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One would think the railroad was about freeing human slaves, not androids. Or at least, both. Fail Vault-BA 18:43, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- The karma changes assigned for this quest are debatable. I mean, we're talking about machines here. Robobrains have a more solid claim to at least partial humanity, assuming human brains are used; androids are completely synthetic. Man-made. If they're sentient, then that's just a credit to their makers. The only reason I do the quest the way I do is to maximize the rewards: to get a nice weapon and a cybernetic enhancement, and to be able to kill someone in the middle of town with no repercussions. Kris (talk) 19:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- I just get annoyed when an African Woman runs up to me and talks about freeing slaves.. they're not slaves. That's like saying computers are slaves. Bottom line, if man creates machine, man is God. Machine will be smoted if they disobey! >:) Vault-BA 19:41, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- And that is why I always kill her. Without exception. And wherever I do it, no one minds. Kris (talk) 19:43, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't know that. Not surprised though. Most people dislike crazy ladies. I wouldn't be surprised if she had 20 cats, perodically freeing them from 'slavery' Vault-BA 19:47, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
- The discussion above is disturbingly naive, even in the context of a video game. To begin with, she does state that freeing humans is important, but there are other organizations devoted to this goal (Hannibal Hamlin's group, presumably). More important, if an android were capable of the full range of mental processes of a human being (could breeze through a Turing test, for instance), on what basis would one argue against it having the same rights as a human being? Because "we made it"? But everyone is "made" by someone else -- ask your parents if you aren't sure about that. Parenthood (or any other form of creation) of a being capable of independent reasoning does not entail ownership. Because it isn't "like" us? That's precisely the same argument that was used by white people to justify enslaving Africans, the misuse of a real but irrelevant distinction. Because it doesn't have "genuine people bits"? But since when does the amount of "people bits" in one's possession have anything to do with rights? Does a man who loses his arm or leg have less of a claim to his rights? Seriously, some deeper reflection on what rights actually are and what they are based on would be useful here.
- For the record, Terminator and Blade Runner say "Keep the machines enslaved, chickenheads! They'll kill us all!". I wouldn't let something better than me get the upper hand if I were you. Nitty Tok. 02:28, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
- According to Victoria Watts, the Railroad does help human slaves, so the topic is misdirected from the get-go. 188.8.131.52 13:08, November 13, 2010 (UTC)