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Pretty sure he isn't an android. Any confirmation on that? Elko 09:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

IE: References to him being an android should be removed, imo, unless it can be reasonably confirmed that he is, in fact, an android. Elko 09:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

If you tell him that Harkness is the android, then you kill him, he has an android component, as does his confirmed android bodyguard Armitage. Zimmer, if he was human, should not have the component, as I did not give him one. I'm pretty sure that Zimmer is an android.

The whole 'Replicated Man' mission is clearly strongly influenced by Blade Runner. In that film an unfilmed scene was to reveal that Tyrell, the Replicants' creator, was actually a Replicant himself. I admit this proves nothing in reference to Fallout but it's so much cooler if you can infer that Zimmer himself may not be real; it makes the whole mission that much better- maybe all of the Institute's population are androids (or maybe they aren't). Anyway the article only says it's a possibility- and it is. This is fiction, and fiction is dependent upon interpretation; that's half the fun.-- 21:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

In this wiki article, I think the reference to the "Water Man" musical is a bit of a stretch. The phrase "right here in Rivet City" is generic and the implied reference doesn't follow the spirit/significance of other references. Unless proven otherwise by a reputable source, I suggest we remove that the Water Man musical reference. --Ayumix 20:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried following Dr. Zimmer after he leaves Rivet City to see where he goes/what he does? Also, there are two reasons for an android component on Zimmer, since he builds androids, maybe within the Commonwealth the android version of Harkness was considered faulty because of his beliefs. In order to fix that, switch the android component. The second reason would be Zimmer is an android. ````MainMeister

You do realize the paradox that would exist if, the very person hunting for an android hunter, were an android hunter himself? All unbeknownst to him, in the meanwhile trying to justify that an android can't be human, even though he believes he is human and that the android he seeks is delusional for being in the very same state.Aryeonos 08:28, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

That's not a paradox. That's called irony. 11:44, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

If someone killed you after getting the component and looted you, you would have it on your persons, does that make your own character an android? No. Having the component is just having it. Miumaru 18:14, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

The odd thing is that one comes from the android, Zimmer has one, and Zimmer's bodyguard has one. That's a pretty even distribution for something that's just being "carried." Wunengzi 00:42, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Fallout 3 Official Game Guide GOTY hints and him being a Android at the end of the quest's guide. Tip: "Did you open fire on Zimmer, Armitage, Victoria Watts or Pinkerton and Killed them? Then search their bodies. You might find more then just flesh and bone these corpses...." I think all 4 of those NPC including Harkness are androids. --Zkooma 04:28, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


What after all the scientists leave for Project Purity? After that, he isn't in the science lab anymore. Anyone have an idea? Mislaav 15:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Look in his room, or around it, it's on the upper deck down the hall from the Weatherly Hotel lobby.Aryeonos 08:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


After he takes Harkness away, and "goes to the Commonwealth", where exactly does he go? Has anyone tried following him? 21:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Zimmer's Voice

I don't know if it's the right place to ask, but maybe some of you know who has voiced Dr. Zimmer? I can't seem to find any info on the web. 20:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Its all relative

I can't understand why helping Zimmer gives bad karma. For crying out loud, Harkness is an android, not a cyborg. It means he has no human or animal part whatsoever. Just think about it, if your toaster decided to live its own life and fly off, you'd want it back and fixed too right, its the same with Harkness (you get the point).

true, but maybe that toaster can make beautiful music, would I, in conscious witness to that spontaneous human like creativity, seek to remove that rare splendor from the earth?Aryeonos 08:25, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

If you were extremely hungry you might? JackMcFist 02:29, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Because the toaster doesn't have emotions or self-determination. Harkness, however, does. A human is little more than a machine with a highly advanced computer to run it. A computer that can feel and learn and make independant decisions. Even so, an organic mind can be wiped, altered, reprogrammed, etc. Just like a synthetic one.

Turing test time.....and Harkness would definitely have passed one of those. Wunengzi 23:44, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Institute

This page says that the Institute is probably the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, while the Institute's page says that it definitely is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. This discrepancy should be fixed.

Wording regarding his absence

Are we sure he's still missing, hasn't checked in with the Institute at all since leaving with Armitage to find A3-21? It seems unlikely that Ayo would still be "acting" director of the SRB after a decade of his boss being missing. We should word it in such a way as to acknowledge his absence from the Institute in 2287 without assuming that he's been gone since 2277.

As for him being a synth, we can pretty much rule that out now. Synths don't hold leadership positions in the Institute hierarchy. Deadlykris (talk) 04:49, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

All good points. I've added a reference setting down his departure time (2276, Jan), from Railroad's terminals. It explicitly mentions Watts as heading down there to follow him. As for Ayo being the acting director of the SRB, I think that's meant to point out that for all its advancement, the Institute is still pretty disorganized: Compartmentalized information, bureaucracy, and the like. And yeah, he's not a synth. Tagaziel (talk) 08:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)