Okay Art-Lovers, Welcome to the official logo change page.
I'm planning to work this as follows, but as this is a wiki, I'm happy to take suggestions or be overruled at any point. The goal is to be a bit more organised than the last time.
1: First up, we have the "Consulting and Entry" phase. I'm planning to keep this open for 2 weeks. During this time you can create your masterpieces, post them here, and if there's a few Q's from others, you can respond with a few answers.
2: Then comes the first round. If there are too few entries (less than 3) in a category the first round gets skipped. The first round will work like the first phase of the name change poll, with the main difference being that no new entries will be accepted. You will be allowed to vote "Yes" on as many entries as you like, with the top contestants moving to phase two. If there are between 3 and 5, this will be the top 2, and if more than 5 the top 3. This is open for a week or so.
3: The final round will work like the second part of the name change poll, in that you will have a single vote in each category. The previous finalists (or all entries if there are only 1 or 2) will be pitted up against "No Change" - i.e., whatever logo is in that current category.
Nukapedia Category: Sizing and this process
Sorry for the late breaking change. In this phase, I'm happy for people to enter representative logos - you should bear in mind that its going to have to fit in place of the current logo, in its current size (that means making sure any text, etc is visible, prominent enough. and its not going to look stretched or compacted). For those that make it to the final round (phase 2), you will need to display your image on a mocked-up page, so we can see how it will be displayed - you're encouraged to do this now, so you can work out any kinks in the design, but because I didn't think of it first off, I'm not going to require it... Just yet.
Categories
Given that we've changed the name and are the main logo I think its only fair that we put any logo being used for wiki purposes up as "Fair Game" - as The Vault will probably want to continue using our incumbent logos I think this is the best possible time to put them on the table. Please state which logo you're looking to replace: main logo, news, a template, polls, etc. If you don't I'll have a guess at your intentions.
Favicons
Just when creating entries for the main Nukapedia Logo category, please bear in mind that a Favicon will be needed to match... this is probably going to need something with some resemblance to the main logo - at least same colours. I think we night need to look at running partners... Although a little mix and match might also work - I can see Nukapedia Rust Red working well with the top-toward-me bottlecap. Agent c 20:22, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
How to enter
Create a 2nd level heading for your entry (thats the one with two ='s each side)
Link to the picture (either direct or upload and post direct).
Tell us about your picture, and which logo you see it replacing. Don't forget to sign your entry.
I'd ask those who have submitted logos in previous pages to do so again here, just so you can have your comments. If I don't see an entry from those I'm aware of in a few days, I'll try to get your entry up.
Voting - please read this BEFORE voting opens to ensure your vote counts
Voting is not yet open, but if you intend to vote, please make sure you are a registered Wikia/Nukapedia editor and have made at least an edit somewhere on this wiki before the polls open. This will help us to determine that your vote is a legitimate one. I intend to open voting on 20 Jan, unless otherwise suggested/over-rulled... Agent c 00:30, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Process Comments Section
Yessie, Mr YouTube, if you don't like the temporary titles I've used to describe your entry, you're welcome to change them. Agent c 14:37, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
I dunno where else to put this, but as a general rule of thumb, the primary wiki-wordmark should be 250x65 pixels, or be able to scale to that size. If it doesn't fit this it screws with the formatting of the pages overall and generally looks terrible. I'm just putting this up because I'm seeing a lot of decent but improperly-sized wordmarks here. Йура 23:51, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
Nukapedia "Bottle Logo" Entry
Here is my logo. Just credit it to Yes-Man if you use it. I honestly don't think it's that good, but Scar thought I should submit it.
(Entry in new NukaPedia Logo category)
EDIT - For competition's sake, I thought I'd upload a better quality one. 114.77.77.5 02:07, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I think I liked it better without "The Fallout wiki" bit in there, it seems a bit cluttered now. Agent c 02:10, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hm. I could leave it as just Nukapedia, but then it doesn't have "Fallout wiki" in the title. I suppose it doesn't matter much anyway considering people know what wiki they're on. 114.77.77.5 02:12, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Maybe under the bottle spanning its length? Agent c 02:14, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Here's one without the Fallout Wiki title. I'll do another with the title spanning the length of the word "Nukapedia". 114.77.77.5 02:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Okely dokely, I've done it.
I think three variations of the one logo is enough for me :P 114.77.77.5 02:31, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Nukepedia "California Bear Flag" Entry
Here is my entry: http://cutlock.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-logo-for-nukapedia.html not a very large image right now, I'll make it larger though. Now, why should this one be chosen? That is a good, good question, the answer is simple, very simple indeed. Unlike other ones which show good design, they don't stay true to Fallout. Its the same thing, why have a show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer when you show Nikita instead. Why have a coca cola bottle as the logo, no offense, when you could have something that actually shows what Fallout is about. The one at the below the red one with bullet holes, while great artistic work, I do not believe shows what this wiki is about at first glance, does not show that it is fallout.
Though, keep this in mind, why have one logo when you can multiple ones. Why just use my one, when for alternating months, you can use other ones. Why use my one or the other ones for the favicon, when you can use something else entirely. Also the wiki's background should be changed, as all designs are leading for a more RED approach.
Vote for the Knights, vote for Youtube.
Cut the locks, but do not be cut down.
--Mr. Youtube 03:34, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
(Entry in new NukaPedia Logo category)
In my personal opinion, this is extremely shoddy work. No promises that the NCR will be a recurring element either, so we should stick with a logo that the can referenced to every Fallout game up to date. Skål! 19:35, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Without adding any comments on the quality of this editor's work, I also feel that the logo should be directly related to something Nuka-colaish. That's the name we chose, like it or not, so that's the motif we need to go with. In for a penny, in for a pound.The Gunny 19:43, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I Disagree here, I think we can have a "Nuka" logo that isn't NukaCola related - We could just have something related to Nukes, or something generic that doesnt invoke any particular in game symbolism. Agent c 20:16, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Tuche. Point taken. I will rephrase: I don't feel something as specific as an NCR logo or CL logo is as germane as something Nuka-cola or Nukeythatgoesboom would be.--The Gunny 20:30, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
The majority of the time, successful logos are the simplest and most easily recognisable. Think about Coca Cola, McDonalds, Apple or Google (among others). The logos do not have too much imagery. The issue with this one is that there is too much going on - you have an NCR bear, a sword, a red banner, and then the words. Maybe if it were simplified it would be a lot better. Also, I'm not sure if we're allowed to use the NCR logo for our site due to copyright breach. I'd have to ask Agent c. 114.77.77.5 02:57, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Shut UP ANon! KIDDING! I want everybodies opinions, thank you actually Anon, thank you Agent C, why do you think that I am putting up more and more logos. So we have more of a choice, thank you Gunny, I will make a bottlecap and a coke logo as well. Cheers - Mr. Youtube 03:49, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Good Point Phantom. I'm not a lawyer (I'd like to be though!) so I'll refrain from answering questions on Copyright/trademark breaches directly. However I'll shoot a message to Gstaff on the Bethesda forums when I get home and see if there's any guidance I can get from them. Agent c 20:26, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
I asked Matt to check with Pete (or whomever he checked with) about using words related to their copyrights and he said there would be no problem, but I didn't ask about graphics/icons. I imagine that may be a different situation. The Gunny 21:18, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
I've had a response from Gstaff, he doesnt see it as being an issue, but is happy for us to run the finalist by him. Agent c 05:06, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
In case you're wondering, your logo looks smaller in the news article because of all the white space around it.... I limited all images to 200px on that article so they all look nice... If you could crop that, I can change the news piece so its more prominent. Agent c 00:33, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Nukapedia "Arizona Bull Flag" Entry
The more the merrier. I mean, if we're looking for a logo, look for all possible options. And who better to make all possible options but I?
Same link as the last one. --Mr. Youtube 04:05, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
The Wasteland Entry
Four by me, why? Because I care, I want to make sure that this wiki gets the attention that it deserves. A new logo, a new background all in all a new mainframe. More info on that when the next logo to pick comes form yours truly. --Mr. Youtube 04:15, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Carinth's Wasteland Logo
(Entry into Nukapedia Logo)
I chose my submission for a feel of not only the wasteland but the wastes of the cities too. What better caption then the major turning point in the games events. Many things revolve around this once great city but no more than here and if you look hard enough you can still see some of its beauty. Varying typefaces to reflect the different themes within the game and here at wiki.--Carinth 03:49, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
A variation of the original design using an edited screenshot and slight variations on type.
Vault Boy Entry
Ah great, now here's some simplicity. This one's nice, simple, tells you where your going. You don't necessarily need it as a logo, but maybe a picture up front like at the Forgotten Realms wiki something to signify where you are. Nevertheless, it would make a damn good logo, someplace. --Mr. Youtube 04:15, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
The Knight's Bottlecap
Ha, ha, ha, well, seems we are all veering this way, funny. --Mr. Youtube 04:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Fallout Pricetag Logo
This one was inspired by you Herr Doktor.
No, I am not a bot. --Mr. Youtube 04:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Got some problems with this... Is this a modified version of an actual coke product... If so, I think there are trademark issues. Slightly less of a problem is the top left corner, it betrays its european roots - 0,35L - in the states the Decimal indicator used is the period (.) not the comma; also they use classic imperial measurements, not metric Litres... Would have to be changed to Oz. Agent c 00:38, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Nukapedia "Bottle cap" logo
I didn't even realize there was a competition here until I got a message on my talk page. Just a quick mock-up. ▫ JohnnyMrNinjatalk 14:46, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
The other important thing to think about when creating a new logo is how easily recognizable it would be as a 16x16 favicon. The vault door was a good one in that respect. 14:47, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
(Nukapedia Logo Category)
Mushroom cloud
Not much of a logo, will probably be updating this soon but i came out with this. Not finished it fully but the final design should (if uploaded) look something like this. Not sure about the vault boy image though as it may be a copyright infringement.
This would be to replace the news logo
Also a new idea was to replace the vault boy image later on with the new updated vault logo. Of course that will need to wait for the release of a new site logo
Just a heads up, you may want to check out the spelling of your logo:P-- 06:10, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
This entry isn't for the main Nukapedia logo entry - its my proposed change for the wiki news digest logo. Whilst the Vault boy at the terminal is a great image, I imagine the vault will want to keep using it. Its based on the Smooth Talker logo, and the NBC radio network logos. (News Category) Agent c 21:25, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Rusty Red Metal - Nukapedia Logo (Main)
I threw this idea out before and if enough people like it (or have suggestions) I'd be happy to amend it (letters bigger/smaller/different font, more/less/different placement for rust blowouts, etc.). Although I really like the bottle and bottle cap ideas above. In my mind those could be favicons, and something more 'blown-out fallouty looking' like mine would be the main logo - but obviously I'm biased :).
On a side note: I think no matter which logo wins, even if it's just 'Nuke'-based (mushroom cloud, etc.), that we should think about altering the GREEN motif on this wiki. I assume it's alterable, as different wikis have different motifs to match the theme of the content. In this case, I think we should go RED. The rusty green metal repeating-background I think should be RED-hued. The buttons and header and footer divs should also be RED gradients. Or, at the very least, we should see what it looks like. In my opinion, it will not only better match the new logo, but will also better match the newest game in the series, New Vegas. As we all know, New Vegas has a strong red/amber motif in its logo and menu design. Thanks for reading! ---Person of Refinement 21:02, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
YES! If yours does win, we will have to amend, though I feel you as my main competitor. Great work coming from another participant. Cheers - Youtube. --Mr. Youtube 06:07, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
That is a very nicelooking logo, and I completely agree on the future colorpalette issue, even though I'm a bit sad losing this wonderful green/gray tone. But a red/gray (doesn't have to be red/amber in my eyes) would still be very fitting for a Fallout wiki and fit well with your logo design. If it really has to be changed more than a red/sandgrainy background might just do the trick. --BusinessMonkey 11:16, January 7, 2012 (EST)
I really like it, and think this is one to beat... But some sort of companion Favicon would be needed (perhaps one of the bottlecaps) Agent c 20:35, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Looking at this again, I still like it very much, but the colours look a bit too weak. (I know the Wasteland would clearly do that to all sorts of logos, but some 'lively' colours can look more appealing, than something more realistic.) Seeing the below entry, I'm very anxious about the final entries to somehow needing to share the same colour palette and intensity. Can't have one logo with a weak red and another with a much more fuller red on another part of the site, so maybe when we finally decide, we should 'conform' our final logos more. BusinessMonkey 22:12, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
-- 01:04, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Doc Incognito's NukaPedia Bottlecap Logo
I hope this works, I'm a bit new to Wiki usage; I've been more of a viewer up to this point.
Hey, it worked! Sweet deal. Well, here's my little bottlecap, with plenty of rust for good measure. @Mr. YouTube: I like the idea about changing the motif as well, and whatever happens with this competition, I would love to help with the design and implementation of a new theme, if you guys will have me.
Oh, and this would be intended to replace the wiki's primary logo. Tell me what you guys think!
PS: I almost forgot, this is the thumbnail version. If anyone needs it, I have a full 1000*1000 version.
Edit: Also, the rust pattern that I used is credited to got3d.com
Very nice. If in the end this isn't chosen by the community as the main logo, I think it would at least make a perfect favicon. It's a little close to The Vault's cog-door, but there isn't a lot you can do with such a small icon anyways.The Gunny 19:05, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
This is quite nice, I like the ribbon effect in the middle, and it can even be seen as a homage to this place's origins. I'm wondering perhaps if we need a seperate Favicon category, as I think this would work well with the Nukapedia Rust-sign. Maybe we need to add to the next, or final stage for main icon entries a running partner for favicon? Agent c 20:20, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Hey guys, thanks for the comments. Do you think I should start putting together a favicon to accompany this? Doc Incognito 21:32, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I certainly don't think it would hurt.The Gunny 20:37, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Beat me to it Gunny. Agent c 20:46, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I like this (and the hidden omage to The Vault) very much. I'm just a bit worried how this can be implemented in a broader rectangular version (like the above main logo entry) where you can read the rather important (at least in my opinion) subtitle of Fallout Wiki with the Fallout logo'n'all. Otherwise a wonderful entry. It's more simplistic than the above entry, so I'm pretty undecided between the two. Maybe some more rust or shadows would do the trick (make it look more metallic), even though I fear it very easily could ruin the great 'immediacy' of the logo. Nonetheless I'm overwhelmed by the quality of some of these entries. BusinessMonkey 22:04, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Hello all, here are some favicons, in 16 x 16 pixels or less, or your money back.
Here we have the bottlecap and squiggle...
And here we have the bottlecap and "N" for NukaPedia.
@BusinessMonkey: That's a good point, the addition of "The Fallout Wiki" could be pretty important. I have a way of incorporating it that just might work, so I'll report back here with a draft. Doc Incognito 23:08, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm back with a banner image, but it didn't turn out as well as I imagined.
I tried to use gradients to make the new portion have the illusion of curvature, sort of like an old soda machine, but as you can see, that didn't work out. Anyone have some suggestions?
Well, if it were up to me, you'd be the winner right here. I think this is the best submission we've got yet. Good work. 114.77.77.5 23:33, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Damn, I think we have a new front runner. Having "the Fallout Wiki" staggered like that doesn't work for me, but the mix of fonts does, as does the colour.... Great work! Agent c 23:40, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well, we could ask him to put the words one above the other, and maybe a bit larger. I do like the favicons, though, and I'm sure we could implement those starting today if the community complies. 114.77.77.5 23:42, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
I was just editing my comment to say something like that. Just a suggestion, up to you DOc, but maybe "The" hard left, "Fallout" starting somewhere under the E, and "Wiki" starting just before where Fallout ends... Would allow each word to be a bit bigger - although I'd make Fallout a bit bigger than the others - give it the right emphasis. Agent c 23:44, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for all the feedback, guys! Is this better? Doc Incognito 00:05, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I personally think that there shouldn't be a vote, and that we should just use this one. But, I doubt Agent c would be happy with me for that. Anyway, both look great. I'll leave it up to Agent to decide. 114.77.77.5 00:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I love this one a lot and it definitely has my vote. I love the green scheme of our wiki though.-- 00:57, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm.... good point there, Ryan. Either we's have to change the background and colour scheme to reflect the logo, OR we get Doc Incognito to kindly change his logo so that maybe only the bottle cap is red and the rest is green. 114.77.77.5 01:00, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
We'd need to have a vote not to have a vote I think... *g* I think we should be fair to the others, and I've got an idea on a different track I want to see if I can make work...Agent c 00:59, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
If we did a red and green logo, it would make me think "Christmas" too much, you know? We'll see how it works out.-- 01:04, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I agree, red and green does say "Christmas" to me, so I would lean towards a red color scheme. As I stated above, in the event that you guys go with a red color scheme, I would be happy to develop further images that would be needed. Doc Incognito 01:07, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
In the event that it does change to red, let's make it a soft red. The 28 days later wiki hurts my eyes lol.-- 01:09, January 9, 2012 (UTC) http://28dayslater.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
I would suggest that we... erm... test run a new wiki colour scheme. It scares me to think of how people will react to a red Fallout wiki, but if it must be done it must be done. Of course, we run it by Clyde and the admins first. 114.77.77.5 01:13, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Personally, I like it right now. But a red colour scheme would be... abhorrent beautiful, in my opinion. -ΣΔLet's talk! 01:28, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I put a screenshot of the wiki into photoshop to see what a red wiki looks like.
I made all the buttons and banner red, added the logo and favicon, and made the green background a bit more brown. Personally, I don't like it red, but it's up to the community to decide. Also, the logo was a bit large so it would be stretched if we added it as-is. 114.77.77.5 01:47, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm that actually looks good 114, it would be strange to see this wiki have to take on the red colour theme instead of its common green but it would suit the logo more.The Nemesisx 01:55, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I'll tweak the banner to fit without stretching. One moment. Doc Incognito 02:08, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
There we go, that should fit (hopefully). Thanks, 114 (your image proved a helpful guide). Doc Incognito 02:33, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
No worries. I'll put the revised logo into photoshop and show you how it looks :) 114.77.77.5 02:35, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
What do you guys think? Personally, I think it looks perfect. Good work, Doc! 114.77.77.5 02:42, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Wow, that worked better than I could have hoped! Thanks 114!
Doc Incognito 02:49, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I really love your design, Doc.
My 3 cents (just my colorful opinions):
I think Nukapedia should be on one line. The name is Nukapedia. 'Pedia' isn't a distinct thing and I don't think it should get distinctive treatment.
I'm not a fan of 'The Fallout Wiki' being written in different fonts. When multiple-word concepts have multiple fonts I feel like it loses a lot of power - and starts looking like a newsletter that the suburban mom office manager sent out.
Most important, I think the words should be as big as possible in the 250x65px format. Giving away space to the background design just makes it less commanding.
I love the idea, though - it inspires me to tweak mine around a little. ---Person of Refinement 03:04, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Oh goodness I didn't even get the Vault-homage in the vault-door-turned-bottle-cap. This just got even better. Also: I see it has a concrete/mortar texture - do you have a more metal-like one to match the material used in a bottle cap/Nuka Cola vending machine/vault door? ---Person of Refinement 03:19, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Oh my god you sly dog you! You even subtly used that same rust blowout I was using. Ha! Fuckin hats off, man. ---Person of Refinement 03:22, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
I've found a lovely metal texture on Deviantart -
http://freestock.deviantart.com/art/Brushed-metal-texture-80120537
All it requires is for Doc Incognito to request usage of it for this site, and then to add some sort of credit linking back to the user. It can't be that hard, can it? 114.77.77.5 03:26, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the link, 114. I will work on adding this tomorrow, as it is regrettably time for me to be going. Doc Incognito 03:35, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
A number of responses
At having Nuka and Pedia be together: I'm kind of opposed to this; I modeled this cap off of a Nuka Cola cap, which has the squiggle in the middle, the word "Nuka" above, and "Cola" below.
At different fonts: if there's some consensus, I could either make the Fallout logo be the cursive font, or if anyone knows what font the Fallout logo is in, I could do the reverse. Thoughts?
I agree, sizing the words up makes sense, though the staggering may look somewhat different. Once the font question is answered, I'll make those changes.
At the Vault homage: Actually, that was kind of accidental :/. My first thought was, "Hey, I'll make a bottlecap!". My second was, "Hey, that kind of reminds me of The Vault door!"
At the texture: It is a metal texture :(. I suppose the resizing distorted it a bit.
At the rust blowout: that's funny, I didn't realize that until you pointed it out. I knew I needed a metallic texture, and after digging through my computer, I managed to find the Resources folder for an old project with the rust texture.
I gotta admit to liking this also. One thing I was thinking about was the background. You can load custom graphics to use as the background. Any chance you could play around with the nuka cola machines' look and maybe put a glass door with ice cold sodas for the right side background and then maybe like a coin slot and other widgets on the left side background? Kinda like making the entire background that borders the page look like a nuka cola vending machine?The Gunny 04:53, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Ooo, that sounds like a fun one. I'll work on that over the next few days, and update you guys wih my progress here. Doc Incognito 12:21, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
Here's the first bit of the vending machine idea. I'm modeling it off the Nuka Cola vending machines, and that bit to the right is where the sodas will be displayed. It's going to take some playing with bevels, gradients, and shadows to get the feeling of depth right. I'll check back tomorrow with progress. Doc Incognito 03:04, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
Looks good. I assume this will be displayed on the left side of the page, correct? Which would mean the right side would feature a coin slot and whatnot. I look forward to seeing it complete, and hopefully the administrators are fine with implementing it (which I'm sure they would be). 114.77.77.5 03:09, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for reminding me. I decided to start the background as one continuous piece, but once it's done, I'll split it down the middle. The coin slots will go mid-right, as pictured here: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nuka-Cola_vending_machine
Doc Incognito 04:11, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
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Time for me to jump in I believe. I think the current bottle cap logo from Doc Incognito looks the best from what I’ve seen so far. It’s too much red (area around FALLOUT WIKI) though in my opinion, what’s too distracting. That’s also the reason why I don’t agree with the Nuka-Cola machine background. That’s making the wiki even have a kind of agressive look and will hurt the eye. The rusted light green we now have was chosen for various good reasons, easy on the eye and let’s you focus on the pages and its content. Also, the current background is the same as on the [www.bethsoft.com official Bethesda] site. I’ve uploaded a suggestion, with just the bottle cap (I like we still have a round logo, similar to the previous one, still a completely different item). We need to keep it as simple and clear as we can, so the only thing left is the bottle cap. If you want to play around with it, I’d say use the Bethesda site colors, they go best with things related to Fallout. Maybe still something could be done with fading out coloring. I want to hold on the the original FALLOUT WIKI name, so I left that in place. Jspoel 21:21, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
Jspoel's suggestion
Hey there Jspoel. You raise some good points.
In response to too much red space around "The Fallout Wiki": what do people think of making the background white instead? Or would that still be too much negative space?
In response to too much red in general: this could also be a problem. Perhaps I could mute the color, in order to make the designs more agreeable? What does everyone think?
71.225.62.38 23:14, January 10, 2012 (UTC) (Doc Incognito)
You know that I've liked everything you've posted so far. To me, I doubt anyone will be able to provide as much help as you have in the past week. Of course, we have to respect the admin's decisions, as with the rest of the community. But whatever you come up with, I'll be happy with. 114.77.77.5 23:27, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
You mean replacing the rusted light green color at both sides with white? The white would fill way too much of the page. You can give it a try with muting/fading the red color though. Jspoel 23:28, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
When I suggested looking at using styling cues from the Nuka-cola machines to change the look of the side spaces, I was thinking a very light, washed out tone. I also agree that too much bright red/bright anything would take away from the white background make it very hard on the eyes, but a very light, almost transparent graphic showing the bottles in the door and the coin slot/mechanism might look ok and tie in the Nuka theme while adding a little personality to the page presentation. I personally think all of the reds should be pretty washed out/faded. Like a Nuka-cola machine left outside for 100-200 years after the apocalypse. Also, I think it would be cool as hell if when you loaded the main page a real short sound file playing the geiger counter clicking (ala Nuka-break) played, but that's just me The Gunny 23:41, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
@114: Heh, thanks!
@Jspoel: I meant replacing the red with white where the banner graphic says, "The Fallout Wiki". I also realized another possible solution to filling up that blank region: the only reason that there's so much negative space is because I can't scale up the Fallout logo very much without it pixelating. However, if I were to replace the Fallout logo with the script that says "NukaPedia", I could fill most of that empty red. What do you guys think?
@Gunny: That makes a lot of sense. I'll tone down the reds going forward, as well as for final submissions of these graphics. Question for all: should the bottlecap in the banner be an exception to this rule, and be brighter red than the other graphics?
Thanks again for all your comments and support. 71.225.62.38 00:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC) (Doc Incognito)
Sorry to be a pest, is there any chance we could see the logo on the page again, with "The Fallout Wiki" styling from the all-red, but with the red around those words removed? Agent c 03:33, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
Don't worry, it's not a bother. I'll be back with that in a moment; first, here's the beginning of work on the Nuka-Cola bottle that will go inside the vending machine: Doc Incognito 04:09, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, me again. I've two versions of the banner. The first retains the negative space that surrounded the cap in the original, while the first does not. Tell me what you think. Doc Incognito 04:26, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
I'm half tempted to make a Wiki that we can use to test out all these backgrounds/logos. That way, we can see how they look, maybe make a news post directing users there, and ask them how they feel. I'd hate for all your work to go to waste. 114.77.77.5 02:03, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea to me. After all, this is the community's decision; why not gather wider feedback?
Cool. It's settled then. If you complete the backgrounds, I'll start up a test wiki and ask Agent c and Kingclyde to ask the community how they feel. 114.77.77.5 02:55, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
Gotcha. Given my current trajectory, I would guess that I can finish the background in seven days' time, at the very soonest. I anticipate that I'll have some time this weekend to plow through the background.
A note about the bottle: I don't think my original Photoshop approach is going to work, because I don't know how to create the illusion of roundness that the bottle would need. Instead, I'm switching to 3DSMax to work out a 3D model. It may take longer than a Photoshop would, but I think it will work better. I'll update you guys soon with progress.
Doc Incognito 02:57, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
Well, here's the beginning of the bottle. Don't mind the darker grey areas in this render; that's where the individual shapes intersect, and I'll be removing those intersections tomorrow. I also created a red platform behind it, for kicks.
Hey guys. I don't have anything tonight, but now that the weekend is coming, I hope to have enough time to plow through the bottle 3D model, its texture, and the rest of the Nuka-Cola vending machine background. I'll stop in tomorrow with progress.
Looking forward to it. Judging by the public opinion as stated on today's Wiki digest, it would appear yours is the most popular, especially because of its similarity to the original logo. 114.77.77.5 03:59, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Awesome! Doc Incognito 05:07, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Hey all, the Nuka-Cola bottle is done! I had an idea or two on how to add depth to my original Photoshop version, and I think it doesn't look quite as depth-less as I feared it would. As always, all constructive critiques and recommendations are welcome; enjoy the soda (vague pun intended)!
Doc Incognito 04:40, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and I have a question for Agent c: when and where will final submissions be submitted? I want to be sure that I have everything made and tweaked in time, and that all of my submissions are in the same place when the time comes to vote. Doc Incognito 04:47, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
If I know anything about 3D model making software (which I should, but I probably don't), you might need to change the direction of the lighting. If the light were coming from in front or behind the bottle, it might give it more depth. But I'll leave it up to you. 04:51, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
I was planning on having a vote on this page, but thats clearly not going to work anymore. There will be a seperate forum page. I'm thinking for round one (the multi-vote) that a representative logo will be picked for the vote. For round 2, an image of it on a mock page will be required. 212.69.51.63 04:59, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, Agent. Getting a feel for the anon lifestyle, I see. 114.77.77.5 05:01, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
Its nice, maybe a little too worn on the text so it might be a bit hard to read the text... the VB might also be indistinguishable when shrunk to the required size.... But very nice. Agent c 05:44, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
I like it, except for the red background. If the contrast between lime green and dark red wasn't as harsh, it would be great. 114.77.77.5 05:03, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
Metalfrenchtoast's RobCo Terminal Logo
I'd really like to see a monochrome amber or green screen sort of style logo. Hell, maybe I'll do it myself! 16:05, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Well, here it is. Done with MS Paint. I think it needs dirt. Am I obsessed with green tube monitors? Maybe... 19:01, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Rusty dirty. I think this will be my official submission to the vote for the main logo. Meh? 02:18, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
Here's the favicon. 19:36, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
I think with the rest of the image being so big, when its put into the space required Nukapedia is going to look very small.. But I think there's some good ideas here. Agent c 05:07, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
It reminds me of the interface of the old games. 114.77.77.5 05:05, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
23:51, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
Here is my entry: http://cutlock.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-logo-for-nukapedia.html not a very large image right now, I'll make it larger though. Now, why should this one be chosen? That is a good, good question, the answer is simple, very simple indeed. Unlike other ones which show good design, they don't stay true to Fallout. Its the same thing, why have a show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer when you show Nikita instead. Why have a coca cola bottle as the logo, no offense, when you could have something that actually shows what Fallout is about. The one at the below the red one with bullet holes, while great artistic work, I do not believe shows what this wiki is about at first glance, does not show that it is fallout.
21:18, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
The more the merrier. I mean, if we're looking for a logo, look for all possible options. And who better to make all possible options but I?
01:04, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
The Nemesisx 01:55, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
21:21, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
==Sirota554's NukaPedia Bottlecap Logo ==
16:05, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
