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Ci

Hah! :D Yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere and I found myself preferring to call him Ci instead. Guess I'll have to come up with something else now that you're officially back! Dragon Skål! 14:26, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'm surprised to be honest. I've always been confident about my beliefs and skills, but I've generally found that people hate my guts on sites like these. I guess I finally found a wiki that accepts me! :') It's really good to have you back, btw. I have to admit it's really sucked not seeing so many familiar faces floating around anymore. That and we're losing more people everyday. (That Kotaku article didn't help either. It essentially made Ausir a martyr and numerous people commented on there about changing their bookmarks over.) Dragon Skål! 14:35, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly agree... Ausir has been treated with great disrespect and the Wikia staff have shown the verisimilitude in their supposed reasons for a global ban. It's good that they're getting so much traffic though, they deserve it and they have a hard road ahead of them. I was just merely pointing out that we're all the sudden getting the short-end of the stick and now we're going to have to start fighting to keep our viewers/editors. Dragon Skål! 14:47, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
I understand your position here at Nukapedia and at The Vault. ;) We don't mind sharing! How has everything been going over there though? Dragon Skål! 15:03, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

He's back

Hold your horses. I need to do some prioritizing today. The logo issue ranks first. I'm getting to your come-back now... Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:30, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't seen you around here anymore since the split, Guardian. I think you can understand my reservations about the request. Spend some time here and it will be fine again soon enough. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
I don't really like the way you said I was his 'apprentice', that makes me sound like a pet project or something.--Bunny2Bubble 18:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Apprentice

After I just read that, I felt like crying:P I guess it was kind of hasty for me to denounce that, I love Jspoel as an editor, he has helped me beyond what I think I know, and does the same for a lot of people. I guess if that makes me his apprentice, so be it. I guess what made me mad is how it sounded a little like "Oh you don't really like me, but you do your 'apprentices'." See what I mean?--Bunny2Bubble 18:58, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you really made me think with that last one. There are only a couple on here that I respect, and you're one of them.

Re:

Hi, I saw your post on my talk page. I'm glad you're willing to entirely reconsider your vote, and as you may know, I'm definitely going to strive to improve my communication abilities. You're not the only one who has had that to say about myself, and it will certainly be #1 on my agenda regardless whether this is passed or not. I'm also happy to see that you're looking at things objectively as we have agreed to move on from the past. N.B. I do indeed study Latin, if you care, and I'm sure I'll have a chance to prove it in the future.

Regards, Danny -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:46, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, Guardian. I won't let you down whether this passes or not, but I really hope it does. And you're applying too eh, you'll have absolutely no opposition, I wish it were the same for me. Good luck in the future, looking forward to workin' with you. -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:55, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
Once again, it's really appreciated. But what's behind this relatively sudden change of heart? I believe you were the first to put up No on the application? This could be the deus ex machina for me ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 22:17, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm certainly glad you had that "long thought process"! Also, I've never been afraid to ask more experienced users questions. My master can testify to that. And what was that "trap" in the Latin "test"? I'm interested in either improving my Latin grammar or understanding what you mean. -ΣΔLet's talk! 02:04, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
P.S. About the Forums/Fora thing. Forum is a 2nd declension neuter noun, therefore the nominative plural should be "Fora", I know that. However, it may be unnecessarily confusing to some and I think the more pragmatic solution is "Forums". Many people still use Fora though and I have no problem whatsoever. Just thought I'd explain ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 02:23, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Ah yes, we are indeed starting anew. But I still think it's an interesting topic! But I do think the Veni, Vidi, Vici pronunciation was sufficient proof eh ;) Take care! -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:31, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, I didn't know that. But my spelling of the pronunciation was from my memory, so I'm sure it's not identical. Veni is the 3rd pp of Venio, venire (4th conj) vidi is the 3rd pp of video, videre (2nd conj) and vici the 3rd pp of Vinco, vincere (3rd). Either I really know Latin or I did a hell lotta Google'ling to get that. Anyhow, it's been a pleasure. -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:52, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sig

Jees Guardian, you're making me feel terrible, I loved that signature, just felt like changing it:P--Bunny2Bubble 01:11, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Your return

Try seeing it from my point of view. Everyone's leaving. Just me and Scarface staying here. You chose for The Vault and now you can't expect me to welcome you with open arms after that. You need to prove yourself here again. At least, that's how I see it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:58, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

SNM

Have you looked at it yet? So far I think it's turning out pretty good. Also, I remember we used to have a YT extension that would allow the automatic playing of music from YT. Do you know anything about that and how we might get it reinstated here? Here's an example if you need one. [1] Dragon Skål! 19:07, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

S&M any day. ;D I added the appropriate template... here. It recognizes the template since it no longer shows up as a red-link, yet it only appears as a blank spot. Any ideas why? (You can see an example by going into edit mode on my profile page.) Yeah, I understand why such an extension would have opposition. I want to try it once though and see what kind of response it gets. Not like I'm going to play random music anyways. Maybe something like the Rad Pack music. Dragon Skål! 19:28, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

"Free time"

Well, I think I may give you some advice. You could check the projects, but what concers Jspoel and me is the number of wanted pages. Do you think you might reduce the number? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:44, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

All right then. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:51, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Reducing the number of wanted pages is good. Also, you can look at pages that are Fallout: New Vegas stubs or need cleanup, are missing data, sections and you can join a project (best pick an FNV one). I want to see you editing again. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:06, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

The Outcast Collection Agent

Hey Ci! (I'm back!) I saw your note on this page and I went ahead a revised/rewrote it a bit. I also felt it was very strategic and subjective in parts. I hope you like the revised edition better. -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:04, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that comment, it really looks like I need to be more considerate =/ See my response on that blog. -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:29, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

You're too kind. :D Only problem is that it seems a little big so it's currently overlapping at the right side of the screen. Make it a little smaller and I'll be happy to use it. Also, I'll take your advice and make a couple changes in a little while! Dragon Skål! 22:44, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and you spelled strategic wrong. :P Dragon Skål! 23:11, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
It's nice to see such voluntary support. (It's only too bad there's not really that many people around at the moment to truly appreciate it.) I'll put it up on SNM in just a moment! Dragon Skål! 20:13, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

For your vote, it is appreciated! I shall rule chat with an iron fi... um, with grace and fairness! Thanks again for the faith in me, I shall do my best to make sure you didn't make the wrong choice Ci! Loves <3 User talk:Miss"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 11:14, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah well, least you got a thankyou... bitch :p <3 User talk:Miss"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 19:16, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

I WUV YOU AND I WILL HAZ PICTURE UP AS SOON AS I CAN PRINT IT OUT, I WILL EVEN DRAW YOU SOMETHING IN A MIN <3 User talk:Miss"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 22:38, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

SNM wants you!

Would you be interested in being brought into SNM as a second party influence? Here's some ideas that I might be looking for:

  • A text based Fallout adventure.
  • The page of the week.
  • Content manager - Just someone who helps me find new ideas for every weeks new edition.
  • Maybe something like a weekly/monthly video contributer. Like this.

And of course I'm open for more ideas! I'm just looking to expand and to involve as many people as possible. Dragon Skål! 02:13, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Happy to hear this would be something fun for you then. ^^ Hmm. What do you think you would like to do and be good at? Give me a rough idea and I'll try and work out a role for you if you can't think of one. Dragon Skål! 19:28, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Bon Vivant suite

I read it and I added the cellname and refid. I thought you would have checked it and seen I changed it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:47, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thought you would take the initiative. Looks your post to me was your 3000th edit. Congrats. I'll try to make my 75,000th edit on the day I have made edits 365 days in a row. 8650 edits in 80 days. Is possible. Would make for a nice new milestone image in my infobox. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:04, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
Make that 8550 edits.
Aye.
The best way to get me on your side, is to become edit active. Joining that project was a good start. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:35, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Congrats

Congratulations on becoming the new administrator! MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 19:53, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

I knew you could do it. Too bad that Itachou wasn't still around to vote... :( --Kastera (talk) 20:13, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
Also my congratulations. May you use the new earned powers well. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:13, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, Ci, it's about time ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:22, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! And that's good to know. -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:37, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Marked men

So with the marked men, will we need to remove them from the ghoul category. I could go through them now remove them if you'd like? The Australian Kiwi 21:34, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Right Iv'e taken off the ghoul category on the 4 unique marked men. Are we taking them off Royez and Magnus. Will the marked men page also need to be rewritten? The Australian Kiwi 22:16, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Just because I saw this, no. Royez and Magnus are ghouls, not marked men. Marked men are only unique to the Divide.--Bunny2Bubble 22:18, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Ask Marcus

People are allowed edit the page to post questions. Anything other than that is an issue. But if it's just a question then yes, I have no problem with that. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 21:42, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Admin forum

What exactly do you have in mind then? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:18, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

If I may say something here, I really like that idea! Sometimes the leaders of this wiki just need their own space to discuss things, and this would really facilitate that. Also, I suppose you do one that only allows experienced editors too? -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:30, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, good point. I like the technical work you're taking on. After losing Porter and Ghost we need someone to do that stuff! -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:37, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
I don't know. If we want to discuss things admins only we could protect just the forum page and say it's just for admins. And I haven't had seen many occassions in my admin time I felt that was necessary. Maybe once, at the time of the split. Only thing that would be different on an admin templated forum thread is if normal users aren't able to even browse it. And I'm not sure if that's such a good idea in the spirit of wiki and community transparancy. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:45, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Still not convinced. Ask around with other admins and Kingclyde to hear what they think. And who is the 'forum creater'? You or someone else?
About the map marker image. On Tenleytown/Friendship Station you will see an Upload button in the map marker image section of the infobox. The color around it is white, That needs to be changed to light yellow, the main color of the infobox. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:42, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox color

You seem to have gained some knowledge of CSS programming. Are you able to change the map marker image infobox color from white to light yellow? It can be seen when there's no map marker image, like on Tenleytown/Friendship Station. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:55, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Just a reminder!

Was updating my SNM logos and I remembered you saying you might be interested in contributing to SNM. Let me know if you had any ideas and we'll see about squeezing it in for when I release the next edition this Sunday! Dragon Skål! 18:23, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

What would you be good at? :D Dragon Skål! 19:37, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. I'm still looking for something like a text based Fallout adventure where you choose the actions and each action has their consequences. I'm also currently looking for an SNM crier and someone to maybe start a fan-made Fallout video series. Just let me know if you're interested in those. If not, I'll see about thinking of some new ideas. Dragon Skål! 19:43, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Crier would just go under their preferences to have it where you get an e-mail for every new person that creates an account here. As a crier, you would just send them a welcome message with the link to SNM and a little motivation for why they should check it out. I guess an example of what I mean by a Fallout text based adventure would be maybe a mercenary off looking for fame and fortune. Progress the story by presenting multiple choices for the reader to choose on that may result in getting the mercenary killed/kidnapped, etc. Dragon Skål! 20:17, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Happy to have you on-board then! I'll be looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :) Dragon Skål! 20:40, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Vandal

You're absolutely right. I want to make the admins' work here as easy as possible in any way. I noticed the regular [[User:_______]] notation didn't work. Thanks for pointing that out, it's really a big help. -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:19, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

SaintPain

That's actually why I didn't ban the Anon. ;) I had a strong suspicion it was Saint himself and I was going to keep an eye on him just in can case he did anything else. Dragon Skål! 22:59, February 2, 2012 (UTC)\

As I told Sigma, I just protected Saint's user page against Anons and new users. That should be enough incentive for him to realize he's not logged in still if it really is him. :P Dragon Skål! 23:06, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
Do you really think I should ban that Anon? Haven't seen him do anything else, but I suppose you would know better than me what should be done under these circumstances. Dragon Skål! 23:20, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Adminship request

Yesh, things didn't work out the way we wanted, but I guess being a patroller is promotion. Not what I wanted, but I don't comply. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 21:36, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant. In any case, I won't throw the idea for being an admin, it is just not the right time. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 22:00, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

hmm

I guess you can just put it in your sandbox and send it to me. Dragon Skål! 23:40, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Perfect! I really like your style. Just give me a little bio like the other patrons have and I'll add it in along with the link. Dragon Skål! 00:53, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking maybe portraying your patron character as a fortune teller or something along those lines. Let me know what you think. Dragon Skål! 00:54, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry. :( Don't mean to overwork you or anything. If it's more convenient for you at the time, I can come up with a placeholder bio if you would like and then you can make changes where you see fit. Dragon Skål! 00:58, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
True enough. :P Dragon Skål! 01:00, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there Guardian. I'd be happy to help with a logo. A few questions first:

  • Are you looking for a banner that will stretch across the width of the page, or do you want more of a square icon?
  • Do you have any images you could point to as examples, to put us on the same page?
  • Would the text on the logo be "The Hunter", or do you have a different title in mind?

Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 00:19, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome; I'll start on work right away. Looking towards the example images, I'm leaning more towards the first than the second, because the quiet desolation says "Fallout" more to me than the involved collage (not to mention the fact that my skill level may not be adequate for the second one :3). Tell me, what do you think of something along the lines of this image as the background? Also, would the logo be grayscale? Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 00:48, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
IMG 0112
Yeah, I see what you mean. I'll try browsing my photo library for something more barren and less reliant on color. In the event that I can't find a proper landscape there, perhaps I'll look for a New Vegas screenshot of the Mojave Wasteland. Do you think that would work? Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 00:58, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Surely. I will continue combing my photo library. Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:13, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Could this image work? It's a slight bit more mountainous, a decent bit more barren, but I'm not sure it fits the bill, since there's still such a strong foreground. (By the way, you seemed slightly apprehensive in your last comment (unless I'm reading too far into the text). In any case, you never need be apprehensive about making a suggestion; anything that you want to bring the images more in line with your vision, I can do.) Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:30, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Fallout Text Adventure Background 1

Okeydokey, I'll continue the search. I do have some photos of plains, but regrettably, they're the grassy kind, not the sandy kind. Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:37, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

My knowledge of the Texas landscape is also not great, but it's likely I've been thinking too desert-y. I'll post a sample image in a moment. Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:42, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Here are some of the better plains images I have. Unfortunately, they both have blatant obstructions, but if you decide that one is to your liking, I can see just how well Photoshop's Content Aware Fill can work its magic. Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:52, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
IMG 3673
IMG 3738

Awesome! Two final questions before I dig into the serious editing:

  1. Do you want me to also try to remove the large weed in the mid-right foreground, or do you prefer it there?
  2. For the font of the title: any preferences? A particular typeset? Serif? Sans serif? Cursive?


Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 01:58, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Here's a draft image. The fonts need a bit of work, but this will at least give you an idea. Thoughts on how the fonts should change, what their positioning should be like? Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 03:37, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Plains Background PNG1- First Draft

Hey again. Here's the rundown:

  • Unfortunately, the "Lone Star" font can't be italicized. Would you like me to apply a text effect? That might be a decent substitute.
  • I'll remove the "Text Adventure" bit right now
  • Actually, there is a film grain effect right now :(. I'll exaggerate it in the next image.

Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 16:01, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey there, what do you think of this one? Signature Image- PNG1- DocUser Avatar talk 16:47, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Plains Background V5- Film Grain

New Patron

Father Fate would work out pretty well, me thinks. Dragon Skål! 01:06, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

I voted, I voted! :') 7 hours? That's dedication right there! I think it looks great though. Go get some sleep. xD Dragon Skål! 01:38, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
I really hope it gets some good attention also. Ah... I forgot. For some reason my laptop won't allow me to vote on polls here. I vote and hit the confirm button and all it does is reset the page. Let me get on the other comp and I'll put in my vote. Dragon Skål! 01:46, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

SNM

Yeah, well, since Garoux posted his link on my poll, I would have felt... ungreatful. About your story, if you don't like it that is edited, why not locking it? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 15:37, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I asked him about it and he said if I wanted it. See this and this. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 16:45, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Your story

I'm not too much involved with the SNM, I'll leave that up to you (admin) guys and hopefully plenty of users. You've made a good story, a bit difficult to read though, with you using a more advanced sentence structure/build. Might be a little tough on the kids here. General approach is good, with users being able to decide how the story continues. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:58, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

It's a higher level of writing, so you can praise yourself for that. But I feel it's a bit difficult to digest for teenager kids (especially the intro), so to speak, making them lose interest in the story. You can see it in the amount of votes, it's not that high yet. Try to make it more easy to read. I'll keep an eye on your updated story. On another note, any progress on that change of map marker infobox color? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:33, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Ci I noticed your new story blog today. It's quite professionally written I must say, but to the non-native English speakers and younger members of the community it may be harder to comprehend fully. I myself did enjoy it - it's quite a good read! -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:19, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

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