Talk:Big MT

Just wondering, I can't find any source for the Big Empty being the same as Tibbets Prison? --Flower of Pock-Lips 19:59, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, I'm not sure, but could Big Empty be Area 51? --J0hnvik 19:01, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

the big empty is also a name for new Orleans if that has any relevance. --67.190.130.99 16:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

With the reference to "hibernation chambers", hopefully the Courier will get to greet a sleeper with "welcome... to the world of tomorrow!"

Name

Given that post-war, this place is exclusively referred to as the Big Empty, should that not be the title of this article? I mean, shouldn't we prefer post-war names to pre-war names for locations? --Flower of Pock-Lips 13:09, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

No. Factual accuracy > Human perception. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 17:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

In that case, the following also need to be changed:

• Citadel → Pentagon
• Little Lamplight → Lamplight Caverns
• Old Olney → Olney
• New Reno → Reno
• Boneyard → Los Angeles
• New Vegas → Las Vegas
• New Canaan → Ogden
• Two Sun → Tucson
• New Jerusalem → Salt Lake City

And plenty of other examples. I don't see what is inherently superior about the pre-war name for this location, given that nobody uses it anymore. Big Mountain is still named using "human perception", because it was named by humans. The only difference now is that humans have another name for it. --Flower of Pock-Lips 17:42, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I moved it back to Big Empty. Ausir^(talk) 16:07, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

tag

hey tagiziel, how do you know that the picture is of the big empty?Icommandoxx 22:37, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Given that it's not from vanilla FNV or Honest Hearts, and that the Qore edition doesn't cover Lonesome Road at all, I simply assumed that since Old World Blues focuses on the Big Empty, then this is surely an image from it or the surrounding environs. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 22:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

ok, Just making sure y'know?Icommandoxx 23:06, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Joshua Graham and the Big Empty

Joshua Graham mentions Death Valley and a road leading north from it that also lead to New Vegas which could have helped the NCR supply their troops more quickly into New Vegas, but that the Big Empty blocked of that route. I assume this route would be the 127 in California and US 95 S with the Big Empty somewhere in the vicinity. Any ideas on where or what it could be?

No, Joshua Graham reference is about the Divide and 127 was a reference to California State Route (SR) 127 (as Route 127 is on the East Coast) that is the Death Valley Road, it begins at Baker and end at the California-Nevada border. I tried to figured out were the Divide might been using it as reference and given up, also Joshua Graham mentions by name Death Valley and the SR 127 goes along to its East side.

Well, Joshua mentions that NCR could no longer go north on the 127 because of the Divide to get around the mountains there. So maybe its in that valley where Tecopa, and Shoshone are. It's a bit odd given how the I-15 is more of a straight shot Vegas, and taking 127, then 372, then 160 is more of a scenic route. Unless they planned on cutting that path so they could link up with 160 into Vegas, and have access to 95 in the north. Or maybe their main forces where going down 190 from Owens Valley "where I think Shady Sands is", and the Divide is around where 127, and 190 meet up. This would put NCR forces meeting up "if they did not get destroyed" in Amargosa Valley, and from there its a straight shot into North Vegas. So I guess the main plan was just to come into Vegas from the north, or with most of the forces going that way, but due to the events of the Divide, their only main route is I-15, and I guess I-15 is a bit out of the way for NCR forces to move along.

Location

Does anyone have access to the GECK or are at the stage of the game where the Burned Man talks about the Divide? Because he mentions the Big Empty and some of the surrounding highways there, and if someone can get a transcript we might be able to pinpoint its location with more precision. --Lugiatm (talk · contribs) 15:02, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

There are only 2 entries were he talk about the Big Empty:"As if Death Valley weren't enough, they had the Divide and Big Empty to deal with. From what the Legion's explorers reported, the Big Empty may as well have been a wall to any living thing approaching it."The rest is about the Great Divide and nothing indicates the Big Empty is near it.

In that picture

In the image for this article, the suit that the courier is wearing appears to be the assassin's suit but with white stripes running down it. Does that mean that the assassin's suit came from the big empty with Father Elijah and Christine when they came to the Sierra Madre? Or are the developers being lazy with the new items by reusing existing models? Zac hemker 18:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards the latter myself, but who knows Gheart 13:39, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

death claws nightstalkers and you

great just what i wanted i always wanted to go to the place deathclaws were made and every other abombination this is just great remember that morning glory cave in honest hearts well when i exited it 3 green geckos spawned and kept killing me it took me 15 tries just to kill them and run away i can just imagine what will happen in the big empty i better go buy that anti-materiel rifle--Corporal grif 20:47, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

No offence, but if you don't go in properly equipped and leveled that's what you get. My level 13 character went in their on Normal mode and died three times (only because of the YCS/186 Gauss Rifle saving me about 7 times), yet my level 35 went in there with an Anti-Materiel Rifle, a Ballistic Fist and a 12.7mm SMG and plowed through every enemy with ease, dieing 0 times on Hard mode. Personally, I can't wait for something that could challenge that tank of a character, plus apparently the story and equipment's good :P AR700SAW 15:17, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Name

Should it be renamed it's official name: Big Mt. Research & Development Center? Trolly Polly Olly 22:36, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, it's its old name, like New Vegas (Las Vegas). It's know now as "Big Empty". Itachou ^[~talk~] 18:27, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Tranqulity Lane?

In the quore interview at roughly 2:28 you can see what looks like a real life version of tranqulity lane complete with overgrown floral. So maybe this is where the VRs where constructed and programmed. Either way its a nice place to add into the game.--Gmcb007 18:18, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Agree, I like technology and futuristic weapons ;) (sci-fi fan). Itachou ^[~talk~] 18:28, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

dead money in the big empty

so in dead money you meet christine again which makes me think that she'll have a special line if you played dead money than again since you can kill her (im pretty sure)does that mean that in this dead money doesnt exist or what and if it did i bet that there would be a speech requirement of somthing high to lie to her and say you were at the sierra madre to get the informaition kinda like half of the speech options in new vegas lying for no reason.on the other hand you said we would deal with holograms not like dead money holograms but different how are they better worse what do they even oppose a threat to the courier or what because i heard those holograms were pretty bullshit--Corporal grif 08:19, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

'Kiba-no-zanku' sword? really?

I smell bullshit on this latest revision. I'm deleting the giberish that got added to it.

Stolen brain?

it says on the page that the couriers brain gets stolen is that possible? I know in FO3 PL a bit of the brain gets snipped but can the whole thing be stolen? Nbyk goughy 18:50, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Huh, I wonder how they'll pull it off? When you look on the video, there's no headgear I can see keeping you alive. AR700SAW 15:19, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps there is a cybernetic implant that goes in your head in lieu of your brain and has a wi-fi-esque link to your actual brain, which is hooked up to a machine that allows the transmission to take place? That's the only way I can imagine it happening. Sort of like the Dead Money collars but more efficient, because the Think Tanks can hold it for ransom while you are in the Big Empty doing their bidding, and possibly can exercise some degree of mind control. The possibilities of which could end up being kind of trippy depending on the developers' tastes. --FeralGrant 01:28, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Not Area 51?

So it was called the Big Mountain Research and Development Center, huh? It would certainly be fitting if it was Area 51. Think about it: Area 51 isn't too far northeast of Las Vegas, and the conspiracies surrounding it (even though it is officially a testing base for aircraft) could prove interesting to be seen as true. Not only that, but in real life Area 51 is kept supplied by Nellis Air Force Base, so that could lead to some interesting developments.

Image

The image looks fine to me. I don't think the 'image needed' tag is necessary. 04:25, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Big MT = Big Empty

Shoulf we add the fact that Big MT, is an obvious pun. Big MT, Big EM TEE. Maybe in the notes.

--Matsudiro 19:51, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Impact Crater?

Is it just me, or does Big MT. look like a large impact crater?