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AshRandom (Talk) 09:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Klamath

Klamath is named for its old name of Klamath Falls, which in turn is named for the river. The proof is here; Wikipedia gives Klamath Falls as being in Oregon. Agent c (talk) 01:24, February 13, 2014 (UTC) (via Chatbot)

Then, according to this map, Klamath Falls must be located in Siskiyou County, California in the Fallout-Universe beause, the FO2 map clearly does not show any part of southern Oregon. --Modgamers (talk) 01:33, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

The starting point of the game (Arroyo) is located in Oregon.  A Follower  Talk  01:35, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

The Starting Point of the Game, Arroyo, is located in Del Norte County, California. Otherwise, the coastlines would not make sense. --Modgamers (talk) 07:34, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Arroyo lies south of Crescent City, California and its Headland. And Cresent City lies 30 km south of the Californian-Oregon-border. --Modgamers (talk) 07:42, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

And when you compare that location, to the actual location of Klamath Falls, than the in-game Klamath must be located on the some vertical line as Redding... but it doesn't. --Modgamers (talk) 07:45, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Unless there is a place in California called Klamath Falls, we have to go with what the game calls things. Agent c (talk) 14:19, February 13, 2014 (UTC).

Bedide that piece of paper, we don't have any information that Klamath should be Klamath Falls. So it could be any piece of paper, magicly find its way south to a town which named it self Klamath. Despite that, it shoud be mentioned in the article that the in-game location and the real world location of Klamath Falls don't fit (as Necropolis Bakersfield/Barstow). Anyhow, this doesn't make Arroyo located in Oregon (and so the Oregon cannibals, are Californian), as Arroyo is by any geografical means located in northern California. Or do you have any prof that this particular piece of land should be Oregon (beside it's situated near a town that "should" be located in Oregon?) --Modgamers (talk) 17:39, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

The Piece of paper (a postcard or map, or type of common souvenir) contains a rendition which resembles the in game map of Klamath. The most plausible explanation is that a postcard, claiming to be from Klamath Falls, with an image that resembles the place known as "Klamath" is indeed proof of its prior name of "Klamath Falls". You can see on that image on the right hand side clearly the Buckner's store, the Dutton's store, the Golden Gecko, The Bathouse, the park they surround, and the other minor buildings from that area. The left hand side clearly resembles the Klamath Mall area. Agent c (talk) 14:19, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

In Northern California, is an area known as The Klamath basin. The town of Klamath is located in in this area. There is an actual town of Klamath in California as well. Though it is along the coast, slightly SW of where Arroyo is located. Klamath Falls is indeed in Oregon, but I'm thinking this was just an oversight by the creators of the game. It's also easy to think that the top of the map there is Oregon, because that little niche NW of Arroyo, looks very similar to the Columbia River Delta. I've compared maps of the Californian coastline though, and it would appear the continent just lost a small amount of land mass at that point. Coastlines do change over time, I would assume that this one is no different in that aspect. This would also place Modoc in Idaho most likely... Which could attribute to the fact that they are somewhat hillbillies. But very doubtful. Deadling (talk) 13:40, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

As Modoc should be a reference to Modoc County, i dont think so. But you are right, the small nice may be mistacen, but if you look closely to the coastlines, it infact had changed a bit, but that delta, or whatever it is, the area of Crescent City, California. This can be seen, as thou some small parts of the coastline has infact shanged, the general shape of the coast hasn't. Unfortunately I'm missing the vocabulary (I'm german) to describe it correctly ;). --Modgamers (talk) 13:56, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Well, as you can read below the topic has ended. --Modgamers (talk) 13:58, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Stop

You've discussed this before with other special rights holders, and your argument against Oregon and California has been refuted several times. And yet you are still strangely adding these incorrect edits.

Regardless, the decision is final. Please refrain from making any further edits of this nature, otherwise, an administrator will have to step in, as this is becoming fairly silly now.   OfficialLolGuy  Talk  Blog  13:19, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Can you please explain to me, what false geografic knowledge has to do with "official" descicions? I'm realy courious? The town Klamath, even when it should be the same as Klamath Falls, is not ant the same location as the real Klamath Falls is. And when even Chris Avellone sees that it's not there where it should be, when these both towns should be the same. And even if Klamth is the same as Klamath Falls, but is, for whatever reason moved south (as Necropolis Bakersfield/Barstowe moved west), than it does not change the geografical location of Arroyo. You presented ANY in-game prove that Arroyo should be located in Oregon, beside your... lets call it beloved bias, that you don't want to give up. Where as the game itself just show northern California and parts of Nevada, and even say so ingame (e.g. VCSTARK.MSG, line {312}). So please prof me, what exactly is incorrect. When you can prove me I will end that topic, without further comments. --Modgamers (talk) 13:47, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

The topic has ended.   OfficialLolGuy  Talk  Blog  13:50, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you see it as a bias, but when we have a picture labeled in game "Klamath Falls" that displays Klamath as rendered in game (albeit with its two main maps combined), we are therefore drawn to to the conclusion that the location is Klamath Falls. Agent c (talk) 14:32, February 14, 2014 (UTC)