I'm back, and want to see the message pop-up, especially now that Wikia has rethought their compulsory message wall. Link for me.
RE: Concept art
Looking tidy in here now, sweet!
Anyway, I doubt it's an early sketch for the yao guai. If you look at early sketches of the Mirelurk, they look wholly different, but they kept the same name, I don't see why this would be uploaded under something other than yao guai if it were the same creature. In addition, there is already some very early concept art of the yao guai on the yao guai page, which seems very rough but was still marked as just that, a "yao guai", not a "magwai" or anything like that. I'm thinking it might have been some sort of variation of the yao guai, something involving a side quest with a named yao guai that was more powerful than a regular one. I'm not entirely certain. I guess I should see if I could get an official answer to it. -=KAG=-YELL AT ME 19:53, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Can't say I recognize it, no :(
- Well, you do that and I'll gather up everything I find but am uncertain of and send it to Jspoel, see if he can make sense of it. Cheers. -=KAG=-YELL AT ME 20:03, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, well, that explains it. I never liked Rivet City, so I stayed away from there as much as I could. -=KAG=-YELL AT ME 20:09, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
70,000 edits
Pretty good, eh? 57 days left for 5,000 edits. Should be no problem, I think I'll have 75,000 edits even before 365 days in a row. That new infobox image is motivating me. Jspoel 
22:46, February 21, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm at 308 days in a row editing now and I really want that Savior of the Damned badge for 365 days in a row (a year that is). So 57 days to go. Jspoel
22:58, February 21, 2012 (UTC)
Fancy titles
Thought so too. I picked it up some time ago on the WOW wiki and wanted that bureaucrat bar as soon as I became one. You're too late activating it; I've already done it. Click on the links above your post and you'll see what I've done. Added bc's, moderators and patrollers. The rest, admins and chatmods already have a good one. Jspoel 19:04, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, we'll have to wait at least till Wikia clears the cache tomorrow morning. And that username is unacceptable, but when we block unacceptable usernames, we generally give them the possibility to create a new account. But this account is blocked for insulting other editors, so we're in a bit of a predicament. Guess we'll have to remember this one, and in a weeks time change the block to just the username and then allow to create a new account. Jspoel 19:16, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I read that. Shame on him. Jspoel 19:20, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I read that. Shame on him. Jspoel
Stuff
I read the interview. Great stuff! If you need a part of your text adventure to be written or extended upon, drop a message! -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:31, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Page
Page ten-eleven I think. 
Tagaziel (call!) 10:23, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Guardian= Φύλακας. Guardian= Φύλαξ (mostly used in Ancient Greek) Guard= Φρουρός
Talk to me = Μίλησε μου or μίλησε μου
- D :D :D
—Preceding unsigned comment added by ViPeRMiMiS (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
Thank you for your vote!
Hey Guardian, thanks a lot for voting for my moderatorship! Even if it was at the last minute, it still meant a lot, specially when other people I thought were closer didn't bother. I know you've been through similar as well, so I know what it feels. So yeah, let's 'keep a stiff upper lip' as you guys say! ;P Toodles~ Limmiegirl 
Talk! ♪ 21:15, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
I hope i did this right this time! i wanted to post my invite to any.cosplayers who have a camera and a fallout costume , to be in fallout houston as one of the people on a video phone ( like i said its a comunity project for fun ) ,and didnt want to piss anyone off with the invite , if it has noplace on this site noproblem , i just want to make shure first (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fallout-houston/309376855759980 21:25, February 24, 2012 (UTC))
Reply
Hmm... I'm not sure how I reverted that. Must've been an accident, I know we don't change other people's comments. Sorry. See my comment on Clyde's page. I'm not a fan of admin conflicts, that post shows it. I'm not trying to get involved, as you are implying, and as I've said, that revert is unintentional. -ΣΔLet's talk! 07:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
Concept art on The Vault
I noticed you've uploaded quite some AA concept art images to The Vault. I was wondering, are you planning to upload them to this wiki also? Jspoel 16:27, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Allright, I'm pleased to hear that. Having those here too is pretty high on my priority list. Jspoel 00:13, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
- I may still do some of my own. But I saw KristofferAG uploading a lot a few days ago and then I thought, he let others do some work on it this time. Jspoel 00:34, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
- I may still do some of my own. But I saw KristofferAG uploading a lot a few days ago and then I thought, he let others do some work on it this time. Jspoel
User rights inactive admins
I've seen it and I approve! Jspoel 15:53, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- I've split up the concept art categorizing. Location concept art needs to be categorized to Category:Fallout 3 locations concept art, creatures concept art in Category:Fallout 3 creatures concept art and so on. Jspoel 17:00, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- It's not so bad. Typing Fallout 3 concept art or typing Fallout 3 creatures concept art isn't that much extra work. There are so many images, splitting them up gives a much better overview. Jspoel 17:08, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- It's not so bad. Typing Fallout 3 concept art or typing Fallout 3 creatures concept art isn't that much extra work. There are so many images, splitting them up gives a much better overview. Jspoel
Re:Black Beret motto
Nice, "From head to heel". I also think that would be the best way to put it since there is no separate Latin word for "toe". One may use digiti pedis, which wouldn't work too well in the motto. I can get writing again soon, after school things have calmed down a bit. It's good to hear from you. -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:42, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- No doubt you knew all that :) And the 2112 events sounds good, I'll get to that. And that's very interesting, I didn't notice, since we write it 2/21/2012. -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:50, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- What was there not to trust? ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:04, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot Ci, I'll come up with loads of wonderful ideas; just you wait and see. -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:20, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
- What was there not to trust? ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:04, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
That does make ALOT of sence, especialy the scene with liberty prime, and all of his ani-commi slogans DeltaLegio 13:45, February 28, 2012 (UTC) DeltaLegio
Message to all friends!
I'm sure you know that I'm on military deployment, and if not, now you do. Anyways, onto the thing I came here to say. This is easily the most dangerous thing I've ever had to do, and I just wanted to say that if I get labelled KIA/MIA, I just want you to try and forget about me. It sounds stupid, I know, but it's for the better.
Nunquam Nonparati 02:05, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
2112
For some little genre diversity, it's a bit different from the usual. There's also an homage to our very own Jspoel. Enjoy! -ΣΔLet's talk! 15:53, March 3, 2012 (UTC)
T’was the year of our Lord 2112. The date on which Hawk’s enterprising company was founded was December 21st – 2112. Simon had always been fascinated in numbers and enigmas, mysteries. Thus we the Hawks, will celebrate the Palindrome Year, and indulge in vacation and festivities. The celebrating included a month of vacation, where the children needn’t go to classes, and workmen needn’t labour. Instead, the now quite populous Hawk tribe will gather under the moonlight and party through the night. People were to bring food and drink and share it amongst the tribe. Henry Normandy, an old friend of Hawk’s, took the chancellor position after Simon’s unfortunate murder. He called himself Trajan, Chancellor Trajan. And here is the inception of misfortune. Normandy, or Chancellor Trajan, was incredibly popular, as he administered justice in fairness, vied for equality amongst all, and set up a council of bureaucrats known as the Elders. Jeart Splos was the Head Elder. Together, new legislations were formed and kept separate from the ever sacred Lex Aeterna. All seemed to be going well until a member of tribe was murdered. He had been stabbed 21 times. Trajan called together an investigative team, selected from the brightest and most loyal men he had. It was lead by Head Elder Jeart Splos. The case was never closed, and investigation continued. What seemed to be a sporadic murder had turned serious when another victim was found. This time the victim was stabbed 12 times, along with the first victim, making 2112. To add salt upon wounds, the victim was Head Elder Jeart Splos. People began to fear, and panic and paranoia spread through the tribe like the New Plague. One more shocking detail was uncovered – in the mirror, written in Splos’ blood, was “Me capite, si potes” -Latin for catch me if you can. This reinforced the idea that the murderer was one of their own, and added to the tide of fear, infiltrating the Hawks. It is quite amazing what fear and paranoia can do. There was an unrelenting sense of distrust, and intense suspicion throughout the people. Many couldn’t sleep because of their hyper-vigilance. A few weeks later, a third and final victim of the Hawk serial killer had been found. To the horror of many, it was Chancellor Trajan who was found dead in his quarters. He had not been stabbed, but shot in the head. The weapon, a .44 Magnum, had been found next to the body. Dr. Marcius, the head physician, ruled it a suicide. They flipped the mirror in his quarters, and there was a message. It had not been the same message, mind you. It read, “Iustitiae vivo, interficio, morior.” –For justice I live, for justice I kill, for justice I die. That confirmed the peoples’ worst fears, and along with a secret journal, it was explained by an official address by the Elders. Chancellor Trajan, or Henry Normandy, had not in fact been a best friend of Hawk, but rather a rival within the same company. When Simon had turned out to be more successful, Normandy was thrown into an aeon of jealousy. Simon always came up on top, in everything. And when the rest of Normandy’s family perished in the nuclear arson, he was determined to “make things right”. Simon was quite oblivious of Henry’s intense jealousy, dipped in its own longevity. He even entitled the leadership of the tribe to Henry after his death. Normandy shows his gratitude by murdering Simon, so the leadership rights could be bestowed unto him sooner. To provide a good cover, Normandy did what was pleasing to the people, and what was generally considered “right”. The first victim was non-publicly challenging Normandy’s authority, claiming that leadership should be left to a vote of the people. He also insisted that the lack of democracy brought upon the apocalypse. Soon, Normandy felt that the investigation, led by Jeart Splos, was catching onto him. So he went ahead and killed him too. It was insinuated that Normandy had a degree of psychosis, mixed with extreme paranoia that led him to his actions including the taunting message on Splos’ mirror. This ended with his suicide, and he wrote that he felt like the world was closing on him, trapping him, just like how he felt during his time in the Corpus Christi Vault.
And so the big mystery had been solved. It had been one that cost lives, and forever changed the mentality of the Hawk tribe. But Simon had always been a fan of mysteries.”Re:The Lore
Well, I'm glad you like it! And if you're not a fan of one man homages (that guy does have some edits though), you can replace the name with a Roman name of your choice. Also, please check my Latin if you will :) I'll get writing again soon and come up with some creative content. We'll stay in touch! -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:22, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure where you got them, but they look great. -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:29, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
GhostAvatar
That wasn't meant as a threat to GhostAvatar at all, just the opposite, kind of a peacetreaty. It's just that I try to prevent things from really getting out of hand. I was already planning on a similar post, but when I noticed Agent c's post I was afraid he is/was going use that in a response to Kingclyde, which may end up in him being blocked. I really don't want that, so that's why I reacted to Agent c's post like I did. And we may need a forum thread in which we can discuss authority/power issues that we're having at the moment. Jspoel 19:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Forum
Please review my message. We really do not need this right now and how you went about it was incorrect. Each admin needs to be evaluated individually not on a collective page and only if an issue with that particular admin comes up. And you do not have the power to "make up a rule" where they can reapply in two months. That needs to be evaluated by the community. I have done my best here to make this a community based wikia but by people going around and arguing it makes things worse. And now making a forum page like that means you have not looked at the whole situation at this wikia.--Kingclyde 22:54, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I do believe J was wrong in locking that page and you beat me to unlocking it. But to say that the "BCs got involved and tried to close this thread asap, the ability for that to happen was lost." is a little insulting as you have no idea what I thought about this. Just think things through before you say them. Thanks.--Kingclyde 23:18, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Forum
I'm sorry, it's nothing against you personally and I might have taken the comments towards me a little too seriously. I'm just very weary after all of these accusations towards me lately (Not by you) and all of the disruption around the wiki being made by the same person. Just seems like I'm having to defend myself way too often these days when I shouldn't even have to. Especially when said accusations have nothing to back them up. You are a good friend though and I respect you very much. Sorry if I ever come across as not having those towards you at times. 
Skål! 23:11, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Funny how one new user who questioned why he couldn't blank his talk-page could cause so much trouble in the end. I'll be looking forward to when this whole mess is over and we can get back to what's important. Skål! 23:16, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
I think that was a great success, Ci. I think things can finally calm down now. -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:15, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Father Fate
Remember, you have complete freedom as a patron of the Strategic Nuclear Moose. ;) If you aren't motivated to update during a certain time-frame, then I certainly wouldn't disrespect you by telling you that you have to! I understand it is pretty hard to feel excited about it, as things are so slow around here and the main attention is being focuses elsewhere. I hope to see you come back later though when everything starts to pick up a little more! Because it was fun working with you, and I really liked your stories. It's only a shame my laptop doesn't seem to let me vote on here. Skål! 16:15, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
BM
That's why it was so iffy for me and I just left a warning. The only achievement he could have been working for is an x to y achievement and those don't really concern me so much. Skål! 16:26, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
- In this case, I meant an edit a day for a consecutive amount of days. :P Skål! 16:31, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Bot
Hi Guardian, do I remember you having a Bot? Was wondering what they do and if it might be able to help me... I'm looking for a bot to create a table as a status report for a project. Each page in a category needs to have a line in the table, but we're looking at a silly amount of man hours to do something a machine must be able to do easily. Any ideas? Thanks. Agent c 00:32, March 14, 2012 (UTC) Ooh sorry, it's not the whole wiki I need, just the VB articles. A row with the category name and 3 blank colums to be manually filled as we work the articles. Agent c 10:14, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm...
So that's where you've been spending all your time! I take offence in that ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 21:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment. It's 5 days, I think, since it counts from the day I've made the request. The policies aren't too specific on that. -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:42, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
New User Network
Thanks for Joining us Guardian. I've added you to the list. I'm also wondering given you've mentioned a specific user if there was anything in particular they did to help... if you can think of something that might help, drop a note on the projects talk page. Agent c 00:04, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
- I mean the support you got from Itachau. Was there anything specific that he did you think we can emulate? Agent c 13:06, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
Kewl. Well hopefully we'll have some success stories of our own just like that. Agent c 19:29, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
-.-
Well it was worth a shot. For someone who doesn't know all the Romance languages, it could've easily mistaken. Thanks for letting me know ;) -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:28, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
Image
My image? Oh, it wasn't made by me. It was from an artist from DeviantArt. 
"Let's talk."
- Thanks for the advice, Ci. I've been thinking a bit about that too, and I'll definitely work on it. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 20:35, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
About a certain project
Hello, Guardian! I'm a new editor here at the wiki, and I'm starting a project to add quotes to Fallout 1 and 2 articles (the intention is to add quotes to every single article; of course, the range of the project is characters/locations/quests/factions pages). Thing is, I'd like to know if you can use your bot to add a projectbox to the affected articles. This is the project box {{Fallout 1/2 Quotations Project}}. I'd appreciate very much if so.
The articles are the ones included in the following categories:
- FO1 char.: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_characters
- FO2 char.: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_characters
- FO1 quests: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_quests
- FO2 quests: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_quests
- FO1 locations: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_locations
- FO2 locations: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_locations
- FO1 factions: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_factions
- FO2 factions: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_factions
Cheers, --Crimson Frankie 06:24, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Guardian! ;-)
--Crimson Frankie -ArroyoTalk 21:02, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
Yessie
Fraid maybe you won't see him... He blocked himself last night after he blew up at cartman on the mutual understanding thread. Agent c 16:55, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- In the short term at least, I'm taking his pair. Its my hope that this will all blow over imminently, but that is sadly looking less likely. Agent c 20:13, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure which bit to answer your question for, so I'll answer them all. I still think he's an asset to the wiki in spite of what I hope is a temporary lapse in judgement, the confirmation vote however seems to be set to make it even worse. I'm taking him as a pair as he initially asked for me, but Yessie was a better time match, so I think its best in his stead if I take that one over. Agent c 20:26, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Im thinking the recall vote will discourage his return. Agent c 21:04, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure which bit to answer your question for, so I'll answer them all. I still think he's an asset to the wiki in spite of what I hope is a temporary lapse in judgement, the confirmation vote however seems to be set to make it even worse. I'm taking him as a pair as he initially asked for me, but Yessie was a better time match, so I think its best in his stead if I take that one over. Agent c 20:26, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
LegacyTech
Oh, really? How do you know him? What makes me so lucky? --Kastera (talk) 21:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- With the current sentence "Lucky guy to get paired with Kas", the subject is left up to assumption. The subject would be fully cemented if you were to say "you are a lucky guy to get paired with Kas". But now I'm nitpicking; I just always think I'm the subject of everything, since I'm so great. ;) --Kastera (talk) 23:17, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
My 75,000 edit image
Hey great to hear you're working on it! I will make it my 75,000th edit. Saves me thinking about it. How much time do you need? Jspoel 21:42, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
- You want me to make 900 edits in 3 days? That's even a bit too tough for me. So that will be plenty in time. Jspoel 22:51, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
What would you suggest? It seems like the majority of users are able to make it today and next Saturday. This is the problem with having such a diverse community. :P Skål! 00:18, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Just bump it up by 5 hours? I'm sure that's possible. Let me ask around before figuring out if an alternative time is better or not to what we already have. Just trying to fit in as many people as possible. :P Skål! 00:24, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do for you then. ;) Hopefully I can find a time for you to squeeze in without making it too inconvenient for anyone else. Skål! 00:42, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do for you then. ;) Hopefully I can find a time for you to squeeze in without making it too inconvenient for anyone else.
User right policy vote
Really Guardian, have you completely lost the ability do discuss things without resorting to drama? Limmiegirl Talk! ♪ 16:55, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't care less how long you've been here. You could have been Ausir for all I care, doesn't change the fact that "This place is a farce" is quite a ridiculous statement to end a vote with, and I'm fully entitled to question it. True that I don't know much about the subject of high drama, maybe you could give me pointers, you're getting better all the time.
The reason there's so much trouble here is that admins make so much drama here. If it's place is a farce it's because people think they have to behave every time as if they were in a West End play.
Also, I don't need to be let alone care about being welcome to post on somebody's talk page. If you think my messages are inappropriate, feel free to take proper procedures. Toodles <3 Limmiegirl Talk! ♪ 19:13, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Just realized you amended your message. Lovely. I'll just say to that that telling you can do something without demonstrating doesn't come off as arrogant, it comes off as meaningless. Toodles <3 Limmiegirl Talk! ♪ 19:30, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't purposively abrasive, though I did took a few liberties in tone because I thought we were friends, or at least friendly. We often had heated arguments in chat and never harbored grudges, at least AFAIK. I expected this time to be no different, but turned out it wasn't. Perhaps it was the lack of a "Toodles <3" at the end, go figure. Still, making that assumption was my mistake, and I'm sorry for that. But please cite one argument I got involved with while I shouldn't. There's none, because I only get involved with stuff put up on the wiki's official pages, which as an admin is not only my right but my job to do.
Ending a vote with "this place is a farce" is ridiculous because: 1. it's too vague to mean anything concrete, therefore pointless; 2. since it did not adress anything specific to the matter at hand, it was irrelevant to that vote; 3. it served only to stir up emotions, being essentially nothing but flamebait; and most of all, it's ridiculous because it's comming from you.
If this place is a farce, then you're one to be blamed for it. Stunts like this one you pulled recently are exclusively part of the problem. You may pat yourself on the back for that, but it was nothing but a childish and disruptive drama fest which only added to the problem. Your sollution to the drama problem was essentially a condescending and roundabout attempt to teach us an inane aesop that's barely worthy of a Sunday morning kid's cartoon. What helps us deal with drama is for us to be professional, objective, rational, and to stricly adhere to estabilished procedures, not to trown them out of the window whenever self-appointed gurus feel like putting up bizarre stunts. And you may go on about how much this place is a foolish show till the cows come home, but the fact is when we actually made the effort to curb the drama show, you turned a blind eye to it because the perpetrator happened to be your friend. Your then protesting against something you were an accomplice to is not only hypocritical, it's also outright ridiculous.
And for that matter, same goes for what you wrote. Most of it is either irrelevant emotional ranting which I don't give a damn about, unsubstantiated accusations, or meaningless boasts about your self appointed guru status and allegedly fearsome argumentation skills. Speaking of which, after all the chest-bumping I expected to see something constructive, or at least concrete. So far I'm not impressed. I say we drop this though, we obviously won't get anywhere with this. Believe me or not, my initial comment was meant exclusively as a friendly nudge for you to rethink the appropiateness of the time and place of your parting words on that vote. I'm sad that it has come to this, I was caught completely off guard by how badly you interpreted my remark, and how much vitriol was apparently botteled up inside you. Hopefully this served as an outlet for it and we can now go on our separate ways. Toodleshugz <3 Limmiegirl Talk! ♪ 16:55, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
Vandal
Good boi. --
20:17, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- no -- 20:39, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Arefu
Oh, look at that. I was setting up the talk page discussion as you were doing your edit. It seems like we need to look at anon's slightly differently, eh? -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 21:12, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Farce
So this place is a farce now that I am trying to change things for the better and streamline things. I'm sorry you feel that way. Adding to the division here is not helping. Thanks.--Kingclyde 21:55, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- My main concern is that I'm getting tired of all the bullshit here. I try to make these policies because users note they don't exist. That one was just codifying something we already have laying around. As for arguing, I just get sick of certain people trying to get the last word in and basically ignoring or blowing off my opinion as hogwash. I've tried to help but everybody seem to point out something they don't agree with me on and I always have to be on the defensive. If I really wanted this stress I would have run for office in real life, but shit this is a damn wiki. There should not be this kind of bs here. Please try to understand my viewpoint. I'm tired, frustrated and now unmotivated.--Kingclyde 22:33, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Ashamed
I'm not ashamed as much as I am tired. This wiki is a great hobby for me and I wish to see it thrive and expand, especially once the next Fallout game comes out for us. We've just hit a bump for now, and we need to tread lightly to make sure that this bump doesn't cause any sort of permanent damage. This is something we can get past, we just all need to come together and figure out what needs to be done with as little arguing as possible. Hence, the meeting I've come up with that hopefully will have a full attendance. Don't lose hope though, Ci. We'll get through this, and everything will return to normal soon. Most assuredly this bickering will end when the next game comes out. Right now I wonder if a lot of this isn't just because some of us are bored out of our minds. If you've noticed, many of our problems have arisen because of unknown and chat users. So now it seems to me a lot of us are trying to fix problems that never needed fixing in the first place because we don't exactly know what to do with our time spent here these days. My thoughts at least. Skål! 22:36, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Only time will tell where we end up. I think I have a few good ideas for ending the bickering around here. I hope you're able to make it to the first meeting so you can hear them and give your thoughts. Skål! 22:53, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hakiki
It's fine, Ci. He's still learning ;) I discussed it with him in chat already. Thanks for watching my back though. -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 23:43, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Vault
I don't really like the Vault. I'm not big on editing. That place is almost entirely focused on editing (at least last time I was there) and they don't really have proper blogs, forums or chats. Also, I know hardly anyone there; they're mostly the old admins that I never interacted with (Nitty, ShadowRunner, Porter etc.) I appreciate the concern, and if I do decide to leave, I'll surely miss you. Besides, I'm going to have to leave sometime. 
04:41, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
Hey
My booty requires kissing, so on your knees boyo! :p 
"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 23:47, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm...
It's an inside joke ;) -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 21:52, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
- I am fully aware of what it is/could be. Which is why he should be thankful that I acknowledge it as an inside joke :) -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 22:11, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. -SigmaDelta54(Talk)
Father Fate
You have 15 votes now. ;) When you get the chance, I'd actually like to talk with you for a bit in chat. Doing some major re-vamps to SNM soon and I think it offers up the possibility of getting more users interested and in the know for whenever something is updated; such as content created by patrons like yourself. Skål! 06:23, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Enjoy your tea time and I'll talk with you soon. ;) Skål! 16:19, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
My achievement image
Hope you're making real good progress on my 75,000 edit achievement image... I'm able to reach it today I think. Jspoel 13:32, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
- What do you say we drink one on it in chat?! Jspoel 23:10, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
Re-vamp
Hey there Ci! Just letting you know that I am running a complete over-haul of SNM and one of the aspects being changed is the look for our patrons. So I went through the liberties of providing you with a basic template. You're absolutely free to change any parts of it to suit your preferences at any time. :) If you want a look at what I've come up with so far, I'll go ahead and provide it for you:
|
Skål! 05:35, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
- On a side note... I can't seem to get this image to fill in properly without breaking the nav-box size limits. Feel free to use a better image to suit your needs. :P Skål! 05:36, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
- What I meant is that it's a little small for the middle column compared to the other patrons, who's pictures fit in almost perfectly. Can't make it any bigger because it'll expand the nav-box. Alright then! Also, if you didn't know, you can add additional dialogue bars if you want. ;) I just made the first three as a starting point. Skål! 15:00, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
- What I meant is that it's a little small for the middle column compared to the other patrons, who's pictures fit in almost perfectly. Can't make it any bigger because it'll expand the nav-box. Alright then! Also, if you didn't know, you can add additional dialogue bars if you want. ;) I just made the first three as a starting point.
Re:How 'bout 'em K's?
Seriously, Ci, you think I didn't know that? And it's fine, we all make mistakes. I'm glad I didn't have to write an essay in response ;O -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 17:44, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm sure you could've gone on but had the self-control not to indulge in such a thing (; -SigmaDelta54(Talk) 21:41, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
My achievement image
I like it a lot better. It has much more 'cheer' to it, don't you think? This one's fine! Jspoel 22:28, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that's a good one. Also liked what you did with my edit-count placement in the Lucky 38 sign. Nice touch! Jspoel 12:34, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
New world
What new world? America as in Columbus discovering it? Jspoel 20:20, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
- See the dutch Columbus wikipedia site, fourth line. It says: Nieuwe Wereld. That the dutch translation. Jspoel 20:34, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Adminship request
Thanks for the vote. Hope to see you more! MS: Destiny conquers all. 19:15, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
Re:Bonjour
Ah yes I forgot that it was Itachou, not Jspoel. That misconception most likely stems from the view that you and Jspoel seem to be good friends (as far as friendships on the wiki go) from what I've seen. And the "if you have a problem with me" wasn't totally directed at you, more so others (there's been quite a bit of... discontentment shown in chat recently). I simply want people to be candid and come face-to-face (internet style) about issues. And after reading over things, I do believe I could take it down a notch as it could seem rude, especially if I hadn't written it myself and was directed at me. All in all, I honestly thank you for this bit of advice, as ever since that unpleasant chat encounter due to my poor conduct on the fora I've also considered you a good friend (and poet :D). But could you explain to me what you meant by this: "...remember that not everyone is as intelligent as you (seemingly ;)) are"? --Skire (talk) 20:29, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I hope you're not calling me stupid, but I'll just leave that as a seemingly benign joke. And about chat: certain people recently or not so recently have been "expressing" their "views" about me and a few others (mostly admins & 'crats) in chat. These are typically things that they would never say to my face, and it creates a sense of distrust and discomfort for me. You would be amazed at things people can say when the subject of their incessant complaining is oblivious... --Skire (talk) 20:42, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I must say I am surprised that people talk maliciously about you, I can't imagine what there is to talk about in that sense... But for me it's always the same - I'm a power-hungry whore who is very oppressive and talks down to people consistently. And at one point there was even the "I over-protect pages pre-emptively and inappropriately", and rumour spread a little bit too. I usually find this out through other people who were present at the time or (coincidentally) if I join right after some slander (as the chat displays some of the most recent conversation prior to joining). After browsing some of the logs, it brought to light some of the things that were being said, and to me, that is quite frankly abhorrent. --Skire (talk) 20:52, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- It's fine, really. The periodic chat-bad-mouthing is far outweighed by the presence of those whom I prefer as company (you, Jspoel, Leon, Lims, et al.) (: --Skire (talk) 20:59, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Why yes he was/is. In fact, he was one of the main people who had been saying the aforementioned things. I talked to him about it the other day and he passed it off as "being hot-headed". And I did mention it on the app (my first vote comment) but didn't want to elaborate as people could twist it to look like a personal vendetta, which it isn't. It simply is not the behaviour an admin should have... at all. And while those editing examples were relatively minor after all, things like these take up the majority of my vote. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from a little better now ;) --Skire (talk) 21:29, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I feel the same way. What's done is done. But that was why I got a little annoyed when people couldn't see why I was so... ardent in not wanting him to be an admin. I guess I focused too much on the edits, which weren't that important at all and could be completely disregarded even without much effect. My vote would have remained the same. For average users to gossip somewhat maliciously in chat? Fine. For an admin? Hell no. Everyone was so fixated on how he "is so nice" and "helpful" and "greets me every time I enter chat", they failed to see such a significant trend of behaviour that is generally agreed upon to be unacceptable for an admin. --Skire (talk) 21:49, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Why yes he was/is. In fact, he was one of the main people who had been saying the aforementioned things. I talked to him about it the other day and he passed it off as "being hot-headed". And I did mention it on the app (my first vote comment) but didn't want to elaborate as people could twist it to look like a personal vendetta, which it isn't. It simply is not the behaviour an admin should have... at all. And while those editing examples were relatively minor after all, things like these take up the majority of my vote. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from a little better now ;) --Skire (talk) 21:29, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- It's fine, really. The periodic chat-bad-mouthing is far outweighed by the presence of those whom I prefer as company (you, Jspoel, Leon, Lims, et al.) (: --Skire (talk) 20:59, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
- I must say I am surprised that people talk maliciously about you, I can't imagine what there is to talk about in that sense... But for me it's always the same - I'm a power-hungry whore who is very oppressive and talks down to people consistently. And at one point there was even the "I over-protect pages pre-emptively and inappropriately", and rumour spread a little bit too. I usually find this out through other people who were present at the time or (coincidentally) if I join right after some slander (as the chat displays some of the most recent conversation prior to joining). After browsing some of the logs, it brought to light some of the things that were being said, and to me, that is quite frankly abhorrent. --Skire (talk) 20:52, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Re:Pagina Colloquii
Thanks! And yeah I thought of that too haha :) It was in part inspired by your signature, actually. --Skire (talk) 19:20, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Not like that, but as in using a classical language in the signature, which isn't very common. I liked yours so I thought I'd do it too, but in Latin and not Greek :) --Skire (talk) 20:29, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm
Many people mistake bluntness as talking down or being disrespectful to the person in question. I have confidence in my decisions and a lot of people can't handle that. Also, it is difficult to tell the meaning behind people's words over the internet. So it's being quite assumptious whenever anyone says I'm being disrespectful. I almost always say what I do with utmost respect. The problem is, I am straight to the point and I don't beat around the bush. Most people do not like that. But that's not really my problem. As for the quote you pointed out, what I did was not disruptive in the least. A little unpleasantness is not the same thing as being disruptive. And as an Administrator, being a little unpleasant to people tends to be inevitable when solving conflicts. Skål! 21:57, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Because I'm not afraid to speak my mind. Maybe it's because most people here are so young and immature, but it seems like everyone is keen to shy away from problems and resort to just talking behind people's backs in chat. If I see a problem, I'm going to try and resolve it. And out in the open. I hate having my point weakened by having to explain myself so constantly, but at the same time, I sort of have to with the type of people that tend to frequent here. Skål! 22:06, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- What do you mean by anti-publically? Skål! 22:23, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Blanket statements. -.- If you're going to say I contradicted myself, please list the examples. And yes, I am arrogant at times. So? I have proven again and again that I know the policies here and that I am here to improve and protect this wiki to the best of my abilities. I might be infamous here for defending my points, but have you noticed I've hardly ever been proven wrong? And I always admit it when I am proven wrong. And what's wrong with being unfeeling? I can't be a good leader unless I'm looking at everything neutrally. Not only that, but I don't know anybody here personally except one person. No one here is my friend, not in the true sense at least. I hate to say that, but no one can be a true friend when you only know them as a picture on a screen. As for reiterating upon what Al said, that was not hypocritical of me. He already made it public, which gives me every right to use it as an example. And I do have experience. I am older than many of the leadership here, and I have experience leading and knowing how to follow the rules given to me through work and growing up through band as 1st chair clarinet and sax player. (Jazz Band also.) I would like to point out that I'm not stating that I'm better than anyone. Someone having confidence doesn't mean the same thing as being egotistical.
- If you don't have the time to prove your statements, then don't make them please. As for Clyde... I have utmost respect for him. The problem is, I end up arguing with him because he is constantly disrespectful towards me. For instance, I have never cussed at him once and my bare minimal insults were backed up with facts. Like when I called him a liar after he said he sent me a message and I proved it by going through my talk-page history showing that he never once messaged me before. Or when I called him a glory-hound after I had just finished banning someone and the incident was over and then he removed my ban template and overwrote my ban with the same exact time I had given him. Clyde, on the other hand, has insulted me numerous times. He has cussed me out and has personally attacked me. Then he threw a fit and took a short break while ostracizing me in his good bye blog. Hate to say it, but he's making it hard on me to show any sort of respect. Skål! 23:04, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- If you don't have the time to prove your statements, then don't make them please. As for Clyde... I have utmost respect for him. The problem is, I end up arguing with him because he is constantly disrespectful towards me. For instance, I have never cussed at him once and my bare minimal insults were backed up with facts. Like when I called him a liar after he said he sent me a message and I proved it by going through my talk-page history showing that he never once messaged me before. Or when I called him a glory-hound after I had just finished banning someone and the incident was over and then he removed my ban template and overwrote my ban with the same exact time I had given him. Clyde, on the other hand, has insulted me numerous times. He has cussed me out and has personally attacked me. Then he threw a fit and took a short break while ostracizing me in his good bye blog. Hate to say it, but he's making it hard on me to show any sort of respect.
- Blanket statements. -.- If you're going to say I contradicted myself, please list the examples. And yes, I am arrogant at times. So? I have proven again and again that I know the policies here and that I am here to improve and protect this wiki to the best of my abilities. I might be infamous here for defending my points, but have you noticed I've hardly ever been proven wrong? And I always admit it when I am proven wrong. And what's wrong with being unfeeling? I can't be a good leader unless I'm looking at everything neutrally. Not only that, but I don't know anybody here personally except one person. No one here is my friend, not in the true sense at least. I hate to say that, but no one can be a true friend when you only know them as a picture on a screen. As for reiterating upon what Al said, that was not hypocritical of me. He already made it public, which gives me every right to use it as an example. And I do have experience. I am older than many of the leadership here, and I have experience leading and knowing how to follow the rules given to me through work and growing up through band as 1st chair clarinet and sax player. (Jazz Band also.) I would like to point out that I'm not stating that I'm better than anyone. Someone having confidence doesn't mean the same thing as being egotistical.
- What do you mean by anti-publically?
Look...
...I'm sorry. It's not like I'm doing these things to piss people off. I do them because I do what I must to keep this wiki running. I don't think I'm better than anyone. I most certainly don't think I'm the power player around here. I have to admit that by now I was hoping people would have realized that I do what I do because I care. I have never proven to the contrary. I do consider you and others here as friends though. Maybe not true friends, but you all are certainly not just images. I was just stating that sometimes it's hard to see past that. I guess I'll use this as a chance to just drop off the map here for awhile with the occasional edit or two. Start working on the Moose some more, maybe. Certainly won't leave though. :') Some things around here worry me, but Nukapedia will always have my loyalty. And I have proven that time and time again as well. Hope you don't think too badly of me though. I'm who I am though. And I like getting my point across is all. It's not an intentional means to get people riled up though. Hope you can understand that. Skål! 23:17, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- That's not a contradiction. :/ Anyways, yes, I suppose I shall have to take this as a learning experience. I admit I get over-zealous. I really shouldn't at times, but I still make legitimate points. The problem I think is, I am used to different environments than here. I grew up in an authoritarian house-hold, and I had to learn how to express myself in a way that no one can ignore. I push it at times, but until recently, this has always helped me get my opinion across in a way that everyone understands. I will try and control the way I word myself. But I can't really make any promises at the same time. I speak honestly, and I do my research. Skål! 23:34, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm absolutely sure both Nukapedia and The Vault will get back on their feet once the next game is released. It will be nice having all of that new information to add here again. Haha, yeah I would never leave here unless certain forced me too. (Like the Navy thing) I think I'll just stay out of the politics for now. Skål! 23:47, May 6, 2012 (UTC
- To generalize things, I believe I have only insulted him twice, and with pretty good reason. I will have to look back though and confirm this for myself. Skål! 23:51, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
- Don't mind me! xD I think I've gotten too use to defending myself, so I get a tad defensive after events such as these. That and I'm still a little upset. Oh well. See you around Ci. I think I'm going to make myself some dinner now. Skål! 00:01, May 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Don't mind me! xD I think I've gotten too use to defending myself, so I get a tad defensive after events such as these. That and I'm still a little upset. Oh well. See you around Ci. I think I'm going to make myself some dinner now.
- To generalize things, I believe I have only insulted him twice, and with pretty good reason. I will have to look back though and confirm this for myself.
- I'm absolutely sure both Nukapedia and The Vault will get back on their feet once the next game is released. It will be nice having all of that new information to add here again. Haha, yeah I would never leave here unless certain forced me too. (Like the Navy thing) I think I'll just stay out of the politics for now.
Re:Sig
Yeah, I kinda figured :P It was just an inside joke though, nothing serious. I can understand why it would be considered offending, though. I changed it. --We live on a placid island of ignorance, in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. 17:24, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Update
Argumentis perfeci. Disputationī adde, ubi potes. Progressionis mē certiora. Gratias tibi ago :) --Skire (talk) 01:23, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
In Russia...
Yes, that's actually how I learned of events there. Er. I think you read my points wrong though. I wasn't saying anything that Ausir did is bad, or even that his actions have caused negative consequences here. Like I told Tag, I respect Ausir and I believe that most everything he does is for good intentions. :) Skål! 21:41, May 11, 2012 (UTC)