veronica's 10mm

I could NOT get Veronica to put away the 10mm pistol, which is extremely frustrating, but then, as soon as I gave her ammo for a higher DPS weapon (i.e. a Plasma Rifle) she switched. So: Give her AMMO and a weapon. Problem solved.

Oddly, I can't use her to stick with the 10mm Pistol. She keeps using the Power Fist when taking on dangerous enemies, like Legion Fireteams and Deathclaws, and is quickly beaten by their Thermic Lances/Super Sledges and... claws. Real annoying. IsaacKronenFaust 08:44, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Companions will switch weapons depending on the situation, for instance, even with Boone if an enemy gets close he may switch to his machete or the strongest close combat weapon in his inventory. User:Great_MaraMessage 08:59, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait a second. So her name's Veronica

And she's directly involved in a quest surrounding Archimedes II... And when you get the weapon to use the satellite, its ammunition is called "ARCHII"...? That is so lame. Shouldn't someone note it somewhere in the article? 05:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

What are you getting on about? Shadowrunner(stuff) 14:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Archie. The comic book. The one with a lot of 50's stuff making up its imagery. You know. Main character's name was Archie. He had a relationship with a girl, Betty. A third girl, Veronica, was often trying to win Archie over.... Look I'm not saying its the most interesting reference, or the funniest, or even a good one. But its simply not probable that it would be a freak coincidence. It can't be. 22:31, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't the statement that she was involved with Christine be removed?

It's never directly stated, only implied. The article itself acknowledges this, so why does it say that they were lovers? 23:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Because that is a logical conclusion supported by all the available evidence. It's the developers' intent. Plus, the article is up for a rewrite anyway, so I'll look for direct references. Tagaziel (talk) 06:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree that it's the logical conclusion, but since I don't see anything that directly states it in either of their dialogue, I just think the article shouldn't treat it as fact. Just my two cents. 18:54, 4 February 2019 (UTC)