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Paper notes New Vegas

Hi Goth, I have taken a look at the New Vegas list of paper notes today and noticed quite a few Fallout 3 notes. Should't they be removed? Jspoelstra 16:39, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

  • Allright, Í'll run them through. Another thing, I've been working on unmarked quests recently, and some of them have notes attached to them, like Bounty Killer. I have added the transcript of the note to this questpage so you know what I mean. What you think? Or should the paper notes, with their transcript, just be listed on the overview page? And are there baseid's for unmarked quests?
  • It makes sense. And the baseid of unmarked quests?

Bugs template

Ok I have made those changes you asked for and they can be viewed in action here, the xxx-patch variable only requires the actual patch number for it to link to that patch. Its only a basic template as it was basic to begin with, and I am not great with the Wiki syntax =( I think at some point Porter needs to take a look at it to make it more robust. ☣Avatar☣ 18:52, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


I have an Xbox 360, a lot of geeky knowledge, and a few apps which can navigate the 360's hard drive format. -- Yukichigai 01:23, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. Note left. Dunno if you want that in a big fat template on the page itself too, but I'll leave that to your discretion. -- Yukichigai 01:32, January 17, 2011 (UTC)


Grrrrrrrr.... I shall chase of any anons with a pointy stick, if they get there hands on the flow charts. ☣Avatar☣ 02:46, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

One user with multiple accounts creating fake articles etc.

There is one user with what i think to be either multiple accounts, or they are editing other users pages, and they are setting all of these redirects to other user pages, so i was just wandering if you could sort it ouyt please? Theaccount names I've managed to find so far that are connected to the aformentioned user are; EatmyNuclearColeslaw TheDinnerofKimballisLegate AegisClans263 ErzaScarlet Thanks, --KieranBOS 12:04, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Deleted a legitimate character in New vegas.

I saw that on January 7th ( or was it 9th? ) you deleted a character from the archives. It was ' tops radio '. I would like to inform you that this is a real character that is found by glitching under the Lucky 38, and is the only terminal in the game that, for some reason, you can talk with. Just wanted to let you know. Alston Mumpower 00:38, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Flower of Pock-Lips

Best to keep a close eye on his edits. While he means well, some of them are rather questionable (like removing images). Ausir(talk) 14:34, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Deletion backlog

Hi Goth, I saw your comment in the deletion backlog. I'll try to stay ahead of the admins ;). I also noticed you recatogorized the eyewear category in New Vegas. In agreement with Shadowrunner I 'deactivated' this category some time ago, since there were only 4 entries in it and I thought it wasn't worth the trouble. I linked the pages that were in it (glasses and so on) to the armor and clothing category.

Another thing, I've seen users remove the ... appear in Fallout: New Vegas part at the bottom of pages. Is this allowed? And you can abbreviate my name (it's a typical dutch last name, northern part) to Jspoel, ok? Jspoelstra 16:00, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

  • slight correction: I did not place them in armor and clothing but in headwear.
Dont worry Jspoelstra, I will keep you a head of them since you are taking all the blame ;) as for the appearances section, it depends of the page in question. For example Items and Quest pages it is not part of the layout guide, but for Locations and Character it is (Which actually needs to be removed from the new page creation templates, for those pages that it is not part of the layout). ☣Avatar☣ 03:23, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


I love ur username! Hey. So nice to meet you but I got to explain that there are some that vandalizes my page leaving it blank. Can you help me? --ymailsucks 10:14, January 21, 2011 (UTC)


I was wrong, overseer. I was going to tell you really that an unregistered retard edited Yes Man and replaced the contents with a rick roll, thanks to our dear users, the vandaled page has returned to normal. --ymailsucks 02:56, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

My presents from the section "The vault's x-mas tree"

Hey, Gothemasticator! Can you add signatures to my profile's "The vault's x-mas tree" section to make my profile look nicer and to thank for the major helps? --GauzzRifle 12:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hoover Dam

I'd be lying if I said those reverts haven't annoyed me. I spent well over an hour on both of those articles, and I don't think the reasons you gave were sufficient grounds for a revert. The removal of the disambiguation link was a mistake on my part (although the bulk of the Van Buren information had been merged back into the article) because I had started the entire article again from scratch to try to conform exactly to the location article guidelines, as the revision you reverted to had a cleanup tag on it. It could have easily been re-added without a revert. Likewise, the gallery could have been re-added without reverting 1+ hours of work, although there wouldn't have been much point because the concept art was used in the article, and the remaining two screenshots are hardly worth keeping a gallery around for. As for the "prose", all but the last two paragraphs were taken from the Hoover Dam design document (and quite a bit of that was cut down). Even still, that could have been removed without reverting the rest of the edit, which if you look at the diff, changed substantially more than just the background and gallery sections.

A similar amount of effort was put into the New Vegas edit, your objection to which was that it added too much "fluff". All the information added to that article can be backed up by dialogue or other sources, none of it is opinion. If it's the wording of the information you're concerned about, the version you reverted to is not much better in that regard - it describes Caesar as a "vicious warlord", and discusses the "precarious balance of power" - but makes no mention of any of the families, or the Platinum Chip, or even any detail about House's plans. The reason that so much was added was because there really is that much to say about New Vegas. The difference between the two versions is that one lacks as much detail as the other, and I don't see how it makes sense to keep the version with less information. And again, the edit was far more comprehensive than just changing the background section, which is the bit you took issue with, but you reverted it all. --Flower of Pock-Lips 16:20, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


Hi Goth, I have written my proposal concerning slideshows and placed it in my sandbox. Can you take a look at it to see if it's written well enough for users to easy understand? Awaiting your response. Greets, Jspoelstra 17:51, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Weintraub edits

Hi Goth, Was my Sarah Weintraub Note edit so bad that it had to be entirely deleted? I'd appreciate it if you could offer me some advice on how to avoid this in the future. Did I miss something in the FAQs? I really put time and effort into anything I write and don't want to waste anyone's time having this happen. Thank you! :) --Sitting Duck 22:19, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Vegas and Hoover

Several points:

  • The first two examples you gave of "prosy language" weren't even me. As I said above (which you seem to have ignored), they are copied verbatim from the Hoover Dam design document, and if you don't have the time to go through that section and make it more encyclopedic, what makes you think that I do? While my revision may have issues, it is far better than the current six-line background section, and so from the point of view of a bunch of people trying to document a game - which is what we are - that is the one it makes more sense to keep. That's before we even get to the point that the part of the background section that applied to New Vegas was fine and could have been kept.
  • The only thing you seemed to have issue with on the Hoover Dam article (as the gallery and disambig tag were both restored) was the background section, so what the hell made you think it would be a good idea to revert the entire edit instead of just, I don't know, tagging the background section with a cleanup tag - as I did? The same applies to the New Vegas edit, which also went far beyond expanding the background section.
  • As I said above, which again you seem to have ignored, the current version of the New Vegas article also contains "prosy" language, just not as much information (or paragraph spacing). Again, if two versions are equally badly-written (as you seem to think to be the case), then why do you insist on keeping the one with less information, if not just to spite me?
  • I find the suggestion that I added the cleanup tag in the hope that someone else to do the work for me downright offensive, considering how much time and effort I had spent on that article. Me adding the cleanup tag was an attempt at compromise because it was you who had taken issue with my edits, not me, and as far as I can tell not anybody else. If anybody here is trying to get someone else to do the legwork, it's you.

--Flower of Pock-Lips 18:50, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

The majority of pages incorporating Van Buren information do not state explicitly that they are from a design document, and it's best that be the case as well in the Hoover Dam article so the information can be cut down and rephrased. But all of this is irrelevant, the point remains that despite the perceived flaws in the phrasing of a singular section, the the revisions I wrote up are unquestionably more informative and closer to the formatting guidelines than the current versions (one of them even has a cleanup tag!). So I can't for the life of me understand why you keep reverting them. --Flower of Pock-Lips 14:11, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Acoustic guitar

Fine, I reverted it. Another thing, about capping (again, seems like a neverending story). Some time ago I was decapping some location pages; Tezzla pegged me back, saying marked locations should be all capped, unmarked locations decapped. After reading the The Vault:Anti-capitalization project I agree with him on the marked locations, the unmarked ones I have my doubts about. But I've noticed Tagaziel (and maybe some other users) are or have been decapping location pages. So now we have a main location page fully capped, but the pages of the locations themselves, some are capped and some are decapped. There's no consistency. What's your take on this? Jspoelstra 21:31, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Crazed Mister Handy

Honestly, I dont get involved in what should and shouldn't be Capped anymore, I really cant figure it out as different people have different views on it, so I leave it to them to work it out. ☣Avatar☣ 14:26, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please explain why you blocked me

You had me blocked. I do not know what I have done wrong and I would please like to know why, so I can avoid getting blocked in the future. Thank you. ~ User:YesMan EDIT: I just see why you blocked me. You blocked me because I made an indirect contribution to an article. I consider myself a reasonable person, but from my point of view this block is just completely unnecessary.

I am wondering the same. Reason given is that i have tampered with other entries.... seems unlikely since it was my 1st attempt at editing?--Honestmistake 12:45, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Users page

Can you take a look at this users page User:SolidBoss, 2 anons have edited there page. ☣Avatar☣ 20:34, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Dear Sir, about my banning

How is my input into the forum gibberish and how does it offend/annoy you. The majority of my posts are merely idea's and speculation for furthur Fallout games.

Another thing is, when I have a legimate gameplay query ( which is rare), i get ignored. So yeah, when i have a question on how to complete a quest, i am overlooked, but when i am discussing the fascination world of Fallout, its considered gibberish and garbage. I hope i dont come across as a bit of a douchbag but quite frankly this is ridiculous.

Please unban me.

Regards Sec 19 00:56, January 29, 2011 (UTC) Sec 19

Unused Faces

Sorry, I could've sworn someone drew the Yes Man Faces, and the Victor face looked photoshopped, I saw no evidence in the notes that they existed, so I assumed they were fakes

Re: Regarding the hunting rifle

Thanks for the clarification. Eganio{Talk} 07:37, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


no need to make threats. sorry for upsetting you. i didn't find you talk page addressed to my IP address as an anon until just now. please bring further discussions to my user account talk page. i would love for more experienced editors to help familiarize me with standard operating protocol. i guess i was confused about the acceptability of posting game strategies because of the strategy video that had been posted previous to my edit and remained after mine was removed. i am glad to discuss the appropriateness of edits made by myself or others on topics i've taken an interest in, but please don't threaten me, that's just rude and unnecessary.

  • i have noticed that you are particularly hostile towards anons, by your own admission, and i do apologize for making edits without logging in from time to time. however, i do not have an enormous wealth of time to spend playing games and editing the vault wiki, and it's often faster for me to edit without logging in. i have developed a solid love for fallout since the first PS3 title was released and i've been an rpg fan since dragon warrior and final fantasy on nintendo and a FPS fan since wolfenstien 3D on PC. i find fallout to be a fantastic blend of both genres, and my only purpose for editing in the vault is to help others (and myself) achieve (accurate) understanding of the fallout world. ~~~kev~~~

re: strategy

i agree that i need to check my anon talk page periodically. as i am fairly new to this stuff, it was not until today that i realized i even have one. that is why i responded so cordially when i finally discovered it. i recognized that you acted reasonably given the circumstances. thank you for the apology, and i again apologize as well. thanks for removing the video, i re-posted the link under winning strategies on the talk page for the caravan (game) page. cheers!

  • oh, hell, also...
    i just realized that you are not the one i was thinking of who is hostile toward anons by your own admission. sorry about making that accusation... :o(

    i setup a redirect on my anon page for my user page. hopefully, that will help in the future.

Re: Hold 'em, Fold 'em

Ok, I was confused since it had been there for a long time and was removed by the anon IP that kept adding the strategy section back. --jimnms 18:06, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Caravan (games) page

in the bugs section next to the first bullet it talks about the exploit for winning the same amount of caps from "no-game-limit NPCs" in consecutive games when the NPCs cap total reaches a certain range as well as a cap limit that will cause the game to freeze if the NPC is beaten while holding more than the limit. i have found this to be true with dale barton, but i haven't tested johnston nash or no-bark, for their limits yet. however, i have done a lot of testing with ringo on my recent re-starting of the game. on my PS3, the data i've posted on ringo is absolutely correct and someone keeps deleting it entirely. 3 times now with out so much as an explanation. i have added my data for a 4th time and am still testing ringo. since i have beat him repeatedly for 14088 caps, i have explored and came back to him after several in-game days to play again. on the first game, he had raised his initial wager to 14957 (or something close to that... the last two digits i am not positive about at this very moment). at any rate, i matched his bid and beat him repeatedly at that stake. still he has not exceeded the max bid i have surmised will crash the game, but i will be checking back with him after a few more in-game days to see if he will raise his initial ante again and what will be the outcome playing with him if he does. i am just curious if you will take a look at this and tell me if you see a reason why my edit about ringo doesn't belong? thanks. ~~~kev~~~

i have been known to delight in challenges from time to time. i will give it a shot. i'm going to be spending most of my free time the rest of this weekend with my wife, but i will go for it as soon as i can get to it. i have an idea of how to accomplish what you ask on the page in question, but i think it would be appropriate to add individual NPC caravan traits on this subject to the respective wiki pages for those characters. i keep notes on what i've already done, and i can work on that as well. sound reasonable? ~~~kev~~~

Change Username?

Greetings Gothemasticator... Been a long time hasn't it? I was wondering if it would be possible to change my username to NevecRemnant. If it is possible you can change my username, and it can have spaces and such, please contact me I may have a different choice of a username. Thanks!

Neveras333 18:55, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Unmarked locations

Hi Goth, question about unmarked locations. Are all locations that don't appear on the Pipboy world map unmarked? I mean Boulder City appears on the world map, the Vikki and Vance Casino, Gomorrah, Atomic Wrangler Casino Corner Room, Nellis medical station etc. do not (they only appear on the local map). So should all locations pages that don't appear on the world map be moved to category unmarked locations? Or another possiblity, categorize them with marked location as well as unmarked location. Hope its's clear what I'm asking. And what about (de)capping the various locations? (see acoustic guitar above). Jspoelstra 00:37, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Justify your block

Hello there Sir,

I am writing on behalf of the username UIM (User:UIM), username that I own and that had been blocked for the second time on this wiki with no apparent reason. First of all, please excuse me for using another username if that violates the wiki's policies, but since you blocked UIM, I could not use it to submit this message.

Now, I would like to express my concerns directly to you, so here's what I do not understand:

First of all, you said that "I continued to add videos ignoring our policy.", statement that I strongly disagree with, as I have read the Image and Video policy carefully and all it says regarding embedding videos on articles is this: "Embedded videos may only be used in articles if they illustrate issues which cannot be expressed by written text at all or only with difficulty. Examples for acceptable videos are game trailers or a video illustrating how to find an item which is in a hard-to-find location." So far, I do not see how the policy disagrees with the type of videos I have been embedding, as I have only embedded videos that guide to hard-to-find or impossible-to-find items as well as walkthroughs for complex as well as simple quests. In my opinion and I believe in complete agreement with your policy, these videos are exactly what the wiki needs; else I wouldn't have gotten a total of 50.000 views just from fallout.wikia users in the limited exposure time that you and other admins gave to them.

Also in your comment you mentioned "You were warned above", so I assume you agree with Kingclyde's statement that I have "added unneeded videos", however, as mentioned above, I do not see why these videos are not needed!? All of the videos I posted when posted were on articles that didn't already have a video, or else I can assure you I would have never posted them. So far I have not been able to find a discernible reason for your blocks and even though I have not addressed the other admin that blocked me directly I find myself having to do this as soon as possible. I sincerely apologize if I have used an offending tone or language in the writing of this short message, but I'm very frustrated at the moment because of the current situation. I hope you can at least give me an argument as to why posting videos on the wiki's articles is considered wrong and punished with a ban. If you can do it then please leave your reply on UIM's username page and not on the one of my current "dummy" username. If you cannot give me a reasonable argument then I would ask kindly for my ban to be removed or at least I would ask a redirection to somebody that can resolve my issues.

Thank you for your time,

Yours sincerely,


Honest Hearts

It stretched the page and wasn't actually of anything from the DLC, but I linked it in the notes since obviously it's still important. I can add it back if it's removal is a problem. --Flower of Pock-Lips 16:24, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

The sources for the inspirations were the New Canaan design document. And Ausir's exact words were "if an in-game image exists, it should be the preferred one for the infobox", I don't see how a low-quality scan of a playing card is any less appropriate than an image of the faction's two leaders. --Flower of Pock-Lips 16:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


I assume your warning about edit warring is referring the the following two edits, which I dispute (if there are any more edits then please link and I will take a look):

In any event, I am not sure how either of those two edits have constituted 'edit warring'. Your constant and aggressive questioning of my edits with no solid basis, as well as your new threat of a block for some seemingly imagined edit warring is starting to look like a bullying tactic. --Flower of Pock-Lips 20:32, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't explained how I am guilty of edit warring. And the New Canaan edit is sourced in the article, the link to the design document is right there, at the bottom of the page. --Flower of Pock-Lips 12:09, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
As a P.S., I find it odd that Tezzla Cannon didn't get a similar warning, considering. --Flower of Pock-Lips 14:44, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
*sigh* Can you have a word? --Flower of Pock-Lips 19:07, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Editing dispute

I appreciate quick communications and turn-around between admins here. I am aware of the thin edge between suitable content and unacceptable speculation. I do hope where I err in that regard I can be set straight. I am positive my streamline edit of the radscorpion main article includes many such speculations (most that were there prior, I simply re-wrote the article for flow and grammar, I didn't really 'edit' it) that may need to be removed or revised.

The edit dispute in question involves Ghost Avatar altering my edit in a way I find damaging. I retained in the article the speculative concept that radscorpions are descended from imported African Emperor scorpions to pet stores. I wasn't comfortable enough with deleting it; I didn't know if there was good reason for it to be there. I also added the idea(also speculative) that native populations were possibly a source as well, and could migrate post-war due to the desert-like environment everywhere in the wastes. I added this to help balance out the pet-store theory that again I wasn't confident I should remove.

Ghost Avatar then edited this section to state, essentially, that ALL radscorpions in the fallout universe(as this is the main radscorp page paragraph) are descended from 'north American Emperor scorpions.' There were not (and still are not, RW) Emperor scorpions native to North America at the point of divergence, and I would think any population of them that developed since would not be truly 'native.' Ghost states his source for this as dialog from the character Razlo from the first Fallout. I admit this is an original, presumably canon source, however my point was that this NPC stated that he thought radscorpions seemed to originate from 'north am. emperor' scorpions. I don't think this definitively proves a native N.Am. Emperor population, or that all such radscorps are descended from them. I also think asserting all radscorps to be descended as such is erroneous. I subsequently edited the article again so it would not specify a certain source, and notified Ghost of such, saying I though it enough to simply state they were descended from scorpions in general. GhostAvatar then reverting it back to his version, as well as several insulting talk page comments were my cause for putting this to Nitty. I could tell that between us, the issue would only escalate and the reverts had veered into edit warring. I notified Nitty also of an edit GhostAvatar made to Timeline minutes later as another relevant example of how his edits to both articles lacked certain complete logic, were of a black-and-white only opinion, and were unnecessary and damaging to the content, IMHO. I don't know if Nitty has passed this matter to you, but I would add Ghost and I have gotten along just fine until now, and I hope this issue is resolved quickly for everyone. I am sorry to bother you all with an issue so mundane and trivial. The expression 'mountainous molehill' certainly does come to mind. -Pu239AndYou 06:28, February 5, 2011 (UTC) Post Script: I expect many of my future contribs will require guidance on speculation issues. I acknowledge this and expect edits and counsel on that basis.

Just a quick one and I aint even going to get in to this disagreement of Pu239AndYou's with me. I noticed you Capped the North in the ref tag but not in the actual page text, I have switched this around and added a in-game spelling {{icon}} to the quote from the msg file to reflect the capitalization error. ☣Avatar☣ 06:50, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've read your message and mulled it over. Don't think I'm trying to continue the 'dispute,' but let me open a dialogue with you, if I may? Ok, from how I understand it, there is no 'trumping' even necessary, all there IS is the in-game. Not stepping on your terms, just saying, RW isn't even in the race. Now, I wasn't denying that a character from Fallout 1 was canon- just that not every single word that comes out of any NPC's dialog has the power to re-write the rules of time and space. It was never an argument from me that RW should correct the in-game, obviously that's what divergence means, something different and separate. But if any time an NPC says anything and it's considered FACT things start to get pretty ridiculous and messy. Dialogue with Confessor Cromwell in FO3 is a canon source, yes. But is everything he says canon fact? Are we now to consider the Church of Atom's beliefs as reality, and all this great-war business as just a misunderstanding? This is an argument of the principle I'm making here, not an argument to win a dispute. Anyone, and yes, the entire generalization ANYone- who takes a piece of fiction seriously and literally quickly learns many winks and grains of salt are required to 'fill in the cracks.' So are we to decide BAWLS Guarana IS present in the Fallout Universe, but only in Carbon, Texas? Oh, no, that's right, that is non-canon. As in, not REALLY an accepted part of the reality. How is this decided? What I'm getting to is this: anything in the source material that is present or happens, in other words that any player of the game could be considered a witness to, is reality, unless it presents problematic and insurmountable conflictions. What people pop off at the mouth with? Is 'Antler' really a sentient force that actually speaks telepathically to Davison to lead a group of Nightkin? Davison said it was. I'm not trying to be ridiculous, but my main gripe about Razlo's statement about the radscorpions hinges on the word 'seems.' He said they 'seemed' to be n.am. emperors. Additionally, while in his world he is the closest thing to a scholar, someone who apprenticed patching people up in the wastes is hardly an entomologist. Now, if a character such as Lesko from Marigold Metro in F03 were to state that the radscorps ARE 'N. A. Emperor etc..' without questinon, and had some latin name for them to boot, then I wouldn't have anything to say. I don't think the quote from Razlo is as airtight. In short, it just doesn't have solidity. I think you have to account for err, deceit and motive with what NPCs say, otherwise you commit the folly of giving their words the power of god. All of this proffered under the guise of "IMHO" and I am aware the level of work involved in your position here. If you are willing to engage in this, I'd appreciate it. I want to draw this out and hash on it, if nothing else than for my understanding and benefit. I've always thought I possessed a knack for finding the correct middle line on issues, but I seem to be stubbing my head and toe everytime I make a move here at The Vault, on things that coincidentally involve faulty or incomplete logic. It's not my place to show up and try to tell everyone else what's really going on, but I will always reserve the right to disagree, and vocally. Pu239AndYou 22:24, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank your for your patience and explanation. I am going to refer your talk post on my page when I follow up with Ghost. Both speculative sides to the origin of the scorps was a weak spot, granted. I streamlined the page the best I could, but I'm glad to see it could be improved further to be stronger and more fluid. Less is more, so they say. Which brings to question who, exactly, 'they' are. More on that later. Salutations and respect to you. -Pu239AndYou 23:23, February 7, 2011 (UTC)


The entire article is derived from a single source - not just the behind the scenes section. Referencing would mean putting a load of reference tags throughout the article, all linking to a references section consisting of a single item - pointless and messy. It's far better just to link to the source at the bottom of the page. Additionally, few other behind the scenes sections require a reference, I don't see how this is any different, and I don't think it would be too much of a stretch for the reader to work out that the "New Canaan design document" was the source for the New Canaan article on their own. Additionally, I don't see the problem in keeping the behind the scenes section there while we resolve this since you've been provided with a source even if it's not referenced in the article; to do otherwise is some bizarre form of censorship. --Flower of Pock-Lips 17:46, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Little Lamplight and Swampfolk

Well im only 14 so I didnt know it was a "trope" whatever that is so thanks person but you have to admit the swampfolk look a little bit like those hillbilly cannibals from wrong turn. OK thanks for the advice I'll go to the library for the 1st time in my life and find Lord of the Flies xD (Lvdoomien 18:19, February 6, 2011 (UTC))


Hello, this is AFGHAN PSYCHO. I am sending you his message pertaining to you banning me. You said I was banned because of my conduct. I simply stated to a few anons that their comments had no logic behind then and they were being fools. Simply because I and a few other real users were defending me, I was banned fir conduct? I'd like you to reply on my talk page for the reason why you have banned me. The reason you gave had no evidence backing it up and simply because I was defending myself, you say I had bad conduct while in the same blog, people are calling eachother " fucktards" left and right. I dont take kindly to abuse of powers. Reply to my talk page because I am not logged in. AFGHAN PSYCHO

Non-cache problems

Its not at your end, its a issue with the server when updating a image. It only seems to happen on the main file page, but not on thumbnail views or if you view the image at full resolution. What happens is that when a image is updated the server still caches the old image for the view, but does adjust the image size to new image pixel ratio which can skew it. My comment was really in reference to his about the half meg picture etc. which was uploaded after your comment, I just found that comment kinda condescending and a attempt to make you look bad. Hence why I had to correct the statement. ☣Avatar☣ 03:07, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it has

Thanks. I've actually been visiting the site often, but I just haven't really had time to look over any random articles and fix things up. I'll probably lurk around a bit and see what else I can do. --Clean Up 03:17, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


I believe in the one of the first articles that came out about the creature, Sawyer was saying "cazadores" I believe. I would need to look back and see if I can find that article. TrailerParkApe MkII 19:45, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

I went back to the cazador page, and I looked at the earliest page. To my luck, there was not a reference page, but when the page was first created the spelling was cazadores. Now, I doubt that's good enough a reason for it to be spelled that way, but I just shot Sawyer a question on his Formspring account, and hopefully he doesn't bypass the question of the proper plural spelling. TrailerParkApe MkII 20:00, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
  • I've done a Spanish course class, the plural of the spanish word cazador (hunter) is cazadores, so with -es. That's how they use plural in spanish-speaking countries. Jspoelstra 00:34, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

A job well done

Unforgivable. You just happened to hover over the dozens of people that were insulting each other and me? You just by chance randomly decided to simply say "let see who will I randomly ban". You just happened to look over the dozens people who were dropping "f" bombs and other such words; many of them real users. So basically to your logic, it is okay when someone calls you an ass, moron, fucker, bitch,etc, but when you tell them that they are being illogical, you are insulting someone? Unforgivable. You simply ignore everyone else and don't do your job and look the other way when Tagziel deletes peoples' comments and makes multiple offenses, yet when I simply defend myself, I get banned.Unforgivable. A toast to the best bureaucrat of all wikis.--{{SUBST:User:AFGHAN PSYCHO/Sig}} 22:43, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

To whom this mat concern you were the one doing something wrong by retaliating so leave this man alone when he is doing a good job keeping this wiki legitimate.- TheFalloutGuru

Quick Question

I recently started a blog on another site- nothing Fallout related, just a few of my more painful attempts at humor. Would it be alright if I posted a link on my userpage? Hal10k (Leonard Bernstein!) 02:59, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

10,000 edits

4 to go for a milestone, Goth! Cheers. Jspoelstra 22:40, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Stimpak (Fallout 3, New Vegas)

I take it that Assault rifle (Fallout) etc. will be moved to Assault rifle (Fallout, Fallout 2), yes? Nitty Tok. 00:16, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

...I actually meant that as a question, not a request...
Should the word Fallout be included in front of the New Vegas in Stimpak (Fallout 3, New Vegas)? Nitty Tok. 03:40, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

cut content

--Cut content---

See my page, I am launching a cut content project because I currently found out that the cut content of Fallout 3 like the Enclave shocktrooper armor can be added in Fallout New Vegas. --GauzzRifle 09:20, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bug pages

Hope you don't mind that I keep referring people to you for bug-related things :) I just don't want to meddle in things I haven't really been involved with for quite a while (thanks for taking that on by the way). -- Porter21 (talk) 19:56, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just a question on some edits

Hello there! I am aware of the revert done on my entry for Callville Bay and mostly just added it in there because I saw a similar entry in Mesquite Mountains Camp Site warning the readers of saving and reloading the game forcing Radscorpions to spawn. Now are these not meant to be there? I looked at the FO3 Locations page (and assuming we are applying the guidelines for that page for NV locations), and it seems what's only allowed are specific bugs to that area, but generally speaking, both bugs can occur anywhere, as it has happened to me in various locales. I just like to know the reason why an edit was reverted other than for blatant vandalism for consistency's sake across all articles. --Distracted Ghost 22:11, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 Exploits

Hello... I recently made a rather huge set of changes to the Fallout 3 Exploits page. Mainly it was a huge jumble of random stories and processes; exploit walkthroughs. There was a random assortment of stories, all under various level one headlines, level 2 headlines, and a few under level three headlines. Some stories were directly under a level one headline formatted title; while there were some others under a mild form of organization, a group of stories under a main title in the "level one headline" format, with each related article below the main title - each individual story being under its own, smaller title in level two or three headline format.

I mainly came up with a select number of Main categories and put them in Level One Headline format, then for any subcategories I made a level two format headline and designated that; at this point each specific exploit and story got it's own title and was copied to the place where it belonged. I retitled a few to be more related to the article and a little more clear as to the point of the article/exploit.

I see a problem with a few exploits from Add-Ons being in there. If they were there, I didn't remove them but ordered them with the others. I added one, however it's three lines and all it says is the name of the exploit, what add-on is necessary, and a link to that add-on's exploit page. I put it in there (the Chinese Stealth Armor article under Armor & Clothing) because it is a section I'm certain has something that can or would do in it; however nothing applicable was in it yet except lower in the page, the CSA exploit was mentioned, so I referenced it.

I also made a new page, Fallout 3 Exploits. It's just a redirect page I made because it makes sense; I think that if you go and type it and get a capital off it shouldn't tell you the page doesn't exist, especially if what you were looking for does and the site's just freaking out over a capital letter. (Personal opinion is that the official pages should be all capital titles and that the redirect pages should be the non-capitals. Mainly b/c the name in the URL is a page title, normally titles are capitalized.

Thanks for reading what has, once again, turned into a diatribe. I hope I didn't commit some atrocity with the rather large edit. Blaze55555 02:45, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

YAYTHANKS!!! made meh feel good, however if I may say so, I think some need a mild walkthrough-esque elaboration. I personally would have never in a million years figured out the Gary 23 Exploit. I may never figure out the Sydney's Ultra SMG Glitch and it is neither on her page, the weapon's page, nor in their note's section, those pages don't have an exploit section (though they do have a bugs section) and all they do is say "someone's found a way to do it" though they don't tell how to do it nor link to anything on how to do it, not even the exploit page in question, which was the first place I finally found it.
Yes, I think it can be shortened, I did a bit of touching up with the grammar and phrasing. Hopefully the parts I touched up are more clear and shorter.
Last, I forgot to mention in the first message, I added the traveling exploit about carrying a body. It's saved me on more than one occasion. Yeah, that was me, sorry, I can't write anything short; at least, never the first few times around. I tend to also ramble and repeat myself in multiple synonymic ways, and include lots of (perhaps) useless info. I think those bullet points are necessary points though.
Mainly, I am apprehensive to remove info because what I said in the first paragraph, I don't know how much readers can or cannot figure out just by saying what features, characters or mechanics of the game are involved, and I don't know how specific the descriptions have to be for someone to get what they mean, so consider that. I would gladly go through one article a day, though, and try to improve the grammar, and perhaps use synonym-replacement to try to shorten them as much as possible. Blaze55555 04:07, February 16, 2011 (UTC)


The story behind that user is because of Xbox Live. He decided to add me the other day. We talked, and I personally don't like adding people I don't know, and when we were talking, he just seemed snarky. So, I blocked communications with him because I just didn't want to deal with it. Therefore, in return to my actions, he insulted me. TrailerParkApe MkII 00:49, February 17, 2011 (UTC)


That paragraph was removed because there is a lengthy references section, and because the listed sources no longer adequately describe where the bulk of the article's information came from. To list all of the sources would obviously be impractical, that's why the references section exists. --Flower of Pock-Lips 17:31, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 NPC Overhaul Project

Question: can anyone join this project or is it just a select few? If it's the former, I would be glad to join this project. Kastera1000 17:59, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

  • Hasn't gotten any attention? Aren't you forgetting someone ;( I've done quite a bit of work on the NPC images, haven't I? Greets, Jspoelstra 04:04, February 20, 2011 (UTC) Of course, I understand.
  • Yes.., a good question. I needed just a little more confidence but think I'm now ready for it. So it won't be too long anymore now before I apply I think.
In that case, I shall add my name to the participant roster and start working. Kastera1000 17:17, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


Because people already seem to think I am, including some of the admin =P But honestly I don't know why I would want to be a admin, well apart from clearing all the nominated for deletion images and blocking some of the annoying anons. ☣Avatar☣ 04:21, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thats kinda my thinking at the moment, seems to me not being a admin means I can actually do more for the Wiki. Although I am tempted to see about a temp statues, just so I can clear through the images nominated for deletion ☣Avatar☣ 04:30, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
P.S. why don't you just lock your user page like Porter has done to his?


I'll do that, I hadn't realised he had added them since I was editing in notepad and copy+pasting over when I was done. --Flower of Pock-Lips 15:13, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fixing yer userpage

No problem. I'm always happy to fix vandalism.

As for getting abused, well, that's what you get for removing someone else's "hard work" :) --Anon talk 18:54, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


How should I go about confronting vandals? There's nothing I hate more on this site than vandals, but I don't want to do anything could land me in trouble as well (for example, verbal abuse). What should I say to vandals? Kastera 20:34, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

In that case, I have a vandal to report; one Jjp385 vandalized the page Carton of cigarettes, placing "bbbbbbbbbb" (continuing on, of course) at approximately 13:23 Feb. 12 under the Fallout: New Vegas section. Kastera 22:34, February 21, 2011 (UTC)


The Bishop Child. The Fallout 2 ending that produces the Bishop Child requires the PC to impregnate either Bishop woman, according to the Fallout 2 endings page. This is obviously impossible for a female PC, so the Chosen One must be male. --Flower of Pock-Lips 01:46, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

If that's the case, I will do so in the morning after I've had some sleep. One thing - if the Bishop child's ending only appears if the PC has slept with one of the Bishop women (and takes precedence over the other endings), surely that confirms that the Bishop child is the son of the Chosen One? And re: this edit: Bruce Isaac talks about a "Mr. Bishop" who is the head of the Bishop family and is said to know the wastes like the back of his hand. Given the description of the Bishop child in the Fallout 2 ending, it seems that this is a clear reference to that ending of FO2. --Flower of Pock-Lips 02:06, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Flower of Pock-Lips here, the reference in Fallout: New Vegas clearly indicates that the Bishop Child ending for FO2 is canon. Ausir(talk) 02:08, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to know why you deleted my page. i was trying to see if anyone knew how to contact todd howard. I am not upset, i'm just wondering why you did this.

Re: Quotes

Thanks for that info. I'm sorry; I haven't been feeling my regular self for the past 2 days and thought the situation was OK, and I totally overlooked the Youtube link. My bad. Kastera 22:42, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Mormon edit

I don't buy that logic. If there was no call to replicate Wikipedia, why do we have an article for Fallout when we could just link to Wikipedia's? That, and a whole host of other articles are mostly or entirely sporked from Wikipedia anyway. Also, did you even read the diff when you reverted? There was a load of Fallout information that you removed with that when it would have been easier for everyone had you simply removed the offending paragraphs, as I have done now. --Flower of Pock-Lips 13:32, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Unlike the Mormon article, the articles which use content from Wikipedia are not in-universe articles. We do use Wikipedia content for real-life articles (such as the main game pages or developer articles), but for in-universe articles only info derived from the game or related source materials is relevant. -- Porter21 (talk) 14:43, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
'Nitpicking'? You mean reading? You say that you do not have the time to look through my edits and make the necessary changes (in which case, why are you reverting edits that you do not have the time to read?), but I would wager that you have spent far more energy defending your revert than would have been expended simply removing the paragraphs you took issue with. Would this really have been that difficult? And as for discussing changes before making them, I have tried this. You will note the overwhelming positive response after I produced a draft page for Harold, and the only marginally better response on the timeline talk page. There is a reason why other wikis have editing guidelines on being bold.
Porter: Nikola Tesla is listed as using the Wikipedia copyright template. And I wouldn't expect many in-universe articles to use content from Wikipedia, I believe that the LDS Church is the only pre-war organisation that survived the war relatively unchanged, and compared to, say, the federal government, it's comparatively obscure enough (from an outside-US perspective, at least), that additional content on pre-war history may be necessary for clarity. In any case, I think the current solution is a solution both parties can be happy with, so I see no need to take the issue further. --Flower of Pock-Lips 23:15, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
Tesla is an intentional exception from the rule due to his notability for the universe (same as Abraham Lincoln); that does not invalidate the rule. A brief summary of pre-War history with a link to the Wikipedia article is fine, but too much real-life detail simply detracts from the in-universe info. -- Porter21 (talk) 23:29, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
Well, thanks for the feedback, and apologies for being a bit tetchy as of late. Editing wikis can be a little frustrating at times, which I suppose you know yourself! --Flower of Pock-Lips 02:31, March 2, 2011 (UTC)


Right, gotcha. I'll remember that for later. Best regards, Kastera 00:26, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Argyle (Fallout 3)

Can you please move Argyle (Fallout 3) back to Argyle, the person who moved it is getting confused with Argyll from FNV for there reason to move the page. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 16:00, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

New Vegas Addons

Having some trouble with New Vegas Add-Ons. Flower of Pock-Lips keeps adding to Lonesome Road and Old World Blues speculative information at best, and is persistent with ensuring this information stays. Was hoping for your word on this, as I'm unsure if it is appropriate to keep such information there (such as Father Elijah's quote in Old World Blues section, and Christine's Quote about Ulysses in Lonesome Road section), as they don't concretely confirm that either DLC will feature either location or person, but they keep getting added by FOPL. --Machienzo 13:23, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

I would just like to point out that neither section claims that those locations will appear in the DLC's. The Lonesome Road section, for example, first discusses where the phrase "Lonesome Road" appears in-game, and then goes on to discuss the content of other graffiti in the same location. While all of these things are obviously linked, it would be speculative to say so without a source, and so the section is carefully worded as to let the reader decide whether it is relevant for themself. In any event, the information was obviously considered relevant enough to be added to the DLC's respective pages by Ausir ([1] [2]). --Flower of Pock-Lips 20:36, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

NPC infobox

Do you know what infobox is proper to use for these NPC's. The one on Aaron Kimball looks nice but is missing the alignment. The base template at Template:Infobox character does not include tag skills or derived stats of health and level. I am going to leave this on porter's and ausir's pages as well. Let me know what you think. Thanks in advance!--Kingclyde 04:23, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


Can you do me a favour and lock Ratslayer to anons. I am fed up of them reverting my edit removing strategy and opinion from the page. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 21:21, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Categorizing Strip characters

Hi Goth,

A question: Right now I'm busy with categorizing Gomorrah characters to their location (so Gomorrah characters), but they are also listed in the category Omertas characters. I've been thinking, it may be a bit double listed now, since it's almost the same.

Should I revert it to just the Omertas category?

Another thing, Gomorrah is not split yet in various sections (4). Is that needed? Some of the other casinos on The Strip are. Greets, Jspoelstra 01:42, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

  • And do the Strip casinos need to be split into sections? Some already are (partially).

I'll get back to you on that one, it's late here... Goodnight for now.


Apparently you blocked my IP Address for insulting other editors? If you can provide proof of such a thing I would appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

I apologise profusely, I was under the illusion that a hyperlink was acceptable, again, my sincere apologies.

video policy query

Hey, i wasn't sure and didn't want to push my luck so i thoucht I'd check: Is it permissible to place links to youtube videos on ones userpage?


Hi Goth, Fryingpan57 changed Benny's name to Benny Gecko and I asked him where he got his info. Now I've found a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Perry where it does say Benny Gecko. It's a wikipedia site, usually trustworthy I thought. Can you judge it for validity? Jspoelstra 04:01, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

  • Ok, you're already on it

I found another wikipedia-site where it says that Benny's last name is Gecko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(series). The edit has been made on the 10th of August 2010, by Goldenboy. If your first post doesn't work out, you could try this one. Greets, Jspoelstra 20:56, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

NPC Project

It's no trouble, really. I've rediscovered the joys of playing Fallout 3 after playing so much Fallout: New Vegas. So much nostalgia... Anyway, I'll be replaying all of the add-ons soon, so I felt the need to take a look at the character pages just for old times sake. Along the way, I'd check them off on the project page. Best regards, Kastera talk 04:44, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


Do vandals get banned after one act? What I'm asking is: when should I report vandals? Is it after one, or is it a "three strikes, you're out" sort of deal? Best regards, Kastera talk 00:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

In that case I've got to separate cases for you. This vandal you have already blocked, making this basically useless to tell you. This vandal... is also banned. So I guess I didn't help ban anyone, but I did learn a valuable lesson about banning protocol at The Vault. Best regards, Kastera talk 18:44, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Jack and Diane

I have a nice one for you. Today I reverted a removed Jack and Diane song reference on the Jack (Great Khans) and Diane page. Then a few hours later my revert got removed again by User:Mictlantecuhtli. I like the reference, brings back some good old childhood memories. It's quite possible the game developers had the song in mind when creating the two. What do you think of it? Jspoelstra 00:01, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

  • Just watched the clip on youtube. Good song ain't it? Well, the Jack and Diane in the clip have dark and blond hair, same as in the game. Does that count for anything =)?

Thank you

Thank you, that means a lot. I guess I have more support than I thought. TrailerParkApe TPA 19:10, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

My East Coast Map

Hey there,

I recently made a new map (File:EasternFalloutMap.png) of the East Coast and replaced the older map in the Fallout World article and the East Coast article with it. While the one in the Fallout World article still remains, Tagaziel reverted my edit back to the older outdated map in the East Coast article, because he believes "that replacing it with a solid colour version is not appropriate," and would rather it be replaced with a similar looking map instead (look on my discussion page to see for yourself). Now, I have no problem with this, and wouldn't mind making a physical map, but the fact of the matter is that I simply don't have the time, and it's a miracle I found the time to make the map I did make. So what I'm asking is, do you feel the same as Tagaziel, or do you feel that my current map is an approproate replacement? And if so, would you be able to revert Tagaziel's change to show that you, an admin, support it? XXAntibodyXx 15:49, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Something menial

Sorry to bother you with something rather menial and possibly quite simple, but how do you archive your talk page. I just want to make sure my talk doesn't get to full too fast in the near future. Best regards, Kastera (talk) 22:08, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Answered. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 22:22, March 22, 2011 (UTC)


Thank you for the compliment. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 15:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

FO3 NPC Overhaul

Does the 'actor' part of an infobox have to be filled in for the infobox to be deemed 'complete'? Best regards, Kastera (talk) 17:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals... again

I would report this to some other admin, but no one else is around, so here we are. This one vandalized Butcher Pete (Part 1)... blatantly. Best regards, Kastera (talk) 21:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

More active

Yes, becoming an admin (and also invested time and edit-count) has lifted my self-confidence more and more. For example, I would't have thought to be deleting blog-comments, since that's Tagaziel's terrain, so to speak. But after some deletions I know I can make good judgement there too. And now the image uploading has been done for the most important part, I can so some other things. I'm still motivated and hope to keep it that way. Probably best to keep the work variated, then it'll work out I think. I've noticed you're not online that much lately, that's a pity but understandable. You must be busy with work, other things and have to take priority. Thanks for the thumbs up, these things are good to hear from time to time (Still looking for an opportunity to give a present myself to someone). Hope you can find some time for The Vault again soon! JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 13:07, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Rollback privileges

So I've been thinking; in the past few weeks, I've been making my own edits and reverting bad ones.Jspoel thought it would be a good idea for me to ask and even gave me his "blessing", if you will. What do ya say? Best regards, Kastera (talk) 16:52, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Why the change?

If you dont mind me asking why did you delete most of the Legendary Cazador page? Just added more to help with combating it you know? -EDP ( 17:43, April 3, 2011 (UTC))

Vandals - Sterling

Gothemasticator, another vandals edited Corporal Sterling's page. Here's the recorded edit. --GauzzRifle 08:31, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

  • After killing Cook-Cook, you will have a dialogue option about some suspicious activity 'around here'. He will tell you about spying some 'suspicious lights in an empty control tower' which become 'more consistent around 1 a.m.' and 'maybe worth a look'. There is no 'Control Tower' around Camp Forlorn Hope, except the Radio Tower in the north (W to Ranger Station Delta) where at 1 a.m. nothing happens.

I shall fix the page ASAP. Thank you for reading.


i'm new to this whole editing so i didn't know that so thanks for telling me i'll be sure to not do it again.

Related quests in locations articles

The is a dispute between a few of us editors and we need a resolution. The Vault:Article layout guideline/Location article states that it is not required. It does say if there are quests to list them but it is redundant as the quests are also listed in the infobox. Should I bring up this proposed policy change in the forum or on the policy talk page. You know how I hate redundancy. Thanks!--Kingclyde 18:04, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Moira brown vandal

hope you've got your mighty banhammer in handy, 'cause this user vandalized the Moira Brown page. Greets, gears of duty

Armour images

Which one? the one with no skin, the one with no texture for the skin or the one with the default texture for the skin. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 19:35, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Integrated Vault Security

User blog:Gauzz_Rifle/Integrated_Vault_Security did you mean to only close comments on it for a day? User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 19:25, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

lol kk ...... err, exactly how do you disable comments on blogs out of interest? User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 22:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


Thought I should let you know that Iamarapist77 is probably either on the same kick that Junglebunny666 from early this morning was on or possibly the same person. They vandalized the articles 77 did along with the user pages of those who tried to fix the mess around 5 am this morning. Great Mara 20:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Username block

I've used this name on the net for years, sorry it offends you. I will not change it. Please consider that this game actually uses the word fuck in it several times so I don't understand how anyone playing fallout would be offended by my username.

  • I have answered this for you. Greets, JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 00:13, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Church of Latter Day Saints revert

Is their a particular reason you removed J.E. Sawyer's quote regarding the reasoning behind the inclusion of the Church in the Fallout universe? It's not the first time this wiki has incorporated a comment from a developer regarding particular lore/design choices - see Arcade Gannon and Caesar's Legion. Dreadcthulhu 22:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see where you're coming from. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Van Buren the first example of the inclusion of the church? And Sawyer was the lead developer on that (and I think he wrote all the design documents relating to them as well). A development section like the one on the Legion page would be alot better like you said, but the vast majority of the information on the Mormon/Utah related materials does come from Sawyer. Dreadcthulhu 23:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the Mormon parts of Van Buren (the whole of New Canaan, specifically) were designed by Sawyer. Ausir(talk) 01:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Can the comment be re-added in some context, then? I still think its quite illuminating on the development side of things. Perhaps it would sit better on the Honest Hearts DLC page? Dreadcthulhu 15:36, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Any opinion? Dreadcthulhu 13:24, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

One Month Blockage


Could you mind telling me why you blocked my IP address from March 15 to April 15 for supposedly posting "Gibberesh?"


We are legion

The reason I removed it, is because it isn't a direct quote from the Bible. Yes, "We are Legion" does owe its origins from the Bible where it does state "My name is Legion". But the "We are Legion" has many references in pop culture, including the Doctor Who episode "The Impossible Planet", which is something the devs are also familiarity with and have referenced in FNV. Therefore, I don't think the cultural reference is so obvious. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 19:36, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

REPCONN Jumpsuit image

I am dearly sorry for the horrible image I added to the REPCONN jumpsuit, because the image I used is from the G.E.C.K. --Gauzzy 03:53, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout: New Vegas

I am sorry I could not make tables for the pages Tom Dooley and the text-less cut elements from NV, but I created it. I could ask a little help :D --Gauzzy 08:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

  • Taken care of, he posted this also to some admins, including me. JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png


my avatar is what it is and no one minds it im sure if it was bohering some people they would say but so far your the only one so im not changing it ?? Jeremiah&evan 23:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)


Don't these pose more risk of damaging the wiki than helping it by encouraging people more towards quantity than quality in their contributions? I found mysylph falling prey to the idea of accumulating badges for all of 3 minutes, however I suspect others may be more 'inspired'. Further, the fact that this is not retroactive seems to me to undervalue those who put in the vast majority contributions: Any and all submitted prior to the implementation of badges. P.S. Is it the gargantuan size of your talk page that made editing this in so slow or something else? P.P.S. I probably just earned a badge for this. Is there an irony badge? :/ XxSylphxx 07:59, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Link redirects

Hmm, alright I didn't see it in the policies, apologies. Just with the entire decimal adding it seemed a little strange if not suspicious. --User:Cartman!User talk:Cartman! 05:18, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I had no way of knowing, and jspoelstra also made a similar comment before mine too, I wasn't even close to picking a fight I'm just trying to care for the wiki :/ I didn't mean to offend anyone but it seems I have. --User:Cartman!User talk:Cartman! 05:29, April 22, 2011 (UTC)


Dear Gothemasticator, I have noticed that most people have not read the Wiki Policy and also have alot of feed back to give. I have found a solution for this. An admin (I could be the one if made an Admin), should put up a Public Service Announcement that discusses feedback on the problems users are having on the Wiki and also remind people what the Wiki Policies are. Another problem I have seen is the constant Horrible comments put on the news articles. I suggest it become one of the admins, (Again I could be the one if I am made an Admin), duties to delete sexist, racist, hurtful and all around hateful comments. My first solution would definitely keep the number of messages and annoyances you get on a day to day buisness. These Public Service Announcements could either be weekly or evey few days. The second suggestion I gave would be a great idea because of the hatred that comments are causing between members and anons, also amongst the members themselves. I recently saw even an Anon insulting Ausir on his own site. The quarrels are actually pushing people away from the Wiki because people feel that it is not a safe enviroment. Thank you for your time. --PipGirl 01:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


Nothing in-game that I can see unless it is hidden very deep, I have deleted as such and left a message as it might be something they picked up on the Beth forum for the upcoming DLC. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 19:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

van buren images

sorry about the deletions then, couldnt find anything on them so thourght they had just been addeed. apolagies user:ziplobthud pop the zip 03:40, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sniper rifles

I was wondering if we could make a page comparing the various sniper rifles in fallout: New Vegas

Hello Sir, I just thought I would let you know that there is a release date for Honest Hearts now and some outlines of all the DLCs. Hope this has been helpful. http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/05/03/details-on-honest-hearts-old-world-blues-and-lonesome-road/ -Sheogorath27

Chosen One

Just wondering, why was this edit made? To me, it seems like the wrecked highwayman is a clear and deliberate (on the part of the developers) allusion to the Chosen One's post-Fallout 2 activities. --Flower of Pock-Lips 20:28, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Love and Hate

Would you so mind going here and explaining to TheMindRobber why we can't add the "Do the Right Thing" reference to the Fallout: New Vegas cultural reference page? I've tried explaining that LOVE and HATE have a lot of cultural references to them, but I've has no success. Thanks in advance, Kastera (talk) 21:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

  • Thanks

Please stop editing my posts

the location Hell's Motel is a reference to the song Hell's Motel by MD.45. I've even got evidence, there are many references to the band Megadeth. Since MD.45 was started by Megadeth's front man so it isn't ridiculous to assume that the games developers have listened to MD.45. Also the song is about a drug addicted old man who used to be a doctor and inside Hell's Motel (In fallout) there is a dead Ghoul named Dr. Rotson and there is drug making equipment all over the house. Finally Hell's and Motel don't rhyme.--Gwuag 00:25, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Jet Edit - Behind The Scenes


I replaced the "Behind The Scenes" portion of this page after feeling it was removed without explaination. Upon looking into the Talk page, however, I did notice that this has been discussed quite a bit in the past, so I thought maybe I should explain myself...

I am not declaring that Jet is in fact any particular drug, but rather suggesting that its creation from brahmin dung fumes certainly appears to be a nod to the process of creating Jenkem (be that in and of itself a hoax or not).

If I have missed your point, please enlighten me.

  • I do understand that it is not one drug in particular; the point I was making was that the fact it is created from brahmin dung fumes parallels Jenkem. I would be interested in hearing another admin's perspective on the subject as well, if you do not mind my suggestion. (edited: meant to request another admin's perspective, begging your pardon).
  • Cultural references, nods, etc. I appreciate that, which is why I feel it is appropriate. I'm not adding it in again with respect to the fact that you have taken it down for the second time, but I would like to have another admin's take on this. I feel that there have been many "Behind the scenes" factoids and such that seem to share the same sort of connection that I am making with this point, so I'm having trouble seeing where the line is drawn... J Gerrity 16:36, May 6, 2011 (UTC)


Please do not delete WWII next time, thank you.

It happened, and if you want to whine about it not appearing in the game, then you should know that Fallout: Tactics is canon, and it has WWII weapons, and amongst other weapons, so please do not delete pages again. Bar27262 09:31, May 7, 2011 (UTC)


If you think something is wrong, why DON'T you fix it? isn't that hard. Bar27262 14:44, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Userpage blank

Should this users' page be blanked? I'm pretty sure its against policy. I would do it, but I don't want to get in an unneeded fight, and people listen to bureaucrats more often than other users. Thanks, Kastera (talk) 19:47, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

No! It sounds like a good song! Trolly Polly 19:50, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Still, "nigga" is posted on his page 12 times. That isn't the kind of vocabulary we want to promote on this site.

So we'll just censor it out with the line function or whatever else there is. Trolly Polly Olly 06:56, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone can see through a strike-through. Censoring would just be blanking the page. How 'bout that? Kastera (talk) 20:49, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Pointless edits

So, rather than simply enforce the problem of people whoring useless 1-3 word edits/rewording that doesn't make sense and putting a stop to it, you tell off people who complain about it? When it was brought up by 3 other users including Ausir a few days ago? Stay classy! Death and Taxes

Hands of God

Anon vandal detected creating Hands of God page with the content, FUCK NIGGERS. I placed a delete template. --Gauzzy 01:02, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Could also be a reference to Ladybug Ladybug

I made the change to that article for a reason. I am a historian specializing in Atomic Culture during the Cold War. While I recognize that yes this could be a reference to the latest Indiana Jones Movie (I'm a fan btw) I was also trying to show people that it could be an even older reference to the 1963 film, Ladybug Ladybug. Why do you insist on not letting me keep the change? It's small and I'm not trying to take away from Indy's glory, I am only adding to the user's historical understanding.

How is the reference to Indy certain? Was it approved by the canon and I did not see it? Also, if you're citing the suave gambler's hat, remember that if the character is female, the hat does not look like the hat Indy always wears.

Vandals Spotlight

Removed, and can you rate my news page? --Gauzzy 12:34, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re: NPC project

OK, that sounds fine to me. It shouldn't be too hard from now on; we just need to find some people to make peer reviews. I hereby grant you my permission to replace your name with mine. Thanks for everything, Kastera (talk) 16:32, May 20, 2011 (UTC)


http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/ I reckon he doesn't like the .32 pistol that much. Great Mara 01:28, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blocked.--Kingclyde 01:33, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Check The Vault:Fallout: New Vegas Weapons Background Project out

And read what I wrote on the talk page. I think this project goes against policy and is unneeded as we have several open projects going already.--Kingclyde 02:58, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


The wrestler one is already added under "professional wrestling" --DragonJTSLeave me a message 00:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nature Category in Creatures Page

Hello Gothemasticor. Im typing this message to ask you for permission to do something. That something is to add somethng to each creature page. I want to add a "Nature" (can be changed to your liking) category. This category will list all of the things the creature does (actions like: if it smells, growls before attacking, etc.). For instance: A Feral ghoul (Fallout 3) will make a hissing sound before engaging in hand-to-hand combat. Thank you for your time. FalloutFreak9090 19:19, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

My message to Ausir

The exact violation of policy was by Tagaziel, and of VA:UC, specifically "interacting with other editors". Tagaziel was aggressive from the outset of the conversation, quickly resorting to name-calling (infinitely stupid, very dense, an idiot, saying I should be ashamed of myself) and general rudeness. I believe Itachou agrees with me ("Finally, can you avoid insulting people when they do not agree with you?") [3].
Tagaziel's conduct is most unbecoming for an administrator, someone who is supposed to be a paragon of user conduct. I believe that his disregard for wiki policy undermines his own ability to enforce that policy, and I believe that he would have been blocked from editing were he a normal user for such behaviour, but paradoxically his admin status has protected him from reprisal. --Lugiatm (talk · contribs) 22:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

FO3 NPC project

Hello Gothe,

I would just like you to know that I have finished the majority of sections on the overhaul project, but there is one thing I can't do and that's peer reviews. I'd like to ask you to do some peer reviews on unfinished NPCs so we can finally end this project. We didn't finish it before Fallout: New Vegas came, but at least we can still finish it, right? Best regards, Kastera (talk) 22:41, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Page clean and joining some projects

Gothemasticator, I removed the vandal quotes you requested and I removed the terms "ass" and the like. Now, can you delete all my blogs? By the way, I am currently joining some projects, for a quick finish of the projects' wanted articles. --M72 GauzzUser talk:Gauzz Rifle 02:05, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages

Hope your banhammer still works because this guy placed a bullet in the Inertia suppression field with "Wouldn't a deathclaw gauntlet work really well?" --M72 GauzzUser talk:Gauzz Rifle 04:47, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement boosting

What is a Wikia achievement boosting? --M72 GauzzUser talk:Gauzz Rifle 10:23, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Answered. Kastera (talk) 20:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Jack and Diane .... again

Starving Cannibal keeps adding in the bit about the John Mellencamp song, though the only similarities between it and the game are first name and hair color. Location, context, etc is entirely wrong for it to be a reference. Mictlantecuhtli 20:05, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me


I know this is a very old topic, but I just noticed it. I don't know who MikaelGrizzly is, so why was it edited?

I need your opinion

There is a new category or rather a bunch of new categories. Confirmed Bachelor 777 made a bunch of categories that are duplicates and now we need to remove them. But before I do I want input from others. What follows is an example, For example:Hector Lopez does not need a Category:Fallout: New Vegas mentioned-only NCR characters when he already has a Category:Fallout: New Vegas mentioned-only characters. It's a duplicate. Let me know what you think.--Kingclyde 02:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Here is a better example

New California Republic Army characters and Fallout: New Vegas NCR characters are both on 10 of Spades page. They are duplicates in my opinion. The later category is the new one.--Kingclyde 02:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)


You may want to take a look at http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PipGirl101 considering all the personal attacks and just general nuisance and drama mongering she causes around here a little bit of action may need to be considered. Funny, since she spends most of her time on the Vault complaining about abusive comments towards herself.

FO3 NPC overhaul project finished

Project award - Fallout 3 NPC overhaul.png
Vault Project Medal
You have been awarded the Vault Project Medal for your efforts within the Fallout 3 NPC overhaul project.
Thank you for carrying the project a long way! -- Porter21 (talk) 00:22, May 31, 2011 (UTC)


Thankyou! I'll do my best with the privileges. Sorry for what i did back in March btw. Trolly Polly Olly 21:44, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout faction overhaul project debate

If you have the time, please see the debate I've started on the forum: Fallout faction overhaul project debate, Thanks! Itachou [~talk~] 18:02, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Goth! Though someone should really clean up the Explosive page, the redundancy of the large article section lured me into getting rid of it, again sorry about that.

Nitpicker of the Wastes

Nitty just send me a message, about me but I removed it because it contained personal attacks. --M72 GauzzUser talk:Gauzz Rifle 06:29, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Moira Brown Age

I only moved the age to the top to stop an anon from continously posting it over and over in the notes section and using the page to insult users who removed the content, he / she may try to add the age again in the notes later on.

True Police Stories

Thanks for the speedy resolve on this. Marineris 18:10, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Period, comma

It seems that I cannot find an online source for this, but I was taught by several professors and textbooks that the period is dropped from the end of an acronym if a comma present immediately after. However, I have also not seen anything supporting your correction. Janitor Jan 23:49, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

About the "burden of proof".. That's exactly why I didn't go ahead and change it back. You sound none the wiser by beating a dead horse. But really, you should look over almost all of your pages regarding Fallouts 3 and New Vegas. Next to none of them are in proper Wiki format, or contain grammatical and structural errors. I can back that up with common knowledge. As an example, countless pages contain "you", as if speaking directly to the reader. Wikis are supposed to follow formal writing guidelines. In formal writing, you never refer to anyone as "you" or speak in first-person. The previously-affiliated gaming Wiki, now known as Wowpedia, has perfect format on nearly every page. It's just that this Wiki has a lot of lazy editors. So forgive me for swallowing my pride, attempting to look up supportive information, and keeping myself from reverting your fix, which are three things that too many contributors rarely do. Well, good luck. I tried with this site before and was beaten down by the multitude of kids adding information that was either wrong or looked like it was written for sending to someone on AIM.Janitor Jan 18:59, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


Noted. BILLYOCEAN 05:13, June 6, 2011 (UTC)