Talk: GhostAvatar

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I'm no longer fully active on this wiki. You can find me at http://www.falloutwiki.com/User_talk:GhostAvatar.

Merry Christmas

Hey Ghost, Merry Christmas. Don't edit too long anymore today (can also say it to myself). Quite a productive year we had, wouldn't you say? Too bad we're not working together anymore. See you're updating icon images on The Vault, I can't seem to get the real hang of it. Can you explain one more time how you get them so good quality? Jspoel 19:21, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

This is not a circular, ok so maybe it is :p

MESSAGE TO ALL! Merry Christmas, hope you have a great day! If you see this, it means I love you enough to go to the effort of visiting your TP and copy/pasting this - well done :p Loves and stuff! "Even In Death May You Be Triumphant"

Reply that you so wanted

NO! I DID NOT! I haz impregnanted your page with my virtual sperm... sorry. But rape is as rape is :p "Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 16:10, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Exchanging content

Our poll about exchanging content has finished and Kingclyde can give his final verdict now. It looks like it will pass on this wiki. Probably you want to wait till Porter returns and I see Ausir's objecting to some things. Best to reach a general agreement I think. Jspoel 17:16, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Chat ban

I just left the chat, can you unblock me now please?

i just left could you unban me from chat please? --I Am Death 21:24, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Icons

I thinkkk I got it now. I hadn't clicked on all channels. And I just figured out how you and Tag got those ending images. They're in the game files. Looks like you cropped them for better ratio. So pretty soon I'll upload them here too. Jspoel 01:23, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

And if we don't speak before 2012 anymore, a happy new year from Holland! Be careful with the fireworks.

Fallout 3 endings

I've searched the Fallout 3 game files for those ending images, but can't find them. Do you know by any chance where I can find them? Jspoel 23:50, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Patrol rights

Ghost, do you know how these patrol rights work? Seems like moderators don't have them. user:SigmaDelta54 and user:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving just got promoted with the patrol checkmark (along with rollback and chatmod) and they don't have that red exclamation mark to the left of the screen in recent changes. It should be there, shouldn't it? Jspoel 02:10, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Allright, thanks.

The ban

i have the right to know the reasons for which i was banned, so that i can leave it behind myself. if no one can clearly tell me for what words or sentences i was banned, how am i supposed to leave it behind myself? if you were there, then please explain. --SaadSwati 18:31, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

i'm saying power abuse simply because nobody can explain me exactly why i was banned. i don't even know what i said that made me banned in the first place! if there's no explanation as to why i was banned, it means that the ban was unfair. it's the admin's responsibility to inform what people were banned for in the first place, and i'd like to know, not to do the same in the future. --SaadSwati 21:05, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

About the ban

I do not understand why was i banned from the chat, yes, i know i posted binary code multiple times(i don't think 3 or 4 times qualify as a spam though) so i could ask for an unban (the ban time is not known though so you may unban me in 1 or 2 weeks), thanks in advice Raducu22 03:08, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

On the forum topic

I feel that no 3rd party has actually gave their voice on my forum, i.e. not affliated with Scarface (it's just his bunch of (wannabe) admins), which means the community as a whole has not voted. I think you should postpone the ban until someone outside the Scarface group has actually voice their opinion. --SaadSwati 15:47, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Shurrender, pal

Do I sign up for unblock or do I get it as a present? --Shurrender 18:52, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

chat ban

Well I'm back, and I'll wait for the lag to pass before rejoining.

I unbanned him :) -ΣΔ^{Let's talk!} 01:04, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

"Sorted"

What was the issue? κηδεμόνας ^[~μιλώ~] 21:12, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Right... I would never have been able to work that out, so thanks :D κηδεμόνας ^[~μιλώ~] 21:20, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Well, just in time to save the day! I would never have figured that one out. Say, I've been fiddling a bit with the source files from Fallout 1/2 and Van Buren. I am interested in sound files, character (model) images, proto id's an so on. Itachou knows but he's no longer here. Did find access to the Fallout 1/2 proto id's and some Van Buren item/weapon images. Also got a tip from Tagaziel about the Fallout 2 mapper (can't seem to let it see the right path to the source files) and Fallout Utility for Critter Tinkering. That one works. Can you tell me what you know? Jspoel

21:30, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

I remember you adding the Van Buren weapon images, so I thought you were also able to help me on my way with the Fallout 1/2 files. Guess I'll have to browse the NMA site then to see if I can find more. Jspoel

19:40, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Is chat

Brokied again? Goshdarnit "Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 19:24, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Things

have definitely changed since the bulk of the administrative team and bc's left this wiki. It's not that the new leaders aren't doing a good job, but it feels like the traditional practices and elements that built this wiki are disappearing. I feel it surprising that a few admins wanted to delete all evidence of the recent EB/Billy incident. Isn't this pure censure by the trusted leaders of the wiki? A lot more page locked that I would deem extraneous at points has been happening too. I just feel like the "old" wiki managed certain things in a more... standardized fashion. -ΣΔ^{Let's talk!} 18:38, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Couldn't help but notice this during a bored moment of lurking about. I can honestly say nothing has really changed here except a change of leadership and a lack of anything going on while we're waiting for the next Fallout to come out. Not sure what traditional practices are disappearing either. I think the only thing that's been asked to change at all is when you (Sigma) and Jspoel decided to send a message to Clyde about changing our speculation policy. (Which I absolutely disagree on. There's a reason why it's called "speculation".) As for deleting the evidence about EB, no such thing was ever done, even when me and Yessie deleted the forums involved. I merely removed the forum since protecting it wouldn't do any good seeing all of the Admins that were involved, and I copied the comments over to a personal sandbox that could be more easily controlled and out of sight. So no. The evidence was not just destroyed with us acting like nothing ever happened. Also, while we should have thrown up a deletion tag first, as standard procedure states, it is also in the rules here that forums/blogs/sandboxes that are are available to the public eye may be deleted if the content within involves trolling/nude or overly controversial pictures/spam, etc.

^Skål! 12:18, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

To me, that smacks of sweeping it under the rug.

18:27, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry you see it that way, I really am. I wasn't trying to censure anything at all, and that's never been my way. (And neither was Yessie.) The way I see it, removing that forum was the same as if an Anon got onto the forums and started telling everyone that Ethan was dead. If that way the case? This wouldn't even be being disputed right now, seeing as those comments would have been deleted in a heartbeat, and not just by me. It's obvious that he's not dead and I had all of the information stored so everyone would be able to take what they said into account. I guess I just don't see how that could be considered sweeping it under the rug. Nothing was hidden and me and Ci were actively considering throwing up a forum to express our concerns on proper Admin etiquette when handling these situations.

^Skål! 19:32, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

It's good that you've taken the time to explain this, Leon. I think I understand things a little better now. People won't always get along, but we all do what we think is best for the wiki. -ΣΔ^{Let's talk!} 18:17, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

We don't really need a forum on etiquette if people would read the rules for being an admin in our guidelines.--Kingclyde 20:03, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Lag

Hey i had to give your bot a little kick out of the chat because it begun to lag (surprisingly it worked) so just let me or another chat mod know when you want back in.TheNemesisx 11:59, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

I have always respected your opinion and you have helped me greatly when everyone was still active. I closed hi bc poll early because it was set to run for longer than the standard 2 week time frame. The mistrust that has been occurring is indeed due to the split. There really is no way to fix that. If I see people starting problems and I ban them I'm a dictator, if I ignore them I'm not doing my job or playing favoritism. I have as well as the remaining admins have carried on as we had before the split. The only real person I've seen have issues was BillyOcean when he banned the whole chatroom. That was my first real action was stripping him of his chat mod rights. There is a line here that I have to walk. I do not like upsetting things and as far as community stuff is concerned, I feel everything is still done by community consensus. In fact it has been my observation that there has been more community involvement now then before. When I see issues such as the deletion of the forum, I went in chat and talked to the person(s) responsible and discussed the finer points of policy. At this point this wikia is going to tread water until a new Fallout game is released. We have people finalizing projects and a few new ones have popped up, but other than that this wikia article wise will become stagnant. The only reason I requested the bc position is that we needed some form of leadership at the time and J was not interested in becoming one at the time. Him becoming a bc is great as I am not always available as much as I would like and will become a little more scarce once ME3 comes out. I shifted my focus from the Wolfenstein Wikia to this one once I became bc and now may be able to divide my time between the two. I am more than willing to reinstate your bc status as well if you wish. You have already earned it months ago. I've tried my best to be a decent bc and I may have failed in that respect. I'm not sure. Anyways that's my explanation and/or reasoning for what I have done here. Thanks for reading.--Kingclyde 21:47, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki

You're right, I should have never brought your name into that conversation. That was an error of judgment for me and I do apologize. As for what I considered slander, I hope you can understand why I would be so defensive over a comment like that. I'm just looking out for this wiki and its well-being. ^Skål! 01:33, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Chat

Can you come into chat? Jspoel 16:18, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Problem

Yes, I do have a problem. I'd appreciate it if you voiced your concern for the wiki in a less abrasive manner. We don't need your constant criticism about how you feel the Wiki has gone downhill since the split, and your constant criticism of the administrative team when we're only trying to help. You're entitled to your opinion, as anyone else here is, but I'd appreciate it if you did it in a less disrespectful manner. After all, you do consider yourself an inactive administrator, so why you keep returning to cause conflicts on forum pages that are intended to help the community is beyond me. 02:24, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

My tolerance is running thin old friend

A copy from the discussion page.

Here is the deal. This page is closed as the discussion is moved so placing derogatory comments where most users cannot respond is disappointing. Second, all rules and regulations are brought up by one or two people and then put to the community so "calls for just implementing rules as certain people see fit" rings hollow."Certain people are just trying to subvert the whole process to get things the way they want it, pushing throw change at any cost, it is like a load of mini dictators running the insane asylum" is a blatant lie as this is being decided by the community and is a direct insult to myself and other users. I understand that everyone has the right to an opinion but to come on here and blatantly insult me and/or other users is a violation of standard wikia protocol. In other words, the general don't be a dick guide applies here. I've been here a long time and you of all people know how I operate and how things have operated in the past. I nor other admins randomly add rules and regulations as we see fit, which is what you are accusing us of doing. This policy change is up for community consideration which is right here! "Those who do not have the best interest tend to shy away from the light and use the shadows, this is how it is feeling to me at present and I am sadly disappoint in a lot of people at the moment." - what the hell does this mean? I am sadly disappointed with your conduct in coming here and stirring up the community with these empty accusations and blatant insults. I have it bouncing around in my head to ban you with good reason but I respect you too much to just "drop the ban hammer." I want an honest and concise reason as to why you have decided to come here and make accusations and hurl insults around like its nobody's business.--Kingclyde 06:21, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

For what its worth Ghost, I'm beginning to agree with you. The way the processes and procedures are being played with fast and loose is now greatly concerning me, especially with all the extra talk about doing it again just as its agreed that we're going to do it the right way. Agent c 15:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

(←) This is not really helping things, a chatmoderator opposing a bureaucrat. Can't we all just drop this matter now and turn over a new leaf? A new thread has been started, everything by the book. So my request for you Avatar is now, please leave this matter for what it is and move on. I want peace. Jspoel 15:43, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Except for Scar's changes to the Administration requirements, this is the first thing we've even considered changing since the split. And I really don't want to hear anything when the old Administration here did plenty of things without community consensus (Such as when Porter disabled the template for a YT extension variant or when the pure human category was taken out without a proper vote even when there was a basic debate forum about it. Or my favorite, when Tag brought up a debate over Totalitarian symbols and it was shot down by one Admin and it was never brought in for a vote even though it was a legitimate and serious concern that involved the community, not the Administration team.) While this policy change did go by a tad fast, we are not doing anything loose and we've even reset the vote when it was found out that a couple policies weren't taken into account. Just because we're Admins doesn't mean we're infallible and we have memorized the policies 100%. We make mistakes, that doesn't mean we're abusing our posts just to push something out.

^Skål! 15:46, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

And before anybody says anything, I'm not taking the logo and name change into account since that was a forced change upon us. ^Skål! 15:53, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, I'm not opposing anyone - I am opposing wilful ignorance of procedures an policies, key word there is wilful. Leon, The facts are for this change there was an attempt to place different vote values, and a shorter voting process than policies require, and as soon as the vote is closed for these breaches in policies, talk happens straight away on creating a new vote with one of these problems re-included, or by simply changing the rules by fiat. Maybe Ghost did go a little too far in the wording he's used, but I think the concerns here are valid ones, and have been expressed by other users. I want peace too, lets achieve it by following the procedures and policies that we've agreed on. Agent c 16:03, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see that as a legitimate concern anymore now that we've taken those policies into consideration and we have a now correct voting process in place. As for J's comment, saying half-tempted is in no way saying that he was actually going to change the rules. He was just expressing his frustration over the ridiculous nature of the debates that have taken place, and he even mentioned that he would never change the rules by himself until at least consulting our other 'crat, KingClyde. I think you're looking a little too far into that comment. ;) Especially with Jspoel's history of doing just about everything by the book.

^Skål! 16:10, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe I have, but my concern is to make sure that things are done right. I'm going to leave the discussion here. Agent c 16:12, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

You have a good cause to keep stability and professionalism in place, C. Don't mean to shoot down your ideas, I'm just a tad weary now that the entirety of the Administration team has been brought into question along with the integrity of this wiki as a whole. I think this whole prospect has just been taken too seriously and now it's having adverse negative effects.

^Skål! 16:15, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

You know C, I think you're about the only one with any clarity of mind to actually understand the real issue raised. Instead of imbuing the topic with personal strife and making the discussion about them, instead of the issue (I pretty much includes myself in that statement at this point, since I have gotten my back up because of the debate. Just in-case anyone is reading this and thinking that it is an insult direct towards them, it is a general statement of observation).

14:19, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I want to thank you for the explanation for what was written. You do have valid points that need to be dealt with and I will be dealing with them shortly. With comments made by a variety of people here and there I am myself getting close to leaving this wikia. It seems to be a popularity contest and I am sitting at the nerd table. I am in the process of making a small tutorial of some sorts for the new admins. I'm trying not to let this slip out of control but we need to stop all of this name calling and chest puffing. I know it's not just you but for now let's all stop. My personal email is clydej1975@gmail.com. Now you and J have my email. Let's work together to get things fixed. Thanks.--Kingclyde 19:41, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oh really?

Removed your own block and then blocked me in retaliation. Good luck digging yourself out of that hole you just dug yourself. ^Skål! 18:00, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hello

I just wanted to drop by to let you know that you don't have to worry about me butting into these conversations anymore. I've stated my thoughts, as have you, and now I admit that I shouldn't have dragged this out the way I have. I took quite a few things you said as personally and that's why I've dogged your comments the way I have lately. I still stick by most of my opinions and I still don't agree with a lot which you have stated, (A couple of my points have been fairly countered and I recede from those.) but I understand now that my words are just having a negative impact on this wiki and I do not want this to continue the way it is. I'll still be around to give my opinion if it's needed, but until then I'll just sit this one out and let you talk this over with Clyde and Jspoel. ^Skål! 05:16, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Chat log

Thanks for that. I have read it and will stick to my decision. Another thing, I'm trying the Van Buren console commands to get to the maps listed on Van Buren console commands. But the console commands screen only opens in the intro screen and trying to get to the maps doesn't work. Once I'm in-game I can't open the cc screen anymore. Any tips? Jspoel 22:50, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Piracy

Thanks a lot GAV! Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 09:01, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yup

Yes, I did (well, just now I did). I did just about the same edits. Slightly different, but the effect was the same. It took me a few tries until I figured out that extra row diff was what was making it do that. Funny thing is, it looked just fine on IE and I could swear I never noticed it on Firefox. I checked all the other big tables like that to make sure none of the others with large rowspans were formatted that way, and they're all fine. The Gunny 21:03, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

The Bots are Back in Town

Hi Ghost. You know that ol' Bot you leave lying around in chat? You don't suppose you could fire it up again and get it to work on a project, do you?
There's a user who needs to add a projectbox template to every Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 page. It's for a project designed to add a quote to every character page, location page etc. If you don't mind, it would be really helpful if your bot can add said projectbox template for us. If you can't or don't want to, I'll just ask Porter.

EDIT: Specific pages as follows:

05:40, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Projectbox.

Hello, GAV! I heard from Guardian that you're helping us with the projectbox for the Fallout 1/2 quotations project. Thank you, mate! The details are in Yessie's post just above. So those are specifically the articles that should receive the box: characters, quests, locations and factions from FO1 and FO2. Thank you for the help! Cheers,

--Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 20:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Great stuff, GAV! Thank you a lot! Now it's way more organised for all of us, and people who visit the pages and decide to join the project. I don't know if this is possible (I'm a new user), but I'll check with Agent c if you can get a medal when the project is over. If so, I'll surely grant you one.
Thanks again!

--Crimson Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 23:46, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mhm...

I understand that there is a moderating force but I've already opted not to edit anything on the Fallout Wiki since everyone is being a Nazi about it. So, now, I don't see why I can't erase the comments on my own talk page. Isn't that a bit much? It's MY page, linked to MY profile- why should any one have any say in it but myself when it comes to content removal? Sure, if I posted something on it and it was inappropriate, I would understand- but it's simply unfair to have dictators stick their grimy fingers in my space just because they know they can.

CynestSadista 07:05, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

FO and FO2 Quotations project

Hey Ghost! I believe your bot is adding tags for this project, and some of them have been erroneously inserted into articles blatantly outside the scope of the project. Such as this one. I've also encountered quite a few more. Just thought I'd bring this to your attention, thanks. -SigmaDelta54^(Talk) 14:07, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

I just went through all of the bots edits and removed 30 of the incorrectly tagged articles. It's no big deal, but perhaps the parameters were wrong or something. The New California Republic and Gun Runners categories may have done this. -SigmaDelta54^(Talk) 16:27, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Real world images category

Can I ask you for a favor? Can you replace all {{image}} templates with {{image-RW}} in Category:Real world stubs with your bot? It will tidy the image category up quite a bit. Jspoel 17:19, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

From M onwards the image template will already be replaced by image-rw. So those pages can be skipped. Jspoel

17:23, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

In fact, only pages starting with C till L have an image template needing to be replaced with image-rw. Jspoel

17:43, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Notable loot

Hey Ghost. Thanks for that, I actually didn't realise that existed ;P I guess those microfusion and energy cells could count as notable, not exceptional, but significant enough. -SigmaDelta54 (Talk) 00:41, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Confirmation of Self

Hey, Ghost. I saw your message on my new talk page over on the Vault. I'd love it if you could merge my accounts, but I really would prefer to keep my new username (DynamicArchetype) if at all possible. Thanks in advance for your help.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Axelskox (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

D'oh! I knew I was forgetting something. Eheh...sorry. ~Axelskox

02:03, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Project box request

Hey Gav, I've started a sequel project to the Fo1 and 2 quotes project and made it for NV and Fo3. Could I trouble you to add

Fallout 3 and New Vegas quotations project

This article is within the scope of the Fallout 3 and New Vegas quotations project. This project is dedicated to adding quotations to every Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas page currently lacking one.. For participation, please check the project page.

to every character/location/quest/faction article in the Fo3 namespace, the NV namespace, and all of their respective DLCs? It'd be much appreciated and would really help with the progress. Thanks a bunch! -- Bacon-Man ^{Talk to me goose!} 03:42, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks! -- Bacon-Man ^{Talk to me goose!} 23:07, April 17, 2012 (UTC)