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thumb alternative

I'm sure you can refine this, but i made this for the witcher wiki. — Game widow 21:29, October 21, 2010 (UTC)


Aww... your the Vault's best programmer, of course your always motivated :). Also, I have a recommendation: We should make a base ID needed template. Although that might not be the highest priority to you at the moment, I'm just putting the idea out there. Nukey (talk) 01:20, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Petition for Oasis wide version

Please see the petition I've started. Thanks.--Gothemasticator 20:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


thanks for deleting the forum thing i posted gameplay help for fallout new vegas, w/e it was, i couldn't figure out how to remove it and didn't know what to do about it other than wipe it of the words and due to its uselessness, also i am curious i am using the old format still and i can't see that there is a forum for help for new vegas, could this be because im on old format, or just my comp screwing with me? Toolazytomakeaaccount 08:00, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

oh, nvm that explains it, k just noticed your post on the forum lol Toolazytomakeaaccount 08:01, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia.css editing

I found an issue with that code of yours regarding the wikiarail/sidebar. You see it blocks the talk page button (possible option, move it to the header, next to the navbar?). But I've got a question regarding the talk page button, do you know how to turn it into a proper button, just a white background and lightgray (D9D9D9) border? I've turned the edit button on the mainspace into something like that so it fits really nice next to the search bar, the same style, etc. Although I still need to figure out how to do it for every other darn namespace. p.s. If possible I'd like to get rid of the little speech bubble with the editcount and find a better solution to find out if the talk page has any edits. --Light Daxter - Talk 13:36, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Managed to add a border myself, but it's still not a button. I also need to figure out how to redo all the other edit buttons out there, what a job... --Light Daxter - Talk 17:45, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Could you take a look at it? Otherwise I might have to use trial and error by removing various bits and checking when it does happen or not. p.s. the rounded corners testing in your sandbox looks really nice. --Light Daxter - Talk 21:36, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Admin Deadlykris has violated admin and content policy

Admin User:Deadlykris has violated this wiki's stated policy on page deletion. He deleted a page with substantive 2+ hours work behind it that did not in any obvious way violate a reasonable interpretation of the wiki's content policy. He could easily have moved the content into a user-specific area. I cannot recover all this original work because I have no access to the page history prior to the deletion. I would have been happy to move this information into a "more appropriate area" if I'd simply been contacted and worked with rather than having my work trashed without regard or real explanation. WTH you guys understand wikis are collaborative community efforts, right? What kind of admin trashes substantive content out of hand like that?

I'd love to have my work back. Feel free to email it to me or stash it somewhere under my user namespace. i don't care. But I *do* care very much about having my work erased completely with no way to recover it. That is just wrong.

The page in question was Universal character development guide. Hopefully you haven't flushed the wiki's deletion cache yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaktiboy (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

You are not the only one, after a nice run in from them myself and now reading there talk page it seem there is a complete disregard for other users or there contribution. Makes me wonder what the talk pages are for and actually talking things through, when they seem like they are just going to do what they please. GhostAvatar 02:09, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

And I was "banned" from the wiki by Deadlykris for several days, because I made "bogus claims" of copyright violating, which prevented me from reporting a certain map that now fortunately has been removed. It's not my call, but it sounds like this admin isn't doing is job like he should.

Vault 47

Someone created a page with this vault.....i don't know how to remove it--Silverfox6000 09:11, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

now someone created this....plz delete....omg http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jason_Bright%27s_outfit --Silverfox6000 09:16, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

not again......remove this http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gray --Silverfox6000 11:48, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Van Buren

i was reading th desing doc's for Van Buren which got me wanting to make it on the geck. since that idea i have been reserching it on this web site which brings me to my question. i do travel a bit and i dont have internet when i travel but mostly mod when i travel. i have started saving pages to have to look back when i travel but theres so many . i was wondering if as you ar the site admin if you could sent me a link that would alow me to download all pages related to van burren as it would be a major help --eaa 00:17, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Image(s) not updating?

Hey Porter. I'm having difficulties with the images File:FO01 NPC Jain B.png, File:FO01 NPC Jain G.png, and File:FO01 NPC Jain N.png. Every time I have tried to update them from their last version (my first attempt at making larger pictures from the game files in Photoshop), it won't update versions. Unless this problem is strictly because of my browser, it's simply not updating the file version when I view it. If you could check out one of the images, and tell me if you see a difference between versions, tell me so I know that at least other people can see the updated one. Thanks - Ghouly89 (Talk) 21:17, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Page deleted for no apparent reason

Hi Porter,

Few days ago I was curious about how New Vegas calculates damage in combat. I looked through the wiki but could not find any info. After much in-game testing I figured out the combat formula used in New Vegas. I worked out where the game subtracts DT from the damage and where various damage multipliers such as difficulty multiplier, headshot multiplier, ammo type multiplier and various multipliers from perks such as Bloody Mess and Lord of Death. I decided to share my findings with the community. From the Combat page I saw links to Fallout combat and Fallout 3 combat, so it seemed natural to create a New Vegas Combat page with combat formulas used in Fallout New Vegas. Next day the page was deleted by User:Deadlykris. I was stumped. Why was it deleted? Was I in violation of some rule or guideline? There was no warning, no discussion, no attempt to improve the page, just outright deletion. I posted a message on User:Deadlykris' talk page but heard nothing back. Such behavior shows blatant disrespect for the contributions of others. It fits better with the definition of a vandal than someone who should have the best interests of the wiki in mind. I asked on User:Deadlykris' talk page if the information I contributed was elsewhere on the wiki. Was there a better place to put it? If I ran afoul of some rule, what could I do to remedy that? I take that all back. I've wasted enough time on this already. Good day.

Quaix 08:30, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oops that was a mistake, I thought I restored it already. It's restored now. --Kris User Hola.jpg 10:42, October 31, 2010 (UTC)


Ash has left the wiki forever. Why was that removed from the page? Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 17:40, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fallout: New Vegas Map

Hey just wondering if you're coming out with a map like Fallout 3? K2chris1983 16:11, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, the map is almost done! Need about 10 more locations, anyway you can lock it or prevent users from changing it, etc? K2chris1983 22:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Debate for Advanced power armor Mk II

Please see the debate I've started. Thanks my friend =). Itachou [~talk~] 22:14, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

Bloglist extension problems

Sorry for bugging you about this, since you have said you won't be maintaining the new skin. I wasn't sure who else I should notify...

The Bloglist extension has been changed by Wikia, so it currently looks bad on the main page. The "create blog post" button has returned etc. Basically, the "display:none" adjustments for it in CSS need to be updated.

Also, the Bloglist extension is completely bugged in all skins other than the Wikia/Oasis skin. (see the main page in Monobook and scroll down a ways; also the Blog feed pages) I submitted an error report about this to Wikia before the new skin even came out, but it hasn't been fixed. I think it can be (mostly) fixed by adding "display:none" for class WikiaBlogListingBox in the Monobook.css. ~ Gardimuer { ʈalk } 21:28, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :) It looks much better now. ~ Gardimuer { ʈalk } 23:07, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Notable bugs policy

Please weigh in on a proposed change in our written bugs policy.--Gothemasticator 01:06, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lily vandalism

The Lily Bowen page has been subject to a lot of drama over the past couple of weeks. It seems that there are some users who really, really, REALLY want everyone else to hear their (idiotic) opinions about who Leo is, and even though he has his own page, they keep editing Lily's page with their brilliant theories. "Leo is Lily's sword", "Leo is Uncle Leo from Fallout 3" and "Leo is a reference to Seinfeld". Can anything be done about this? I've been checking it every couple of days, and fixing when needed, but it's out of control and moderator intervention would be appreciated. CapAp 01:34, November 11, 2010 (UTC)


Hello Porter. I was wondering, is there any CSS page to the specialpages? If so, where do I find them? Or where can I see the wikitext? I need to copy them to the swedish The Vault.

Tobulos1 00:52, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

10mm pistol page merge

Please weigh in on a proposed page merge. - RASICTalk 17:09, November 15, 2010 (UTC)


No, that's not what I meant. I was talking about the (for exampel) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics where the word "Special" includes. I cannot see an "edit" button on these pages, so I was thinking that it might have something to do with some CSS?

Thanks, Tobulos1 14:41, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Floating images

In the now-defunct Monaco skin, as well as Oasis, you can click on an image on a page, and instead of going to the page for that image, it'll "float" in front of the page you're currently looking at. Any chance you can get that functionality working on Monobook? Oh and thanks again for getting the comments thing working. --Kris User Hola.jpg 23:33, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. Assuming there's a way to do it, would I be able to implement it for myself, alone, rather than for everyone using Monobook? I understand if you don't consider it worth the effort. --Kris User Hola.jpg 01:53, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fallout 3 guide

Sure. I forgot we even had this page. Ausir(talk) 17:14, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ammunition template

I have added in the the line so that icons can now be used as a option as per the documentation for the template, but for the life of me I can not figure out how to make it apply the small option switch for the icon template. I decided to try it out here and add the pipboy icon in the title bar, but at its current size makes it look awful, if resized to the 12px size I think it would fit nicely. Any chance you could take a look at it. Avatar 02:19, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

I figured a work around that doesn't require any editing of the templates. Since it scales the image to width I simply padded out the images and i think it works very nicely as shown here 25mm grenade. Avatar 17:06, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
Not really, cus it is scaling the height to the width, the width always stays at a static px size, so by padding the width in the image it makes the image longer and so when it scales it it essentially makes the image smaller in height, but does not increase the width that the icon takes within the title bar. At the moment I am only doing it for FNV ammo pages and it seem to be working fine. But I dont know, if its what you think is best? Avatar 17:25, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
OK so I played around with it a bit and yes your way works out better =P now time to redo all the icon images and upload them hihi Avatar 17:37, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


Given that we're splitting the ammo pages, can the weapon templates be modified to hide the disambiguation (e.g. to display .44 round, magnum (Fallout 3) as .44 round, magnum? Or just simply to accept e.g. "[[.44 round, magnum (Fallout 3)]] as the ammo parameter instead of ".44 round, magnum (Fallout 3)"? (Would require some bot work, I guess). Ausir(talk) 18:45, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, New Vegas weapons already can use two versions, e.g. all 5.56mm weapons can also use .223. Ausir(talk) 20:50, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
Also, got my e-mail? :) Ausir(talk) 20:52, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the mini nuke, I promise not to kill to many ghouls with it hihi. But I aint finished yet, got most the FNV pages up to scratch except the 5.56mm, which I am still leaving for the while as a example for the combining thread in the forums. Also got a good amount of ammo pages split to game only pages and a overview page done to .44 magnum spec. Once that is done I plan to look at the past game ammo pages as some I split I noticed where a complete mess. Avatar 20:13, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lol well sorry for taking away your fun, but at least they wont look so much of a mashed up content all over the place =)
Avatar 17:42, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
Just a FYI I upped the ammo template from 5 to 7 of each parameter Avatar 23:16, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Armageddon Rag

Do you think we should have a gameicon and abbreviation for The Armageddon Rag separate from FOOL? It's a somewhat independent publication, after all, like All Roads or One Man, and a Crate of Puppets. Ausir(talk) 16:55, November 22, 2010 (UTC)


Could you use your bot to remove it? I think a month after release we don't need a spoiler warning for it. Ausir(talk) 23:00, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can post it in the next wiki digest. Ausir(talk) 07:26, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

IMPORTANT: Stolen Fallout New Vegas Map

Hey there,

Sorry to bug you with this, but it seemed the fastest way towards a quick solution. Someone appears to have stolen my Fallout New Vegas Map that I and someone else created exclusively for gamefaqs.com and supercheats.com.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fallout_New_Vegas_Map_01.jpg http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:Fallout_New_Vegas_Map02.jpg

It appears it's been on the wiki for almost the entire month. I have never given permission and the image even clearly states it was made exclusively for these websites. Now it is being 'reworked' into a different map, probably without even giving credits to us. I highly regret seeing this map on here, because this seriously affects traffic towards the websites I mentioned. Since this was a paid job, future jobs for me depend on how successful the traffic was and is. With it having been posted here, traffic has been less on the other sites, mainly supercheats.

I kindly request you immediately remove these maps and appropriately deal with the thief, who clearly has no idea how much work went into that map, and who clearly has no idea what the effects can be of stealing someone's work and reposting it elsewhere.

Thanks for your time, and I do believe we share a similar vision: Helping as many people out as possible.

Absolute Steve, Game Guide Writer

I investigated the issue. The map on this wiki bears not even a passing resemblance to the maps on the Gamefaqs.com site. --Kris User Hola.jpg 10:30, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
Well, while the main map on Fallout: New Vegas map is clearly a different one based upon the map in the game assets, the ones Absolute Steve linked are pretty obviously based on his work (the first one even says so), so I'm removing them. Sorry about that, Steve, but I hope you understand that we have to rely on authors notifying us of possible copyright infringements during release times a bit more as usual due to the increased workload for our admin staff. -- Porter21 (talk) 13:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm glad everything worked out but also didn't like how he claim I stole his work or being reworked into something else. Even his credits was still on his map which I respected, but like I said before I got the image from a different site. I'm not that evil and stealing others work like this person did


Which is a copy of his work being altered into something else by replace his icons (fyi: I didn't do that). Steve works was cut because it didn't fit on the page but was left on this page for temp reasons, I also moved his image in the gallery because we had no use for it anymore. K2chris1983 16:22, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

That image is actually from the Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide (so you could probably start a discussion who stole what in the first place, but I don't really see the need - our own map is good enough). I also don't accuse you of malicious intent (otherwise you'd have removed the credit), but if it's his work he has the right to ask for it to be removed from the wiki. -- Porter21 (talk) 16:35, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I am not pointing at you or saying you accuse me but just saying my thoughts. I do agree what you say: "he has the right to ask for it to be removed from the wiki" and "our own map is good enough". K2chris1983 16:39, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't even check to see if there was more than one map, the concept of that being the case didn't even cross my mind. I just looked at the page in question and compared it to the map on Gamefaqs.com. --Kris User Hola.jpg 19:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Console commands

By the way, what do you think of merging the FO3 and FNV console command pages at e.g. Gamebryo console commands? Ausir(talk) 18:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Minor Issue

I just wanted you to know that Forum:Fallout: New Vegas general discussion sill refers to the game as "upcoming" at the top. Hardly an issue of galactic importance, but still one that manages to irk me to no visible end. The Grammar Police (Talk) 02:16, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


You know those token things for editing the pages you guys can give can you tell me what kind you can give and how to get them?? -- FalloutNewVegasmaster6644

Template weapon Fallout 1, 2, Tactics

Hello my friend, it's been a long time =)

Well, I noticed a small problem on the templates of Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics, only in Monobook. The " attack modes " line is filled with a white color instead of usual black.

I don't know if you can fix the problem or if it's not important but I wanted even when you point out. Good day my friend and see you soon ! Itachou [~talk~] 14:28, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nice, thank you my friend and good evening ;) ! Itachou [~talk~] 18:19, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Creature stats

As a follow-up to the character stats discussion, I posted Forum:Creature stats. What do you think? Ausir(talk) 14:43, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Archive tool bug

The archive tool is dropping a redlink to ArchiveList instead of using {{Archives}}. Just figured I'd let you know. --Kris User Hola.jpg 22:41, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Will do, thanks :) --Kris User Hola.jpg 22:48, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

CNCWiki Games Template

Hey P21, I wonder, would you be able to help me with the Games template on the CNCWiki? I just need help with a tweak, so that it displays like the one here, on the Fallout wiki. I managed to coax it into working order, but it doesn't clear the line properly. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:32, November 26, 2010 (UTC)


All the links on forums index go to the same place, the url is different but all the forums post titles are the same. Just thought you needed a heads up.JaspertheViking :D? 19:16, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Still there for me. When I choose a discussion link on index, e.g "Wiki discussion" it will take me to a page. When I click on a different discussion link, e.g "Fallout: New Vegas general discussion", although the url and page title are different all the Topics are the same. (They all start with "How to delete account by CrazyB", folowed by "Creature stats by Ausir" etc.)JaspertheViking :D? 19:42, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
While copying your new forum code I noticed something was broken. Currently all topics are listed among all boards. Hope you can fix it, it's a nice improvement --Light Daxter - Talk 20:35, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
This should now be fixed. -- Porter21 (talk) 21:28, November 27, 2010 (UTC)


0.o Something seems to be a miss with the wiki, forumlinks all display the same one. Games template is not showing the full length at the top of the page resulting in text being over the top of info boxes, text overlapping the overview nav boxes in Main FNV pages. ☣Avatar☣ 20:18, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Figured it was a CSS issue until I saw the the forums, then I figured it was Wiki along with the always annoying image issue not changing on updating. ☣Avatar☣ 21:50, November 27, 2010 (UTC)


You deleted that page seconds before I was about to slap a {{delete}} on it. Nice! ~ Midna 10:57, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

User blog comment dating system

I notice that user blog comments list the date of posting, but only by month and day. This leads to 2009 posts being listed as, for instance, "November 28." I have no idea where this setting even resides, let alone whether it's something we can fix from our end or need to contact wikia staff about. Do you know?--Gothemasticator 21:06, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

User_blog%3AAusir/Banned_from_Bethesda_forum|Here is an example of a 2009 blog post with blog comments not including which year they were posted.--Gothemasticator 21:36, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm... Must be controlled by user preferences, then. Where you see "10/28/09," I am seeing "August 28."--Gothemasticator 21:52, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bugs policy revised: new poll

Please review and vote on the revised proposed bug policy changes.--Gothemasticator 04:57, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Template:' retired?

Hi, I noticed that your bot substituted all (I presume) transclusions of {{'}} back in May.[1] Is the template still retired, and if so, why? —Shidou 03:12, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

1 year on

The Vault talk:Item page overhaul project —Preceding unsigned comment added by GhostAvatar (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Knock knock, can you check the talk page for use please. ☣Avatar☣ 19:46, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


Block this guy: User: Malice X Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 14:59, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


Hey i have a question but i didnt know if i was supposed to leave a message here or not for it... its on my talk page i really dont feel like typing it all again lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malice X (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

I have replied there. -- Porter21 (talk) 15:46, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

The policy i added on the page already exists but isn't mentioned on the page. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 16:03, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

CSS class standardization?

Small question but why the whole va prefix in css classes? I'm interested mostly because I use the same css code and I will have to follow up with you eventually, but it just looks like more work to me. --Light Daxter - Talk 17:23, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


No i meant the mod one. Tagaziel and Deadlykris said it is a policy. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 17:42, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


I didn't know that. --Kris User Hola.jpg 19:27, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

I thought it just meant sub-pages like User:Deadlykris/My modded weapons and stuff. I removed the cascading protection from my user page. --Kris User Hola.jpg 19:35, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

File Maintenance Project


Looked over the active projects; and wanted to work on this one. Thing is, while this project is active, it's leadership is less so. Lead, Ph03n1x is officially checked out, so I wrote to Metalspork. The other project people haven't been inactive for very long- I know this is impatient, I just wondered who may be the current acting lead and what status of 'active' this project might be in. I'm going to go imitate Oliver Twist and wait for the word from you guys on Mt. Olympus. If I need to take this elsewhere, feel free to initiate protocol:pimphand and send me in the right direction! Thanks.

--Pu239AndYou 19:59, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Porter, i understand you ve just been asked by the user above if he could participate in the project The Vault:File maintenance project and you refered him to me. It seems the project leader hasn t been active for a long time, so after a little thinking i m prepared to take part in this project. I ve been enjoying creating those npc images, it s very rewarding for me. I m even prepared to take over the projectleadership, of course after your approval. So let me know what you think; in any case i ll add my name to the project. --Jspoelstra 22:51, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
Hi Porter,
I ve given User:Pu239AndYou some instructions (see his talk page) how to create good images for the npc file maintenance project. I think an image size of around 150 kb, with a good res should be fine. Are you ok with that? Better make a good start from the beginning. One guideline i don t quite understand: -Add a brief description to each image if none exists, preferably including the character name, game, and location.- Should this be added in the box with the license and category lines? --Jspoelstra 02:15, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
In the messages between Jspoelstra myself and you it seems to have come up a question regarding ideal resolution. I was already planning on being mindful of disk space in light that the most use of an image of an n.p.c. is on that character's page and is restricted to a lesser size and that size's max resolution. I was planning on high resolution captures(1400x900 screenshot with ULTRA launcher settings) and resizing them to the EXACT size shown in a character box and not using Wikia's resizer at all, to maintain quality. Since disk space isn't a problem, is there a desire for massive wall poster images, even in compact .jpg that are auto-resized, or would the A-1 %100 best you can fit in the character page box at 14x10 ratio be useful enough to the vault? I'm not certain what that exact size was and was curious if you knew. It's been depressing finding out how little of the necessary knowledge I had to do this immediately; but as quick as I'm figuring it out, the more I find I don't know the more skills I wind up having. Looking forward to providing spec images soon! FYI I have a multiple week holiday trip upcoming soon and I put all my eggs into a hot rod desktop, so I would very much appreciate a crash-rundown of protocol for being AWL, besides posting it on one's profile.
Sorry for the book message - Pu239AndYou 01:06, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Toolbar button additions

How about adding the Leave Message and Archive buttons to the toolbar while on talk pages (and a talk page link as well?). --Light Daxter - Talk 23:33, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

New article

hi porter,,could you please help me,, i made a new article but i feel like it's useless without an image + i have done some digging but i can't find one for it, could you please read it and try to find an image that's appropriate for it (There is 1 in the fallout 3 official guide book but i don't think theres a copy of that on the web) Raider wreckage fortifications- article Cheers ____ Tommygunner32 15:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

thanks a lot porter ur doin an amazing job as a admin\beuracrat,,the article i made is now good enough to be on the wiki :) is there any specific projects u want me to help with btw Tommygunner32 20:34, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Location maps

Hi Porter. Today i ve been roaming the forum and stumbled upon a discussion about location maps. That took my interest because in the past weeks i ve been adding and replacing map marker images for almost all locations in New Vegas. On that discussion page [[2]] there was being talked about a new map marker image. I looked at the dates of the discussion and noticed that that was almost 2 years ago. Seems it never really took off, seeing the current infoboxes of Fallout 3. Personally, i wouldn t have liked the idea of that map of Wikipedia, also because the infobox would become too long and too full with maps. Now I m not sure you know, but i ve been talking with Ausir User_talk:Ausir#Marking_for_deletion_topic about replacing the map marker images of Fallout 3 and he has ok'd it. You know by now that i like working with images, and i m looking forward to this project. So i want to do it about the same way as i did with New Vegas, possibly with in a corner a little square box, representing the total map of the game, and in that box, a rectangle (2:1), representing the part of the map that s being displayed. Haven t tried that part out yet, but looks like a good idea to me. On an administrative note, i can t seem to unfollow a few pages on my userpage (some bug i think), can you unfollow them for me? --Jspoelstra 20:34, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

It s a good thing then i informed you about my plans about making those maps for FO3. Would all work have been for nothing. Still think it would have been a nice improvement though. But your idea looks good too, i suppose. By the way, that was a good tip on how to unfollow pages, i ve cleared my list. And now i think of it... just curious, when will the images i marked for deletion actually be deleted? --Jspoelstra 01:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Page layout

When I play Fallout, I usually use my iPod Touch or iPhone to go on to the Vault to look things up. I was wondering if you have control of how the mobile page looks? The reason why I'm asking this is because whenever I go on the Vault via iPhone or iPod, the Blog section on the home page doesn't appear. TrailerParkApe MkII 23:02, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty, I took care of that and sent them a message. Thanks Porter. TrailerParkApe MkII 19:17, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

NCR Infamy: Pardon

I have heard talk of being able to get a pardon for all previous crimes to the NCR from the embassy. Is this true? and if it is, how do i get such a pardon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pal132 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

MediaWiki list

Hi Porter21. I was wondering if you could do a complete list of MediaWiki pages? As well the template pages? Because it's one hell of a job to search everyones username and look there. So if there is a list of these two, I'd be greatful :) Tobulos1 17:13, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Mass deleting files

I think mass deleting all files currently tagged for deletion is a bad idea. I've gone through some of them and quite a lot of them were tagged as such just for being unused, even though they should be added to articles instead. Ausir(talk) 03:17, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Fallout: New Vegas map

Hey Porter21, just look at the map and do the undo back to mine. I feel like my eyes are burning! K2chris1983 20:48, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Tokens again

Sorry for taking so long. On GhostAvatar's page it says "You have been given a personal mini-nuke as a token on apresiation. (i dont know how to spell that) Good work on the weapons pages. FalloutNewVegasmaster6644 02:22, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I just bought the game a few hours ago, i left the Doc's building and clicked the left button, it put me in combat, i cannot get out of combat by pressing any of the keys on the keyboard, how do i get out of combat again? thanks. James

I was close...

Hi Porter, just saw you edited my category creation of Dead money non-player character images. Almost there, missed one. Been staring at it for a while, think i now about understand it. Don t quite see the reason why you added the |... though, but ok. Greets and a good weekend --Jspoelstra 19:04, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


Well that explains why I can't change it, I thought it was a setting in the wiki somewhere. Message sent, thanks. :) --Kris User Hola.jpg 19:41, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox weapon FNV

Hi, just wanted to let you know I have edited this template, there was a issue with multiple perks that affected the explosive damage. The height of the icon for explosive damage (ExplosionIcon explosion.png) was knocking the second row modified damage to the left and the third row modified damage down onto a new line. I have corrected this by inline styling the div for each perk and increased the line-height from 13px to 14px. Also perk needs to be upt to 4 as item like dynamite are affected by up to 4 perks, I would do it but I dont want to mess with the formula as I will most likly break it hihi.

Also had to apply the same formatting to the FO3 weapons info box.

Also I have added in a formula that should now show effects on the dps datarow, its not great but works as long as there is a DPS value, otherwise there is a unexpected expression error, hope all is well with what I have done.

On another note, I never got around to mentioning it, but with the source box edits, personally I think it looks better when both the opening and closing being the same length. When they are differing length I find in some what distracting, as a example.

Icon cut content.pngThe following is based on Fallout New Vegas cut content and has not been confirmed by canon sources.
Icon cut content.pngEnd of information based on Fallout New Vegas cut content.

To me that just doesn't look right. ☣Avatar☣ 22:21, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Update, I forgot to add in a equation to adjust DPS for weapons with explosive damage, I tried to add it in but failed. I know the equation that needs to be added to express the value but it doesn't seem to like it, I am guess I am getting all mixed up with the {{}} and not placing the closing brackets in the right place (God I hate the amount of those that are needed). So I added a simply if statement to not show modified damage on the DPS for weapons with explosive damage effects, but all the straight up impact weapons should still display with correct values. ☣Avatar☣ 00:30, December 24, 2010 (UTC)


remove 7 link limit on the top bar drop down menu[3] ☣Avatar☣ 01:47, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just another update for you

User_talk:Ausir#Ye_Olde_Weapon_Infobox to address on your return. ☣Avatar☣ 17:56, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Problems with portals

Hi Porter!

I was wondering if you could help me on my Fallout Wiki. You see, on every portal page I create, it looks like this: http://sv.fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout

As you can see the whole portal content is all "pushed" together, because the ads and wiki activity is there. If you compare to the english Vault http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout you can clearly see that the english has more "space" so to speak.

So... where can I change this, so it looks like the english The Vault? (Also keep in mind that my Vault is kinda new, so I may miss some pages, but I don't think so. Although if that's the case, please tell me what I'm missing)

Thank you for reading! tobulos1 21:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Something else that needs attension


I have figured the issue to be with IE8 rendering the page as a IE7 document and causing the issue, I dont know if you have access to the meta tags for the wiki and forcing IE to switch document type to IE8 where possible. ☣Avatar☣ 02:14, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I need wikicode help

Can you tell me how to make, let's say, two bloglists side-by-side. Thank you. Matt of the wastes 10:24, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nah it's okay now I've fixed it with Ausir. Have a look at the mainpage here. Just keep scrolling down and you might see it. Matt of the wastes 22:06, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Featured images

Hi Porter, Welcome back, hope you had a good vacation. Been skiiing?

I have read your response on the forum concerning the images, I'm willing to look for more some variety in other categories. I selected location images because panoramic views of locations I think are one of the best eye-catchers. And weapons because they are popular with the wiki-visitors.

And I've taken another look at the project page and have added my name to the The_Vault:Fallout_New_Vegas_locations_project. I'd like to become project leader, also since the other participants haven't been active very much. Or maybe projectleadership isn't necessary, there isn't one now. Let me know, ok? --Jspoelstra 16:32, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the update =) Just to address the message you left me:

  • Do you need me to revert the changes I made to the infoboxes, in regards to icons now being fixed.
  • Same again here, do you need me to revert the text colour modifications I made, now you have fixed that as well.
  • Yeah I realised it is a combination of the {{Infobox}} and the way IE handles the box in relation to the interactions box, I decided to change {{Interactions}} as that would only affect the character pages, instead of {{Infobox}} that would have affected a lot larger array of pages. If {{infobox new}} does not suffer from this formatting issue, I may suggest that I make the relevant changes to {{Infobox}} and revert the changes to {{Interactions}} in readiness for {{Infobox new}}, that way when it is introduced there will be no extra jobs attached to its implementation. The actual fix to {{Infobox}} is not that bad to be honest, all it requires is increasing the padding already in existence to the images from 10px to a max of 15px.
  • Let me know if you need any help in regards to the DPS modification etc.

☣Avatar☣ 20:39, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Forgot to add, what did you think of the idea about increasing the drop down menus. ☣Avatar☣ 20:41, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, just checked and you got all of them already =) as for the reserved space with CSS styling on "va-infobox-space", nice solution and works much better as it keeps all the boxes in line now and is hardly noticeable compared to my quick fix. ☣Avatar☣ 21:14, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Climb Ev'ry Mountain

Thank you, I also implemented it in I Don't Hurt Anymore as well. I picked it up from that actual page of yours that you posted, decided to try it out in a actual page with something more than a linear quest line to see how well it worked. I have now started browsing the templates categorie to see what other hidden treasures there are that I can use and considering working up the help page so others can contribute. ☣Avatar☣ 20:46, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Templates be broken


Unless my laptop is broken, there's something FUBAR about the list templates. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 08:48, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Flour and "Flour"

These are actually 2 separate items 00074ee1 and 0013f0eb, just thought I would let as it is now could be confusing with the details of Flour for FNV residing in the Flour page along with FO3 and "Flour" being where you have put it. ☣Avatar☣ 22:09, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

My Bad, just noticed it was Tezzla that made the move, so ignore what I wrote. ☣Avatar☣ 22:18, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Something's broken

Hey P., I don't know if it's an issue with my Google Chrome or if you are experiencing it too, but..

  1. I can't see the Games template here or on the C&C Wiki
  2. The tables and RC do not collapse
  3. Is it possible that .js has somehow stopped working for me?


http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 20:11, January 15, 2011 (UTC)


Just found this template (Template:Confirmed-fnv) made by another user, looks like they made it for Fallout: New Vegas exploits page, well I have done some editing and I think it works quite well. I have tested it out on this page as a example (Weathered 10mm pistol), as those who do not patch there game keep adding the bug of missing meshes and I think this template should stop such issues. Also it might work well with the {{verify}} template. I dont know if you can make any use of it at all (maybe change fixed as of date to fixed as of patch, linking it to the patch page), but I thought I would bring it to your attension. ☣Avatar☣ 20:11, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, yeah the last discussion was the voting on the revised bug policy. ☣Avatar☣ 21:05, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Creature articles

Grrr, guess I have to play it by ear until a layout guide is created (and yes defiantly needed, some pages are a complete hack job). How does one go about such a process here, how where the other layout guides made up, I guess it will require a forum post and discussion. Also on the subject of page layouts, after looking at some of the pages on the Wiki and how quickly they get messed up (especially by anons), I came up with a idea that I dont know how useful it would be. But it would be nice if there was a script that say when editing a page reads the info box variants in the edit box, then displays a link to the layout guide for that particular page type, dont know if the workload on something like that would be worth the return. ☣Avatar☣ 21:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Figured as much with the script, especially after viewing your to do list =\ But to be honest most of the issues either stem from the original creation of the pages when FNV was released, or pages that pre-date the layout guideline and have not been updated. For the pre-dated pages I think that is just a project waiting to happen, for the newer content the damage is done and should be updated to spec overtime by regular editors, since the edits by anons have declined from the original launch date. I think the real value of the script would come into play when new content is launched and those pages are created, regularly updated and edited. So to be honest I can see it being some time before something like that would be really needed. ☣Avatar☣ 22:12, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

More broken stuff

Can you tell me how to fix .css issues? The skin on the CNC Wiki doesn't display properly for anon users. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 21:43, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

I mean it displays the bright blue background, rather than Tiberium Fields. Furthermore, the "disabled" features are rearing their ugly head on the STALKER wiki. Or maybe those are just cache issues. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:06, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Creature stats

I think there maybe a issue with this template as evident here Cyberdog. ☣Avatar☣ 01:11, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


Looks great! And yeah, I probably should archive it. :) Ausir(talk) 10:16, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox NPC's smaller?

Hi Porter, I know you've been working on the NPC infobox template and maybe it's just me, but I have the feeling the box has become just a little smaller. The SPECIAL stats now don't fit anymore on one line and that's annoying. Luck is pushed down to the second line. Can you take you look at it? Jspoelstra 14:54, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

  • And I have removed Fallout 3 key remants on the overview page of New Vegas keys. Hope that's ok.
  • Well, Sunny Smiles and Caesar for example. Luck is (at least on my PC) pushed down to the second line.
  • I've tried Chrome and here it's ok. Typefont is just a tad smaller so it fits. Must be my typefont setting in Explorer then I think. I'll figure it out.
I do believe Jspoelstra is on IE9, this could be a beta issue with the browser. ☣Avatar☣ 22:12, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Moving page

I have made some edits to the Vault 34 dweller page, but have noticed today that the human survivors lead by Horowitz are also called Vault 34 Dweller. I think maybe the current page should be changed to a creature page and the current one kept as an NPC page. I would do it myself, but I wasn't sure if that is allowed. Should I do it? The Emporer 01:08, January 18, 2011 (UTC)


dude cool down i just joined today give me a(n) idea and maybe ill type about it

Sign your posts with a ~ four times.Vault 815 02:18, January 19, 2011 (UTC)



Could you pull the Ref id and the Cell id of the Abandoned BOS Bunker in new vegas. Both the ids for before and after Dead Money is Installed. Thanks,

Vault 815 02:17, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

One user with multiple accounts creating fake articles etc.

There is one user with what i think to be either multiple accounts, or they are editing other users pages, and they are setting all of these redirects to other user pages, so i was just wandering if you could sort it out please? The account names I've managed to find so far that are connected to the aformentioned user are; EatmyNuclearColeslaw TheDinnerofKimballisLegate AegisClans263 ErzaScarlet Thanks,--KieranBOS 12:08, January 19, 2011 (UTC)


Hello sir, That you helped craft much of the layout of the wiki, and i was wondering if you would be willing to help a wiki that I am an admin on. I want to add content portals similar to how the vault works, and I am not so good at editing. ralok 16:16, January 19, 2011 (UTC)


Has a:visited been changed or added, as it no longer changes colour when visiting a page. ☣Avatar☣ 01:58, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh ok, its just I found it very useful when going through lists of pages that are cached, like orphaned or dead end pages. Also I dont know if this is effected to much by the new page style, but .fallout-table a:link is still present, but I guess that isn't going to interfere with the interface elements that are concerned. P.S. Loving the script for {{Games}}. ☣Avatar☣ 19:15, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
That is true, but honestly I dont like modifying my interface. I like to keep it as close to the default as possible, so I experience things as the casual reader would. ☣Avatar☣ 19:47, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


Very nice job on the new rendition of Template:Games.

Cheers, Javascript wizard ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 18:38, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Location maps

Ohhh forgot to mention, I heard you have something planned for the location maps. I thought I would let you know that I am trying something out with imagemapping on two pages as a trial, 188 Trading Post and Vault 34. I doubt you can make any use of it, as knowing you, you are most likely got something planned that uses a script. But I thought I would bring it to your attention anyways. ☣Avatar☣ 20:00, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh kk, well I am not to up on the Wiki template syntax, so I dont know how you are going to achieve the centering etc with transclude on the location pages.
As for imagmapping, I actually found a browser based website, that allows for easy imagemapping that even a novice can do, might be of us for the main template. ☣Avatar☣ 22:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


Hey Porter

Can you make me a special template that requires your expertise. It shall be based on this wiki's template Location but called weaponsbox2. It will be the exact same as template:location except it wont have map marker, cell name and ref id. Replacing them will be unlocked, character build and Weapon type. Also take away the icon at the top-right corner if template:location infobox and, instead of grey and green as main colours, use light blue and dark blue as colours. Thank-you if you can create this template. By the way this is for my wiki, Brink wiki.

Matt of the wastes 22:41, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Location maps

Hi Porter, I saw your response concerning location maps on Avatars page. When you will have time for this? I was planning on improving my own locations maps somewhat (size, marker clarity), but if you're planning on it soon, I better leave it then, I suppose. Jspoelstra 23:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox weapon FNV

Template:Infobox weapon FNV

Just to let you know, Nitpicker was asking about the weapons template and being able to link the ammo type to FNV namespace ammo pages, but not include the namespace in the displayed link. I have inserted a new parameter into the template (ammoname) with a if statement that will change the link displayed name to that parameter if it exists. Everything seems to be fine and it looks like it works, but I thought I would let you know just in case you know of a better way. Or if anything goes wrong, you know who to blame ..... Nitpicker =D ☣Avatar☣ 01:43, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I was over thinking it, I leave it up to your judgement on what is best, personally I like the auto linking just because anons dont. But if you do remove it, I would suggest letting Nitty know, before he goes running around and adds the parameter to other pages. ☣Avatar☣ 21:11, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fallout 3 Overhaul Project

As you may notice, I'm not currently logged in. I don't think I have an account yet for wikia, and I'm rather a newbie at editing pages and all that, so with such in mind, I tend to simply bring up potential important info and q's and faults in talk pages, however, this is a slightly bigger request/discussion/problem/talk to be had.

There are many overhaul projects, but I believe one very important feature is currently missing IMO. (Of note: As of this point in time, i currently only own FO3, though I plan on purchasing the FO1, 2, Tactics/BoS combo classics package in the near future and FO:NV when it better fits a glitch-less condition and price range that is much better for me. I will eventually own all of them, but as said, do not yet)

But I want to start a new Overhaul Project. Fallout (3) Merchant/Store/Shop overhaul project.

On the wikia, there's that thing at the top with the pulldown menu, and if you click on FO3, there's a really handy redirect page which has main access to most of the necessary info to help with a playthrough, but one thing is missing and it seems rather big to be missing... Merchants/Vendors and/or their Shops and Stores. After extensive looking and actually via a redirect page for all FO3 merchants (A category page from Friday NPC from The Pitt add-on that I was looking at) I eventually came across 3-5 different pages, but all are rather bland and don't give all the necessary information. Most can find the merchants, and that's about all the important info on their page. I have noted that on Lock'N'Load's unmarked miniquest "Economics of Violence" and a very limited few specified (rather hard to find pages) shop pages, they actually have more important info, mainly stock.

Mian reasons I think this project is necessary:

1. Knowing the best places to shop. E.G. let's say you favor the Lincoln Repeater, you need a rather rare .44 Magnum Round... which vendor can and usually stocks the most of it so you don't have to hop all around the wasteland or wait/waste days (through the overall game) to get to Lucky Harith at one of his stops?

2. Knowing what shops carry to know if you think they're worth preserving. E.G. Let's say (my exact case) You're a good-aligned char. You need to do the quest "Picking Up the Trail" Note: -You previously attempted a ?diplomatic? solution for Tenpenney Tower, Now Susan is dead. -You previously killed Arkansas while under hostile threat attempting the Wasteland Survival guide. -Perhaps you can take the Karmic hit but you neither wish to lose a convenient doctor in the wasteland nor a VERY good shop (as the pages of Flak'N'Shrapnels makes it very clear that, even though Shrapnel is necessary, due to a requirement of sleeping near Flak, if you enslave him, you can lose his shop permanently; and considering the quality of the shop, you aren't prepared to allow this.)

Should you just gut the place? I was forced to in order to complete "Rescue from Paradise" (even though I took Child At Heart Perk to also get into Little Lamplight easily) Or is Lock'N'Load worth it? ~The pages should help this. Esp. if the project and whoever works on it can get all the right (stock & restock) information on the page)

3. Easier knowledge of good shop unloading points. Are you an obsessive completionist player who can't walk back with anything less than everything? too encumbered to do that? Is there a good unload shop between your destination (probably your home, a good stop-off recoup point between trips, scavenges, and quests) and you? The info is there, on pages like in the Rivet City page, or in the "Fallout_3_merchant" page, but finding a link to that page (I found) is rather hard (could be just me), a direct link on the FO3 page labelled "Merchants" (under Characters) or "Shops/Stores/Vendors" (Under locations) or something similar (Under misc?) would be highly helpful. Maybe someone doesn't know that Agatha or the Temple of the Union can be a stopping spot where an encumbered player can wait for a merchant, the info might be able to make such info better accessible. Or the location of any other (Usually more rare in the Northern part of the map) Merchant can be pointed out from the main page.

4. Related to #2, yet another example. My current dilemma is on The Pitt Add-On, and it brings up a question with Flak'N'Shrapnels shop. The infiltrator, being scoped and silenced is a great sneak-based weapon. That and the Gamma Shield armor, are they Rare, "Unique," or Limited (I know, of coursed that the Perferator, and not the Infiltrator is unique). Mainly the last quest gives a few things: Is it more worth it to Kidnap the baby? Kidnap the baby and then have a change-of-heart, or Kill/Convince Wernher to go away from the start? Is there a reverse where you start vs. Wernher and then side with him in the end? (basically do the mission on Ashur's side, then after everything is over, kill only him for his unique armor and get away with it? without turning his wife hostile for the unmarked ongoing teddy bear quest) The main factors to be weighed are: The shop survival (Friday lives is a pull factor, caps weapons and armor are always of value to the Lone Wanderer), The Karma result, The reward from the victor (The same in both cases, A good perk), and possibly Ashur's Armor (Unique).

If Friday restocks Infiltrators or Gamma Shield armor, then it's not limited, and she's of value, if not, then I saw nothing of value in her stock otherwise. Same issue was brought up with Flak'N'Shrapnel. On the FO3 Weapon main page, it says that the Fat Man is Limited. 11 max with OA. If Flak sells it (I've seen one in his shop), then it may not be limited, but if, like schematics, he never restocks it, then it is, in fact, limited. This can be important info.

I think that's all I can think of for now, I hope I got the point across with this, but I face one main dilemma. I'd gladly sign up and help all I could; however, I am a console player, something noted on the Overhaul Projects main page as a problem. I don't have access to the G.E.C.K.

It seems when vendors restock they have specific items, though. It's like they have a fixed restock inventory of ~50 items of a very specific type and condition and value and it picks 30 at restock. Ammo it picks a random number up to whatever it's max is.

For Example, if you meet Crow (After investment) he can have as much as 4 Combat Armors of varying condition relative to each other; however, he tends to have 2 that stack due to equal condition and value, and one of higher condition than those two and maybe one of lower condition than those two (Maybe more, or the two stacked may be of the lowest condition, I can't remember perfectly as of this point in time) But if you buy these armors and come back after restock, he will have more, and if you buy them they never seem to be of unique condition. If he has all 4, and you buy all 4 and put them all in the same container with the last batch of 4, the armors stack, 2 of the highest quality, 4 of the mid quality and 2 of the lowest quality.

After restock, no merchants ever seem to have one of 54% cnd, 37% cnd, and 12% cnd one time; then 16% cnd, 2 of 36% cnd, and 3 of 43% cnd the next time; then 5 of 7% cnd, 2 of 38% cnd, and one of 71% cnd the next time, the ones that return are always "up to a max of 3 at 17% cnd, a max of 2 at 34% cnd, and a max of 1 at 48% cnd" (for example, not exact). Now there's probably a random generator which determines this, but it seems to select from a specific selection. Someone with G.E.C.K. access might be able to confirm or deny this, but it would take someone with a G.E.C.K. to do so and then extract and write up the information...

Last, I think every merchant should have a general description (including their general stock type), a link to the shop owner(s)'(s) own page from their shop/merchant page (In the general description), A location section (short and simple except for the caravan merchants), a Max/Min caps value at restock section, and a stock/inventory/restock section with the maximum amount of w/e they can stock including multiple columns of info. (More to be added if such are thought of and add important information)

Columns Being: -Item (Name) -Type of Item/Category (armor/weapon/misc/etc.) -Condition at purchase (%) -Value (#) -Max Number that can be stocked at restock (#)

things like Combat armor in which multiple of differing conditions can appear, should have different entries for each differing condition. I.E. if they can have 7 max, you don't have 7 unless all 7 restock with differing conditions (Doesn't Happen as far as I know)

Also, if upon the selling of certain items, they disappear (I think selling weapons to Crow or Misc. Items to Flak, they disappear, if not, I think you get the idea, certain items dissappear instantly rather than taking until the next restock point) instantly, then it is of value noting on the page.

Store information as to what they sell etc. should only be brief from then on, on NPC pages and once the page of the merchant version is complete, something like only the General Description should be excerpted onto their NPC page, the rest just goes on the Merchant page and a Link to all related Merchant pages goes on the NPC's page. (Flak and Shrapnel would have a link to the Flak'N'Shrapnel page each) and the merchant/shop page would include a link to Flak and Shrapnel's individual pages each.

Sorry for the length, and thank you for reading. Please consider this.

Edit: I'm looking for help getting this started as I don't know what or how to do it exactly, and you're an admin. Also: I guess I did have an account, it turns out, I used my generic Username and Password, and got lucky guessing it. Blaze55555 02:18, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Should this user be banned?

Hello, and thank you for the welcome to the Fallout Wiki! I recently noticed an egregious violation of the rules of the wiki, and wanted to suggest that the perpetrator be banned from further posting. Please see the page Fallout: New Vegas items, and note the edits made by Anonymous User I removed the vulgarities that were entered by this user. Please let me know if I did the right thing by editing out the user's posts and alerting you to this potential issue. Thank you for your time. EganioTalk 03:00, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it...glad I could help. EganioTalk 19:02, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re:The Vault: Fallout 3 Overhaul Projects.

Re:Fallout 3 Overhaul Project

After I send this, I'm going to the help page to get better situated with these wikias... Heh... not sure if I'm responding right.

The main problem was: Though I've been the The_Vault:_Projects page, I have never actually made one of these projects or the page, and as said above, I'm not exactly an expert on Wikia page formatting... the most I know is the 2 equal sign one each side of a title to make it bigger and bold. I do not specifically have knowledge on how to do that, and was asking that you aid with at least project launch. I mostly got most or all of what you were saying and agreed with a lot of it... I did leave off repair skill.

I'm not certain if I got all of my long long message across the first time, and for the most part, I get your explanation of what I noticed. Basically what appears is never truly random, though, and all items can be identified as I thought.

Also, I know that I can help, without access to G.E.C.K. but it was mainly those things, access to that strange special merchant trunk that I would need help with. With it being a "project" and all, I obviously wouldn't expect you to do everything that required G.E.C.K. access. I would expect a bunch of people both with and without G.E.C.K. access to help. I've seen what has been done so far and everyone working seems to be very much so competent at doing great work and working together well... I haven't seen any affected pages yet with any trolls or metaphorical cogs in the vault projects' wheels. I am and simply was asking that you aid me in getting it started with the main page. The overhaul of that page you linked.

(Edit: Not->) Last related point: I'm certain you recognize the link "http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout_3" It's the main redirect page I use to get to anything I'm looking for. Like an Index I mean. It's highly convenient, and I suspect I'm not the only one who uses it for such a purpose. Well, I suspected as much that the Fallout_3_Merchants was mean to be the main info/redirect/merchant index page for all stores shops and vendors, but it doesn't even have a link on the main "index" page mentioned right above.

And in terms of the pages to be "made" I think I messed up my point there. I don't want to make any new pages, I think most exist already, though I'm not 100% sure where they get names for some shops (Boutique Le Chiq or w/e, is that on a sign I missed?) I would just expect the overhaul to take effect on those in the ways mentioned. E.G. the whole Flak'N'Shrapnels which you linked, it would get links to the already existing Flak and Shrapnel pages. (2 individual links in the proper section) and both Flak and Shrapnel would get the appropriate link to their joint store on their pages, simply added if not already there... The store and shop pages all are there already, I believe, but I think they're in the locations section. and info on the shopowners is already their but it's in the NPC pages. Ones covered in the NPC Overhaul Project, the other in the Locations Overhaul Project... the stores seem like under such split management, it seemed like they may not have ever gotten their proper overhaul'age.

P.S. sorry for not using links in the original message. Currently, the comp I have is a good comp, but its S key is broken. I have to stop typing for as much as 5 minutes and mess with it, wiggling my finger pressing hard and it's just a mess, so I have "sS" copied to my clipboard. For the much more common lower case, I hit ctrl+v (paste, which I'm 99.99% sure you knew already) and then I hit backspace, meanwhile, my WPM hardly recognizes the difference. For the less common upper case, I have to hit ctrl+v, <-- (back/left arrow), backspace, --> (forward/right arrow) and then continue... it's almost easier to type out URL addresses from this site... they're rather simplistic and not as hard to type as other sites.

Last, I have a small (maybe medium/large) favor to ask. All of this was brought up with my Friday/The Pitt problem. Can you check the G.E.C.K. on her, if at all possible, and tell me if she has the ability to sell the rare (otherwise limited) Infiltrator weapon or the rare (otherwise limited) Gamma Shield Armor, or if saving her is moot as I've seen everything she has to offer (save the pitt raider armor which I already have more than enough of for my collection-obsessed self) I've seen sold in the Capitol Wasteland. <-- is that the correct spelling of "Capit(a/o)l"? that's one pairing I never got...

Last unrelated point, it came to mind when I was typing the last paragraph of the related message. In the locations overhaul project, many locations in the D.C. area are sectioned off from all other places. Could someone make it more clear as to which exits and metro things access each specified area. Also, to each location in a sectioned part of a map, could they have a pic of the general map with what part that section they're in covers? It could help someone ingame. They could merely look at it, compare to their D.C. map and then put a marker inside the area, hopefully, the marker would then properly take them through the quickest metro tunnel route to get to their intended destination. Rather than trying to give directions to an unnamed map, local map description etc. that may be necessary to try and help someone clearly get to their intended destination. Otherwise a clear line path on a bunch of local maps seems to be the only other easy and clear way to give directions to certain areas. (I.E. Falls Church Metro Station, etc.)

I believe that last bit can be done by anyone with G.E.C.K. access. or access to a completed D.C. map picture, knowledge of the extent of whichever intended section they plan on highlighting, and knowledge of image editting. And Apologies for anything unclear in this last section. If you get the idea, then I'd say you're a genius as, after rereading it myself, I only get what I mean because I already know what I meant when I was writing it... but I see no way to improve/edit my idea aside from improved punctuation...

Sorry for this being long yet again, thank you a bunch for reading it yet again, and I hope you understand all of what I've said and can help.

Okay, HOW do you do that indent thingy? I've checked all over the help and can't figure it out...

I think you've gotten pretty much everything I've said.

1) I did mean the former, and after the 3rd try looking at your link, I finally found the thing you were talking about/understood what you were/are talking about, though still only somewhat get it. I'd still like help in one of two ways. I can make it, then you edit all the errors I'm certain I'm bound to stumble into, or you could do it, and I wouldn't complain, but rather thank you gratefully. Also, a certain/specific name for it would have to be agreed upon. Fallout 3 Merchant Overhaul (Project) sound good, if not lengthy?

2) With that table/pic on the FO3 metro page (which I had yet to find apparently... I still need to get use to navigation here... ) helps a lot, but it still leaves out info. 1. pics of the local maps of the non-world-map-placed unnamed metro under tunnel "rooms" that go from one to another to get places. I.E. to get to GNR, my map marker took me to the metro across the river from Megaton (Farragut West Station?) through 3 loading rooms. One of which has no location on the world map b/c it never even connects to it. Now, is that faster or is walking the additional ~2-3 boxes to Friendship Heights Station faster to get directly to Chevy Chase North? (I currently question it b/c a glitch I believe caused by my game thinking I'm actually already ahead in the game, into Broken Steel, has me now run across 90% of the wasteland about 3 separate times just to run into the presidential metro door which is locked and leaves me stranded, unable to perhaps fix said glitch... meanwhile, when I could be standing right next to Megaton and it would be as such regardless). Basically the general knowledge and estimation of the length and distance of each route from one spot to another changes. Some metro junctions are closer and have less load screens to get to your spot. It's hard to tell though without having gone everywhere underground... thus a little highlighted portion of a world map pic on each page might make it easier. Put a marker anywhere in the section > Supposed fastest route there. That one extra image on each page, and letting the kamikaze map take your there via the roughly-shortest route possible, or kind of guess it with the rather unmapped metros... OR, make maps like the World Map page where the locations of exits. etc. are marked by a specific link, of which takes you to that page, just like clicking the Blue megaton square on the world map page takes you to megaton. (still sounds like more work). Or leave it all alone. I just see a potential way to "improve" it with a simple picture on each page.

-now that I thought of this, each such exit page has a rough local map of itself. all it would take is that completed world map pic, the local map pic and line it up via one world map marker (e.g. mama dolce's) then enlarge and line up any second working marker (a metro or I think the Arlington cemetery north or Hubris Comics are also there.)

1. load local map into adobe.

2. change the color of local map with color saturation effects/tool

3. load the world map in a lower layer.

4. Overlay the local map and enlarge/shrink to correct size.

5. apply proper transparency.

6. screenshot or simplify layers to oen regular image and save as a finished, cropped JPEG.

7. upload and add.

Don't get me wrong, I know about all of these tools and effects, but only vaguely/generally and in theory. I can't do all of this. My sis might be able to. There's already 11.8+k pages on the FO wiki, I'm not certain one more uploaded image on each "Enclosed-Surface-Area" page would cause trouble.

3) I think this is it... I'm tired myself right now, I hope *I* didn't miss anything. (If you know how to fix the BS glitch and it's easy to explain or there's an easy to find link to the glitch-fix, feel free to say so). I'm pretty sure I've already been through all of the Add-On's related bugs, glitches, and exploit pages... Thanks for any and all help and feedback so far. Blaze55555 15:02, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I did it... I pulled the trigger... I made the page, but I think it will need major editing and sprucing up. I'd hope you could read it and tell me what you think? and thanks for all the help so far. You've been a great help to a self-admitting n00b. Thanks Blaze55555 12:40, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
I just realized... I forgot to put all info in... I kept going back and forth between the main page and your talk page where I originally put most of the info already thought of, but I forgot to cross examine it with the info and edits that you suggested... I think most are in compliance, though... Mainly your ideas for editing the main Fallout 3 Merchant overview page... is what is left out... DX

The Project

considering details going back and forth are getting less and less, I figured I'd start a new subject to respond under that is far shorter. (That way when you're taken to any new messages, you don't have to scroll for days to read my new messages which should be shorter.)

Thanks a lot, it looks nice. Thanks for all help so far, too. I guess I didn't get the guidelines part. The reformatting seems perfect. I personally couldn't have done it any better... other than (myself) leaving less grammatical oddities on the page DX

But the point is, new response line, Thank You, and let's hope this project really gets rollin' Blaze55555 23:25, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, the project seems to have died before it started... I think It needs contributors... starting names to get the inertia rolling, could you put your name on it? It did seem like you intended on being part of the project... Thank you Blaze55555 21:58, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Porter, Porter!

Err, can I trouble you a bit? Could you please port your fix for the Games template from the Vault to the C&C Wiki? I'm afraid I'd break something :( http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 17:29, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

You're awesome. Keep on rocking! http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/08/Personal_Sig_Image.gif Tagaziel (call!) 23:37, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sound files

Hey Porter,

Is there a special file format on the wiki that allows you to play sound-only clips straight from articles? -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 21:14, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! And I won't have to worry about copyright issues, as I only intend to upload some dialogue samples from the various talking heads (Fallout / Fallout 2). This should spur some interest in articles like Set, considering his style of voice ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 02:46, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
So, you don't mind if I upload a few test files? Do I even have to ask permission? ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 03:08, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) And would it be possible to remove the green "button" background from the player, and make it whiteish-gray like on Wikipedia?
And yes, changing image to file is appropriately fitting ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 15:03, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
One last thing: the player also doesn't scale properly when condensed into a fixed space... see here. -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 15:07, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

(<--) The button for the player fits fine when placed into a fixed width; I'm talking about the actual player, which requires playing the file to see. Tell me if it doesn't overlap then, and I'll know I'm crazy ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 21:07, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

I take it this is chrome you are bothing seeing it in? ☣Avatar☣ 09:13, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
No, I use Firefox 3.6.13 on both of my computers. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:15, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Interesting - now it works properly on my notebook as well. Appears to be totally random. -- Porter21 (talk) 09:20, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Ahhh ok, cus for me it is doing it in Chrome, but not in FF. For some strange reason in Chrome it displays it inside <audio> element and in FF it displays it in a <video> element. Now if I use Firebug in FF and change it to <audio> the same problem occurs, and vice-versa in chrome changing to <video> fixes it. Seems there is no styling for <audio> and god knows why they are using different elements for different browsers 0.o ☣Avatar☣ 09:27, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Now it is fine for me as well, chalk another one up to Wikia experimenting hihi. ☣Avatar☣ 09:28, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


There seems to be a issue with {{ID}} and {{DLC ID}}, example 00123456. ☣Avatar☣ 04:44, February 3, 2011 (UTC) EDIT. just in case it fixes it self before you read this message and so I don't look like a idiot, this is what is currently showing; 00{{#pad:123456|6|0|left}}

Picture Dumper truck

I saw you removed the picture on the dumper truck page (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dumper_truck). Did you remove it entirely from the database? (can't find it) I'd like to know why. What was wrong about it? I made it myself, ingame...why are you removing my work, without consulting me? Valerius83 18:31, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Picture Dumper truck follow-up

Ok, thanx. fixed it. BTW: be bold, change it? that's rude! Valerius83 19:06, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

What is all this?

Thats alright, I was kinda tired when I did it all and only noticed why you actually rolled it back after posting on Nittys page, while I was trying to figure out what on earth he was ranting about hihi. ☣Avatar☣ 19:51, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox location

I got a question for you, recently I added a ruins icon to Template:Infobox location. Now for every location that I change the type to ruins, it shows on the recent Wiki feed that I have added a image, yet for the rest of the icons it does not and I cant figure out for the life of me why. ☣Avatar☣ 20:32, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhh ok, I figured I had messed it up and done something wrong, for the life of me I couldn't figure out why. ☣Avatar☣ 20:43, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


You remember that idea I had a while back about scripting off the infobox type to link to the article layout guide. There was also the idea you had about removing the section tab and using script to insert text at the users end. Well I was figuring if you do go ahead and implement it, a additional item you may want to consider is combining those 2 ideas with {{Rwwr}}, as this will save a hell of a lot of reverts on the weapons pages. ☣Avatar☣ 21:28, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey i just started my own wiki here on wikia and since The Vault looks so great i was hoping you could tell me how to get an icon to appear in the address bar like you guys have Roby1 23:09, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


Hi Porter21,

I saw you moved my signature from a template page to a page related to my userpage. I'm sorry I made it as a template: signatures are always templates on other wikis I edit, so I thought it would have been the same here.

18:42, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


Hey Porter,

If I were to "import" (copy / steal / plagiarize. :P) the latest version of MediaWiki:Common.css from the Vault into Vault-Tec Labs, what specific templates would I also have to "import" to ensure all the correct changes will be applied?

Could you provide a list of templates that I would need to update?

Thanks in advance :) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 01:56, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much :) Gratzi! Merci beaucoup! Gracias! You get the point... ;) -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 22:28, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


The block was made by Porter21.
	Reason given: Insulting other editors
	Start of block: 10:10, February 12, 2011
	Expiry of block: 10:10, February 15, 2011
	Intended blockee:
	Block ID: #9428
	Current IP address:

i beleive u blocked my ip address do to a comment i made to Ghostavatar, i made that comment because he has been taking my images i upload and changing them a bit and calling them his own. it just grinds my gears when people do that, but i do honest edits and would like to be unblock to continue to serve this wikia to its greater intrests. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohnoitsthecopz (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

thats why i was mad because the history didnt show my name but still had my picture with a different name. but thanks i wont do it again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohnoitsthecopz (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Fallout Tactics characters project

Just want to thank you for reviewing the project. :) veryblackravenTalk 13:29, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help so far

Uhm... I recently did a fairly large edit on the Fallout 3 exploits page. I'm not sure if or how you can tell exactly what I changed, but it was just a bunch of orderless stories.

  • A lot had categories and etc. in common, so I mainly rearranged them in order, and made a few main topics and titles to put each individual topic under. I tried to keep away from adding any new exploits I knew about (except for the original one I planned on adding... I was putting it in Weight but after reading the Clean-Up stub, I decided to move most of it that I thought went against the stub to the exploit page as it can be considered an exploit, and left the rest as a new category).
  • Also, should the Add-On exploits be there? If there was one already, I left it; I only added one in, but just decided to make it a quick excerpt which linked to the exploit page of the Add-On it was related to.
  • I added one Exploit and made the Traveling Category to put it under.
  • In reference to that, tell me I didn't end the world or do anything atrocious when I also edited Weight. I added the last, new header/category and the related section/paragraph. It was something I realized while playing.
  • Last, considering you can pick up bodies, should Grab be changed due to the fact that a body is a temporary container? (Last large paragraph above where the Notes section starts. It says containers cannot be picked up)
Someone needs to edit Weight, it seems like a relatively easy and quick project compared to the changes some other pages need.


Please protect this page: Fallout 4: It's getting mass speculation and edit warring this month. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog.jpg 21:47, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Baja Rangers Article

I'd really like my contribution to remain, and be added too. It seems an anonymous users believes the Baja Rangers are exactly the same as the Veteran Rangers just because they use the same equipment and similar characters reference them, but I believe the 'Baja Rangers' to be a distinguished group within the Veteran Rangers devision -- much like the 'Misfits' are special group within the NCR Soldier devision.

Please contact me with your input.


Apologies, will do. --Flower of Pock-Lips 14:31, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Keys / backlog deletion files

Hi Porter, I like what you're doing for the key pages. Having individual pages for keys was a bit exaggerated. Now people have all info about a key listed on a nice overview page.

About the nominated for deletions files, remember your suggestion about letting a bot delete those files? The progress is slow and of the few thousand files I nominated the last few months I've seen about 5 return to me. They are cluttering the categories now and I'm having trouble spotting which ones I marked and which not.

I know they have all been replaced by a better version because myself or Avatar did that. So my suggestion is just to delete them by bot. The admins wouldn't mind I think. Jspoelstra 14:42, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


Thank you Porter. :3 Nitty Tok. 15:35, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Chumlee deleted?

Hi, sorry, im' very new and could i please ask what it was deleted for? was it something actually real to fallout or what? again, sorry to bother.. i just am curious-- 17:48, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

It was nothing but gibberish. -- Porter21 (talk) 22:11, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


Its not really about maintenance issues from the way I look at it, hell I probably do more of that than most of the Admins. Its more dealing with anons and there abusive nature towards Admins (well thats just one thing). I do actually find that once they realise I am not a Admin, they are more open to debate and discussion, instead of a aggressive/defensive stance and lack of reasoning when speaking to a authority figure. Perfect example would be taking down videos in violation of policy, I see admin pages get slammed by the users all the time. Yet when I do it which is just as often as the admins, very rarely do I even here a word about it. And when I do they are more open to talk, just like the recently with the suggestion on the forums to the video policy change. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 21:15, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Chart JS

Yeah I found it backtracking the chart template, but unfortunately there is no documentation for the script. So I have no idea how it actually works or if it is any good, all I have to go on is the info in the header. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 21:15, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ah found it, yeah like you I figured it would a new tab located across the top. But after checking the script I actually found it located down the left under toolbox. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 23:28, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
Chart js.jpg
Well this is what it looks like, dont think it will be much use for creating charts as all it does is remove the separators and the text down to the bottom, so there will still be some requirements to understand how charts works. But it will be very useful for editing them. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 00:00, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
Seems to be working perfectly fine =D User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 20:34, February 28, 2011 (UTC)


I am finding a lot of "fallout-table sortable" table have not been converted to va-table, was this parameter included in the last bot run. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 04:03, February 28, 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I know you're away but I don't know if anyone else can deal with the issue. It seems that on some pages (e.g. Seattle and Texas Commonwealth) the {{Games}} template don't show up. Ctrl+Shift+R don't help. Most pages work fine though. Tested on Monobook skin, Firefox 3.6.13, AdBlock turned out. veryblackravenTalk 21:04, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the issue is still in place. :( I can't figure out how exactly affected articles are different from unaffected ones. I tried to use a template on my sandbox, but with no success. Then I've copied the whole Fallout 2 article (on which the template worked well) there and now all is fine. veryblackravenTalk 22:04, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
I understand that. :( Just tried to do some troubleshooting. Restarting Firefox (btw, now it is 3.6.15) in safe mode didn't help as well. :( Maybe later I'll be able to provide you with more useful info. veryblackravenTalk 22:20, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

NPC infobox

Do you know what infobox is proper to use for these NPC's. The one on Aaron Kimball looks nice but is missing the alignment. The base template at Template:Infobox character does not include tag skills or derived stats of health and level. I am going to leave this on porter's and goth's pages as well. Let me know what you think. Thanks in advance! I am also aware that you are away I just copied this here as well because you are the guy I look to for template info. Thanks.--Kingclyde 04:33, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Articles

I noticed that during the last bot run, when PorterBot was "standardizing featured article formatting" it had to change the template's formating so it could put the content inside of the featured article template. But whenever there was a link in the caption of the image, then the set of square brackets at the end of the link were recognized as the end of the image, so the part after the brackets was left over in the content of the template.

Here are two examples:

I went through all the featured articles, and I think all of the left over captions should be fixed (only about 30 articles were affected). Just wanted to let you know so a situation like thia might be averted in the future :) --Anon talk 10:33, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Though, it did take me a while to figure out how the featured articles work :) --Anon talk 21:45, March 7, 2011 (UTC)


Hey, i recently made my own wiki and was wondering how the userbox is coded because all i can find is how to use it and i was trying to get an idea from the code. Do you know where i can find it?

I looked at that already but the code doesnt work, it tries to use a template when i edit that template - very confused, please help Roby1 22:15, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
Thats what i've been trying to do. What do i need to go under to do that Roby1 21:51, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Paper notes / holodisks

Hi Porter, I see you're busy with the skill books and -magazines page overhaul. If you should decide to merge the notes and holodisks, I suggest the name Notes and holodisks or Paper notes and holodisks.

Both names should be in the link, I think. Otherwise people will be thinking where's the one or the other.

And maybe you've already noticed it, but next to the separate pages for the cards, I've made an overview page of the 5 casinos and their decks: example. Would be nice if the playing cards get their own link on the overview page. Greets, Jspoelstra 09:46, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • Porter, can you import the location- and quest id's of Dead Money and add them to the cell-id pages? Then they can be added to the infoboxes of the various Dead Money pages. Now I have to look them up in the GECK. Thx.
  • Yes, that's what I meant. And can you add the base id's of the Dead Money quests also?
  • Great! Can you tell me how you did it?

Templates in Dead Money

Say Porter, I'm working on DM quests right now and I've noticed that when defining the first line of the template to Dead Money, so the game parameter (|game=FNVDM) the infobox results in a red link. When defining it with FNV it's orange, and characterized as a New Vegas quest. I'd rather have the Dead Money link, so till now I've used FNVDM.

My question is also for the other Dead Money pages, like weapons, clothing and so on. What needs to be used ? With a Dead Money character the game parameter FNVDM works fine, I believe. Then the infobox-link is orange. Jspoelstra 22:53, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • This post has been answered by GhostAvatar, I think I got it now.

Caravan template icon

Can you create a caravan template icon for the character overview page, Porter? Jspoelstra 23:03, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

  • Wow, that was fast. Where do you get all those pretty icons?

FNV character overview page

I just added a comment to Jspoelstra talk page about a redesign to the table layout, I don't know if you want to check it out and comment, or if it would be better to move it to the forums or article talk page for discussion. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 17:25, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Character overview page

Personally, all those red crosses (it's gonna be a biggg table) hurt my eye. Maybe another, more eyepleasing icon? And it's ok to you if the GECK ID goes? There's probably not much done with it, still I think it's significant enough to stay.

I've done some browsing on the wikimedia page and found the icons I just uploaded. You mean something like these? I like the red one better than the red cross we have now (for the overview page anyway). And I would like to keep baseid, refid and also geckid. If there's no room, then the geckid can go first. I like baseid and certainly refid (I use that one often to transport) to stay.
To be honest, when comparing the icons I just uploaded to the icons that are used now on the wiki, I like the current green checkmark icon and red cross icon better. They have a clearer meaning and will be better understood by the users I think. Just for the overview page all those red crosses are annoying and on that page my uploaded red icon should work out better.
  • I've also uploaded a cross image, maybe you can try out if so see if it's any better on the overview page.

I'm not in favor of that. In my opionion, for voting we need a green checkmark and a red cross, like we have now. I've tried out your suggested icons, and I still like the ones we have now, better. I've done extensive research with all sorts of icons in my sandbox and think the green checkmark we have now and the red cross I uploaded yesterday (so the first table) are the best solution for the overview page (the red cross could perhaps replace the one we have now). They correspond well with each other and the red's not too hard on the eye. Or maybe the sixth table, I like that one second best, but this green checkmark does not stand out as well as current green checkmark in the table. The red cross you gave me a link to is too hard on the eye.

You can take a look at the various options in my sandbox and judge for yourself. Jspoelstra 02:07, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

  • Update: couldn't sleep over it so here's another point of view. Maybe the 2nd table isn't too bad either. The green checkmark stands out very well against the vague round red icon. And it's the green checkmarks what people will be interested in, not the red icons. When using the first or sixth table, like I suggested above, the red crosses still overwhelm the page somewhat (though it's a lot better than with the current red crosses). The only table where that's not the case is the 2nd one. And still people can see it's filled in. I'm not sure what's best yet, what's your opinion of it?
  • I have tried out a lot of options on that character overview page in some sandboxes and changed the actual page to the one I think is best. I used the green and brown checkmark and a straighter, lightened red cross. Hope you like it. Shall we merge the Base game table and the Miscellaneous locations? That's probably even better because the sorting will have even more effect then (all doctors, merchant together etc.) Greets, Jspoelstra 18:15, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Page deletion

why did you delete my page the character is in dead money —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremiah&evan (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

ok ill wait till it comes out

Unused images

Could you take a look at Special:UnusedFiles, there is a few left (only 9 left to deal with, yay) that I don't know if they are still required. Examples would be widget background and the wikia logo. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 17:36, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it has taken me and Jspoelstra a long time to get the unused images sorted =D User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 22:28, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Character overview page

I have merged the tables of the FNV character overview page. I have 3 variants of red crosses now. I have placed the darkest one on the overview page, the lightest and 'in between' one in my sandbox. I think it's either the current one or the in between version. That's because you want to replace the current red cross with the new red cross and I think the top one in my sandbox is too light for the interaction box. What do you say? (I have also given Avatar a post).

  • I have made your suggested icon a companion template and changed the FNV character overview page icons back to yes (+ tooltip) and no in my sandbox. If you overwrite the current yes- and no-icon with the new ones it should change my sandbox to the correct format, so that I can replace the current FNV character overview page with the one in my sandbox. I'd say the icons can be replaced now (I'll leave that up to you). Jspoelstra 17:41, March 22, 2011 (UTC)


hey can i ask a question?Jeremiah&evan 20:48, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

User blog

Porter, what do you want to do with User_blog:Evilgirlfromthewastlandsofmyheart/new_too_new_vegas|this blog? It's a very popular one (I smiled a bit about it myself) but doesn't really go anywhere and is getting a bit out of hand. Should it be deleted? Jspoelstra 18:04, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


Can you check over Centaur (Fallout: New Vegas), after the lengthy course of actions, I don't know if I missed anything. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 15:35, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Opps, thanks for that, now added. User:AvatarUser talk:Avatar 16:13, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Camp Guardian daily log

I noticed you reverted my edit on the FNV holodisks and notes overview page. I just wanted to let you know I wasn't ready yet with editing. By the time you reverted it, I was decapping the word Log Page to Log page on the Camp Guardian daily log page. After that I wanted to do another update on the overview page, this one: [[Camp Guardian daily log#Log page 3|Camp Guardian log page 3]] and so on. This way the viewer knows it's a note from Camp Guardian and it's an immediate link to the note itself. Jspoelstra 12:11, March 24, 2011 (UTC)


He is listed as an NPC on our wiki but is listed as a creature (like other robots) in the GECK. Should we make ol' Festus a creature as well so he is categorized correctly?--Kingclyde 02:26, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I also noticed we have dogs and other robots in this category. What shall I Do?--Kingclyde 02:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


Sorry to bother someone of your stature with a vandal alert, but you're the only one active this early in the morning (where I am, of course). The vandal is this user.

Template error

Porter, I was busy correcting some links to the featured images on the New Vegas portal (the one for today, Red Rock Canyon, was red linked) and found a prefix error on this one. Can you look at it? Jspoelstra 17:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

  • No, I did't see it anywhere but except on the featured article template itself. Thought it would maybe result in errors somewhere, but appearantly it doesn't. Still, best to correct these kind of errors on spotting I feel. JspoelUser Jspoel Vaultboy.png 16:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


That's a long time away. Good luck on what you're going to do the coming 5 weeks then. We'll take good care of the wiki! JspoelJspoel Vault Boy.png 11:03, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Jury rigging in NV templates.

I started a poll here - RASICTalk 22:59, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Honest Hearts

when is honest hearts trailer coming out Jeremiah&evan 01:28, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

so since theres a patch today is honest hearts still coming out today ? and if not when is it? Jeremiah Wilson 21:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I was curious i have seen at many web sites it said it was coming out april 19 is this true?