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Nobody Cares[]
Nobody wants every page with a hostile to contain a strategy guide. It's unprofessional and doesn't add information. Consider removing it. --166.137.143.124 11:33, November 3, 2010
I agree, it needs to go.--BOSPalidan 's ROFLCopter goes soi soi soi soi soi 14:44, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
Base ID[]
What is this guy's base ID? I'm trying to set him as a non-essential, and the ID that comes up (00137a9d) isn't working. 58.69.91.222 15:32, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
Tallest NPC[]
Is he the tallest NPC in the game? I mean, he seems super big when you stand before him. Like 7 foot or more (in relation to the other NPCs and the player's height).
Christ I never really noticed but damn, he IS a monster. Chaos ian7 19:30, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe he IS a super mutant with a different mutation, some kind of mutation that doesn't give him the green (or blue) skin, doesn't deform his face, gives middle muscular mass, and makes it smart. With all the myths about him, and all the radiation on the wasteland, who knows!!! (or maybe he's a badass android created by dr. zimmer)
- or maybe he's just tall...
One on one[]
With good karma or a Speech skill of 80, you can persuade Lanius to fight you one-on-one. This option seems to appear if you fail one of the Speech/Barter checks beforehand.
Legates real story.[]
It makes logical sense that the stories about him, are just stories. The real version is that he was a full legionary by 12 and that such.
All the evidence points to the stories, being stories.
There is no evidence. The only information available to the player is the stories. With the way the parts of the game relating to him are written, it's pretty obvious that Obsidian were going for a sort of legendary feel for this character. You aren't supposed to know him, you're just supposed to draw your own conclusion. I'd be surprised if the writers even actually wrote a solid back story for this character. They probably just started, and finished, with the rumours being spread around the wasteland.--62.30.162.142 21:25, March 3, 2012 (UTC)
Special Healing Powder[]
When I killed Lanius he had some legate healing powder on his corpse. There is no page fo this and I am bad at making pages. Just thought I would point that out. Frantruck 20:40, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I killed Lanius by acidentally insta-killing him (with a bring him out of his camp) glitch. When he died he dropped 3 "Leg. Healing Powder"s. I assume this is what he uses to heal with mid battle. Chaos ian7 01:11, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
- The same thing happened to me, except it was four "Leg. Healing Powder"s I think. I fired a mini-nuke at him and made a direct hit at his feet. It only removed about half his health but the blast shot him about fifty feet into the air, which meant that he died on impact when he fell back down (threatening to do horrible things to me all the way down -- quite funny, actually). You probably only get these powders if you manage to kill him fast enough so that he has no chance to use them up Wunengzi 06:25, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that there needs to be additional clarification (either here, or on the Healing Powder page -- probably both). Can you obtain the Healing Powder from the Legate Lanius (as though he were a vendor from whom you purchase it) -- or is it something he only has and keeps. I.e., the only way you get some is to kill him before he uses up his limited five supply?
I punched him in the face with a Ballistic Fist, and I got all five healing powders lol. --Ranger Breasly 22:28, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
Joshua Graham?[]
I came to believe that perhaps, even though it is not indicated, Joshua Graham and Lanius may be one. Graham was Caesar's friend for a long time, even before the Legion came to be. Lanius says that Graham deserved the fire that Caesar blessed him with, which could explain why he constantly wears his helmet and armor. I found Lanius' given background was weak:
Interestingly, there seems to be several spoken versions of Lanius origins, and he himself appears to be surrounded by myths. Lucius mentions that Lanius was already a Legionnaire by the age of 12, which doesn't fit well with Caesar's story about him. Also, Lanius is said to be a brutal savage, and hate the Legion, only leading it because of his respect for Caesar. In-game, however, he is much smarter and noble than a savage could be, and seemingly has no grudge against the Legion itself.
But this is all theory.
- Graham is the Burned Man, not the Legate. The Legate is simply a disastrously intelligent psychopath. Kind of like Hannibal Lecter, except a military leader, not a carnivorous psychiatrist.
Tagaziel (call!) 00:23, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
Shit, I'm a combat-oriented level 34 and I am too scared to fight the Legendary Deathclaw and it's minions. But now I look at this guy, able to run faster with broken legs and heavy armor than the fastest Courier wearing light armor, and now I know who would win. Lanius could take on the Legendary Deathclaw any day, and could clear out Quarry Junction easy. Oh man, if someone made him an ally with console commands or a mod, then they would be unstoppable. --TJbrena 16:36, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
- He's stoppable because like all NPCs he's dumb as a sack of hammers. Just put a minefield between yourself and him, for instance. He'll run right through it. Wunengzi 06:29, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
- He's also incredibly easy with the YCS/186. I had Better Criticals, Bloody Mess, 100 Energy Weapons, took one slasher and 2 psycho, and landed a sneak critical (on the head, of course) and he died in one shot. Tested on "Hard" difficulty (I usually play on normal, so I wouldn't know if this would work on "Very Hard").
Wearing Legion Armor[]
Lanius will ask if it's some sort of insult that you're wearing legion garb. (I was wearing Caesar's :P)
Niiiiice --Ranger Breasly 22:25, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
C4[]
Place enough C4, lure him into a it, blow it up, watch how he flies :D, now seriously he is a little too easy compared to any other final boss i have ever seen lol, even tough i must admit he makes a helluva lot damage, also i got a question, does poison coated throwing knifes/hatchets/spears affect him? or his armor avoids poison?.--Nuke-a-Punch 04:02, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
- He seems like the perfect poster child for the use of Tremble. Has anyone ever hit him with it? Wunengzi 06:34, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
- If only Tremble actually slows him down. His speed makes him extremely annoying. Knockdown from an axe makes him much easier to deal with. ZirePhoenix 07:51, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
Human sacrifice to Mars![]
Playing for the Legion, before starting the Battle for Hoover Dam (Veni, Vidi, Vici - the last quest), you enter Legate Lanius' tent. After you entered the tent, before the Legate starts conversation, he actually sacrifices people to Mars! This should be included. This article includes a sentence about the Legate and his "relationship" to Mars. It can be implemented in that sentence.
tactics[]
Should we remove the damned amount of tactics?Icommandoxx 22:29, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
the butchers face[]
this is true i also think that its a big slap in the face when you remove his mask as it clearly says it was made my the legion to cover his half burnt face it would of made a nice bit of interesting detail to actuly get a kind of reward at the end of the game. id also like to carry on playing wilst wearing lanius's armour and mask as it makes a great trophy to be ohnest.
His Face[]
I think Caesers story is right but that Lanius Face healed long ago but Caeser wants to keep spreading that his face is damaged to make people scared of the Legion--Kanto's Champion 11:40, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
The picture with his helmet off...[]
It isn't canon, as the player is never meant to see him without the helmet. His face is meant to be severely damaged. Should be noted in the caption.
Comparison to the 1974 "Zardoz"[]
So I made an edit to the 'behind the scenes' section, containing a mention that it's likely that the character's mask was partially based on the 1974 post-apocalyptic movie 'Zardoz', where a group of people called the 'Brutals' (and a champion class of them called the 'Exterminators' - "the Chosen [of Zardoz]") go around wearing a very similar mask, in honor of their god (who glorifies battle, war, etc -very similar to Mars), made in the image of their god, and supplied a clear enough picture from the movie of the mask (Picture being included in this talk section).
Now while I think the edit I made could have possibly been refined, it was instead subsequently edited out by another user because they found "not it too similar" -hence why I'm taking this to the talk section for further consideration.
Now, the similarities I present are thus: 1) Firstly, it has a very similar look (at least, from my perspective -noted points I find similar, the general expression on the face, blacked out eye holes, a beard, and similar cheeks, the main differences being that Laniuses has a roman helmet). 2) The purpose of the look -which is to be in the shape of their worshiped god/god of war. 3) The masks are worn by "the Chosen [of Zardoz]", and Lanius wear's it because he is Caesar's/Mars' Champion/Legate.
The intention was also to show it as a "possibility" that this is what it's based on, or in the least looked upon for inspiration, not as a definitive fact (until verified by a developer).
So, thoughts? Toyb 12:37, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
- My thoughts are: Was this a really cool movie? And yes this seems very similar. Sombar1 12:43, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
- It's quite a good "b-movie", and it does have some pretty cool visual effects for a movie made in 1974, also has the shocking image of Sean Connery in "a red nappy, knee-high leather boots, pony tail and Zapata moustache.", which you can see an image of here, it's also post-apocalyptic, so it's watchable, but definitely not the best post-apocalyptic movie around. Toyb 12:54, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
I've seen the movie, too. I removed the behind the scenes entry. I just don't find the mask very similar. Very different facial hair and expression. As for "blacked out eyes," that's because they are masks. Masks have holes for eyes, so you can see out of them. I don't find the parallel of Zardoz's chosen and Caesar's Legate very compelling.
Others should feel free to weigh in. I just find the similarities superficial and subjective. My two cents.--Gothemasticator 13:14, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
While I see only the physical similarities on the helmet and don't really get any of the backstory behind the two, I think the note should be added, because they do look quite similar. --With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' YOU. LOSE. 16:14, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
Well, so far it seems it's 3:1 in favor of the inclusion of the reference, so if no one else can bring up a decent argument for it not to be included, or gets outvoted in the next week, I'll put the reference back up in 7 days-or-so. Toyb 06:04, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
Have you got a reference for it actually being based off of it? Just because it looks vaguelly similar to a mask from some B movie doesn't warrant an inclusion. Wyrmalla 12:39, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
- If Lanius is never seen without the helmet, then this "similarity" is based entirely on "well, if he took the helmet off, they would like kinda like each other." With the helmet, there's no way.--Gothemasticator 14:05, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
Can someone give me the console coomand for Legate Lanius' armor?
- 001649dd Pat:3
01:02, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys ive tried out legate lanius' armor cheat on pc and it says that i have it in my inventory but it doesnt show up. Can anybody help me out as to why?...
Courier shot in the head twice[]
About the note, "■Oddly, when speaking to Lanius when fighting for the NCR he will comment on two bullet wounds upon the Courier's head, indicating that the Courier may have been shot before his encounter with Benny." Didn't Benny shoot twice? 81.231.240.73 11:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, he did. I removed that note, thanks for the heads-up. --Kris
12:42, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
Concerning stealth-attacking the Legate[]
The wiki states that Lanius has a metric fuckton of health. Amusingly my first playthrough of New Vegas ended with a single stealth critical hit from the Gobi Campaign Scout Rifle. While I will admit my character was built with that tactic in mind (level 30, guns and sneak skills at max, Bloody Mess perk, Better Criticals perk), I can't help but find it odd that I was able to kill him in a single hit. Is his health only insanely high when in "boss" mode, or can that gun actually manage the kind of damage output needed to tear through over 900 hit points with a single AP round? --24.155.44.32 04:59, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
The same effect can be achieved with a anti-materiel rifle. A single shot from stealth can blow his head off without triggering the scripted battle, ending the quest and moving to the next objective.
--213.189.183.40 17:44, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
IN Stat[]
I've just reverted an anon's edit that moved his IN to 10 as it seemed suspicious for something like that to be that wrong... Could someone with GECK access and skills double check it? Thanks. Agent c 20:01, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
Glitch, Kinda[]
I don't really know where to put this, but given the way it occurred was very uncommon and the fact I have a lot of bugs in my installation in general (freezes on loading every 45 minutes to 2 hours, inability to take screenshots (corrupted files/black walls)), and because it involved using the console, but basically I teleported myself to Lanius, having already failed the legion quests, which took me to his war tent, where he was. He's marked essential at that point, so I couldn't kill him, but the only saves for the past two hours I'd made were quicksaves - which I had overwritten after teleporting there for some reason. So, I teleported away, and thought nothing more of it. The next day, I started and finished Honest Hearts. On exiting the northern passage, I was quite shocked to be greeted by Lanius - a pause for him to say something - whatever it was, I considered it might be part of honest hearts, seeing as it involved the previous Legate, but as you probably know, it wasn't. He was also still marked essential, so I would be pursued by the Invincible Legate everywhere I went.
I figured I'd move him back, but of course, the only way I knew to tele to his tent was to tele to him - which obviously wasn't going to work - and I couldn't find the ID for anyone else in his tent (the best option being the slave, as I wasn't sure whether or not I'd killed his guards before leaving), because that isn't listed anywhere. Anyway, I made a new game, and teleported to him (in the opening cutscene, so my character creation had his final battle speech instead of the doctor's dialogue), figured out I'd need god mode to survive, ragdolled my way to the slave eventually, got her ref ID (it's 0014ddfe, by the way), went back into my main save, teleported to her, teleported him to me, did the whole enable/disable/kill/res/stopcombat, tele'd away, and then went back to HH and returned, and he wasn't there, so I think it's fixed.
I generally wouldn't post this because doing what I assume I did to cause it takes incredible uhhh, let's say "effort", but apparently it's possible to get to his war tent without console use by doing some ridge climbing and exploiting a hole in the invisible walls. I guess it was because I didn't stopcombat him that he found me there, I might test it again, see if it happens after exiting any DLC area, if that's the trigger, or whether he was tracking me for ages and just happened to find me there, haha, but I doubt anyone cares.
Might be worth putting the slave's ID in the War Tent article in case someone else has the same bug and wants the ID, but I don't like to edit Wikis I'm not familiar with the strictures of. Sorry for the tl;dr, too.
121.45.243.70 11:44, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Fan Film[]
To whoever said that the changes to Lanius are irrelevant because of fanfilm, said fanfilm is with permission from Bethesda, including contributions from the original voice actor. I will leave it out, but I assure you, someone else will soon put it back.
- It is made with permission, but that does not make it canon, it just means the copyrights and trademarks can be used. I'm looking for a way that we can mention it, but it doesnt belong in a "canon" article. (new user protection added for 2 weeks) Agent c (talk) 12:37, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
Unused dialogue for female courier[]
In dialogue, Lanius refers to an NCR affiliated courier always as "Man of the West" even if the Courier is played as a woman. He also has an unused dialogue for a female courier when convinced to fight alone with the combination karma/speech check, talking about how "the West's treatment of bitches such as you" for example. I don't know about putting that in the notes though —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basedmanump9 (talk • contribs) 08:57, July 16, 2021 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!